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« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2004, 08:36:00 PM »
Spots you are dumber than a box of rocks.

Spots, tell it like it is, READ THE ENROLLMENT AGREEMENT. It spells everything out very clearly.

FYI, the parents don't sign the glossy brochures, they sign the enrollment agreement. They know what they are signing up for or more specifically, they know what they are signing up for in which their kids are not going to get.

The parents are not blind going in. You may have been blind to knowing what your granddaughter was being signed up for if you did not see the agreement before hand, but her mother knew full well what the program was about.
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« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2004, 08:37:00 PM »
So, are you not going to answer the questions or do I have the wrong anon?

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
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« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2004, 08:50:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-09 17:27:00, cayohueso wrote:

"Evidently you didn't READ my post.  My parents did not send me to that place 'sight unseen'.  They saw quite a bit of it.  What they were told and what they saw were LIES.



Could you please answer the questions I posed to you now?

People everywhere enjoy believing things that they know are not true. It spares them the ordeal of thinking for themselves and taking responsibility for what they know.
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No, I understood what you said.  I am simply saying that there is NO excuse for sending a child away to a program sight-unseen.  It is stupid.  As for parents that do visit these programs, it is not fool-proof but on-site visits (particularly those done without giving advance notice) is not a waste of time or money.  Parents just need to know what to look for (or not look for, as the case may be).  

Signed, Annonie

(FYI I am not the Anon you are asking for answers to your other questions)
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« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2004, 08:57:00 PM »
Well, thank you for at least signing!!  I can only hope you will continue to 'sign' your posts.

Yes, parents are ultimately responsible for where their kids end up, BUT the way these programs are designed and with how scared and vulnerable the parents are at that point in their lives, it's very easy for them to be misled.  The parents WANT to find an answer to what is happening and the programs are only to eager to provide one.  Very often the actual procedures and 'treatments' are NOT what was described and/or shown to them.

What a distressing contrast there is between the radiant intelligence of the child and the feeble mentality of the average adult.
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« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2004, 09:10:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-09 17:57:00, cayohueso wrote:

"Well, thank you for at least signing!!  I can only hope you will continue to 'sign' your posts.



Yes, parents are ultimately responsible for where their kids end up, BUT the way these programs are designed and with how scared and vulnerable the parents are at that point in their lives, it's very easy for them to be misled.  The parents WANT to find an answer to what is happening and the programs are only to eager to provide one.  Very often the actual procedures and 'treatments' are NOT what was described and/or shown to them.

What a distressing contrast there is between the radiant intelligence of the child and the feeble mentality of the average adult.
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Right! So educate the parents.  Tell them what to look and not look for.  I mean, shouldn't that at least be as big a priority as promoting the rights of parents to screw up?  

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« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2004, 09:18:00 PM »
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A major thrust of a lawsuit against WWASPS is that parents were defrauded, that they were told their children were going to get a quality education (Harvard and "Yail" have been used [anecdotally] as next-step colleges), their children would be able to receive quality therapy by licensed therapists (one Doc of questionable caliber, mostly not available, the rest a daily session of ripping new belly buttons by other children in the same boat), quality food prepared by left-over resort chefs (a Dundee parent posting just last week was specifically promised this benefit), quality time in off-site exotic locations (not available for a least a year, most likely a lot longer and offered next-to-never at that). The signing parents interested in this suit feel they were defrauded of their money, meant to be spent to enhance their childrens' lives. They feel abused, played for suckers. They are mad, hurt, feel foolish, and...big thing here...they and their children feel poorer for the experience that nobody had in mind in the first place.



What a spin on the definition of abuse.   :cry2:  :cry2: That is pitiful.  I feel for you and your cohorts.  You all sure have put a spin on this case.  Why would any parent considering placement in a WWASP program think you all have ever been telling the truth. Most of us know the story about the boy who cried wolf.  Do you? "


Anon, you raise some interesting questions. Why would the plaintiffs want to publicize reaching a potential settlement as highly controversial as this one sounds like it could be, if they don't have to?
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« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2004, 09:19:00 PM »
Damn, no WONDER people have a hard time talking to you guys.  Promoting the right of parents to screw up????  It looks like a few people tried to get this conversation into something productive and you have to come back with a snotty comment??????????
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« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2004, 09:36:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-09 18:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Damn, no WONDER people have a hard time talking to you guys.  Promoting the right of parents to screw up????  It looks like a few people tried to get this conversation into something productive and you have to come back with a snotty comment??????????"


Yes, I'm afraid so, because parents do screw up sometimes and pretending otherwise only adds to the myth that FATHER (or mother) KNOWS BEST when in reality, there is always the potential to be either misinformed or grossly mislead about the safety and well-being of their child while in the custody and care of ANY residential school or program.  

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« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2004, 09:41:00 PM »
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« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2004, 09:38:00 AM »
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"***I don't think it appropriate that President Bush would respond to a question asked directly of Clinton, such as why he lied in the White House, is quite the same as Clinton himself responding to a question asked of him. If I asked Clinton why he lied, I want his answer to the question not Bushs.***



Give us a break Carey. You make a lousy DA. Spots answered the question.





Would the anon who posted this PLEASE tell us if the OTHER anon is Carey???  See??  This is why it's important to AT LEAST SIGN YOUR POSTS.

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« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2004, 02:09:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-09 10:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"***I don't think it appropriate that President Bush would respond to a question asked directly of Clinton, such as why he lied in the White House, is quite the same as Clinton himself responding to a question asked of him. If I asked Clinton why he lied, I want his answer to the question not Bushs.***



Give us a break Carey. You make a lousy DA. Spots answered the questions.



 



Would the anon who posted this PLEASE tell us if the OTHER anon is Carey??? See?? This is why it's important to AT LEAST SIGN YOUR POSTS.


Cay, how would one Anon poster know who another Anon poster is?  Do you think the two Anons know one another?  Do you think they are talking off the record to one another about what they are posting?
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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2004, 02:30:00 PM »
I have no idea how they would know.  I just saw what was posted (Give us a break Carey) and asked.  That's all.  If it was just one anon guessing at who the other one was, OK, but the one anon seemed to KNOW that it was.  I was just asking.

And I asked another anon (or the same, who can tell) if they believed that abuse happened at WWASP facilities or not.  Haven't gotten an answer to that question either.

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« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2004, 02:48:00 PM »
Pure speculation, happens all the time, anons trying to out one another, mostly to deflect attention to or away from someone else's personal agenda.
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« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2004, 11:44:00 PM »
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Pure speculation, happens all the time, anons trying to out one another, mostly to deflect attention to or away from someone else's personal agenda.

It is my assessment that there seems to be quite a bit of intrigue on this forum. How curious. It almost seems like a spy film from the early 60's.  :silly:
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« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2004, 10:18:00 PM »
Dr. F***ard Asks:

Does anyone posting here ever get tired of the numerous anons and the confusion that ensues?

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Nah, it goes with the territory.  Everybody's got an agenda, whether it's to shoot holes in someone else's agenda or throw in their 2 cents to add to the confusion.  Either way, it's all in a day's work ...

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