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The Psychology of Totalism and Evolution vs. God
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2004, 07:01:00 PM »
I count myself lucky to have been educated by some very enlightened, open minded Christians. The school I attended from 6th through 10th grade was attached to a church that had split off from an Orthodoxed Presby/Calvanist church in Holland, Michigan. The pastor was a sweet guy, raising teenaged kids and all the deacons/teachers were raising toddlers and up.

Anyway, the way they taught Bible class was like a text book. They encouraged conjecture and critical reading. From that, I remember that even the Bible doesn't say that the Christian movement was started by Jesus. It was already well underway, like the Civil Rights movement in this country, just waiting for a leader or martyr to rally around.

I do think a man existed who fits that profile. I don't know what his mother named him or what anyone thought of him at the time. If you look at some of the accounts from the gospels, he weren't no damned saint! The New Testament describes him as a rabbal rouser, a disruptor or the status quo; more like a poverty born Usama Bin Laden than a Southern Baptist. The man hung out with hookers and criminals, for Christ's sake! And took it upon himself to tell a bunch of impoverished and desperate people to reject the legal authorities and religious establishment and, instead, to "anoint" themselves and just love eachother.

There's some fairly credible research that indicates that the magic ingredient to that anointing oil was none other than India Indicus or Cannabis (sweet cane) Sativa. I can easily imagine tripping one's brains out and seeing God if covered in oil strongly infused w/ Cannabis resin.

As to the nature and existance of God, I have a theory. It's only a theory. I'm not about to kill or die over it. It's just an idea. Seems to me that all of the traditions that describe what God is are describing the imutable laws of nature. Maybe the Wiccans and native people to these continents had it right all along.

It will be generally found that those who sneer habitually at human nature and affect to despise it, are among its worst and least pleasant examples

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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2004, 09:51:00 PM »
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There's some fairly credible research that indicates that the magic ingredient to that anointing oil was none other than India Indicus or Cannabis (sweet cane) Sativa. I can easily imagine tripping one's brains out and seeing God if covered in oil strongly infused w/ Cannabis resin.

TBPITW!  ::rainbow::
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2004, 02:37:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-08 18:51:00, Froderik13 wrote:

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There's some fairly credible research that indicates that the magic ingredient to that anointing oil was none other than India Indicus or Cannabis (sweet cane) Sativa. I can easily imagine tripping one's brains out and seeing God if covered in oil strongly infused w/ Cannabis resin.

TBPITW!  ::rainbow:: "


Don't you realize that pot is the gateway drug!?! :roll:  :roll:

I'd like to see a comparison study done as to how many people have died alcohol related deaths, i.e. psyrhossis, alcohol poisoning, drunk driving etc. and how many related to pot.  I've heard of a lot of people overdosing on alcohol, presriptions etc. but not ONE from pot.  Why are liquor and nicotine OK, but weed not???  I'll NEVER understand this.  Did we not learn anything from Prohibition days???  What do these people think gave rise to Al Capone??  Illegal booze.  Make it legal again, no bootlegging crime.  Make pot legal, no pot dealing crime.  I don't see people doing beer or cigarette deals on the streets.

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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2004, 02:44:00 PM »
For your answer Cayohuso, follow the money...
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« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2004, 02:45:00 PM »
It's illegal because  powerful economic interests in many different fields--medicine, alcohol, tobacco, textiles, petrochemicals, wood pulp, law enforcement, trial law, drug testing companies, insurance, and many others-- fear the potential financial harm that they might experience were cannabis legalized.  They have no real belief that using it recreationally is harmful, but they will perpetuate the myth that it is in order to maintain pot's illegal status.
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« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2004, 03:03:00 PM »
Exactly, RTP. You beat me to it and said it well. What I was going to say - my two cents:

Now it isn't just Al Capone that we're up against.
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« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2004, 03:08:00 PM »
Yeah, I know the REAL reason for not legalizing, $$$$$, I just can't believe they keep spitting out shit like "it's the gateway drug" as their reason.  Damn, by the way THEY talk you'd think "Reefer Madness" was a documentary.

It is criminal to steal a purse. It is daring to steal a fortune. It is a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases

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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2004, 03:10:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-09 12:08:00, cayohueso wrote:

"  Damn, by the way THEY talk you'd think "Reefer Madness" was a documentary.

It is criminal to steal a purse. It is daring to steal a fortune. It is a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases

--Schiller (1759-1805)


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Originally, it was.  Later the hipster set discovered it and showed it to hilarious effect.
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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2004, 03:12:00 PM »
I know, same thing with some of the ABC After School Specials.  Fucking hysterical!!

The fact is the fact, the program is evil, and every attempt to make
chicken salad out of chicken shit has resulted in a Chicken shit
sandwich, No pickle on the side could ever change that.

http://fornits.com/anonanon/video/bingo.ram' target='_new'>BINGO!

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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2004, 03:14:00 PM »
Remember "the Death of Ritchie"?  The one where the kid had the freakout room built in his closet?  Later his dad killed him but it was OK 'cause the kid was flippin' on dope.
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« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2004, 03:16:00 PM »
Nooooooo!!  OMG, I don't remember that one.  Shit, wonder who the propoganda machine behind THAT one was?  Scare the crap out of the parents...the big, bad Drug War is coming. :roll:   I remember one with Helen Hunt on some drug, jumping out a window.

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« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2004, 03:17:00 PM »
Reefer madness was more like a docudrama. It was propaganda put out by a rabid idiot named Harry Anslinger.

Check out this quote:

"If the hideous monster Frankenstein came face to face with the monster of marijuana he would drop dead of fright."

Harry J. Anslinger, US commissioner of narcotics, era 1930s
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« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2004, 03:18:00 PM »
Wasn't that originally a Seed propaganda film...hmmmm I wonder
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« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2004, 03:19:00 PM »
:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Sad thing is, it sounds close to some of the shit they STILL say.

The disrespect for the possession laws fosters a disrespect for laws and the system in general... On top of this is the distinct impression among the youth that some police may use the marihuana laws to arrest people they don't like for other reasons, whether it be their politics, their hair style or their ethnic background.
                                                                     
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/nc/ncmenu.htm' target='_new'>Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding

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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2004, 03:20:00 PM »
Hey, we arent THAT OLD.  THe seed propaganda film "the seed of Hope" was circa 1972, not 1932.


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