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« Reply #510 on: February 26, 2005, 11:25:00 PM »
I realize that. But I'm really not referring to the groups and what not. I'm just talking about how the kids acted period. A lot of kids blew up the stupidest, most inane situations for reasons I can't fathom.
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« Reply #511 on: February 27, 2005, 05:31:00 PM »
You seemed to have survived your stay at Whitmore with a very objective view of things. So, you could just incorporate the injustices that you had to be seeing, and accept it all and with such a ho-hum attitude?

Sounds like you might have been "mis-placed" at Whitmore to begin with to me.
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« Reply #512 on: February 27, 2005, 05:52:00 PM »
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 A lot of kids blew up the stupidest, most inane situations for reasons I can't fathom. "


A reaction to being locked up with a bunch of crazy people who are constantly professing their "love" for the kid while summarily humiliating and degrading them in front of their "loving new family".  Sounds like a typical reaction to an insane situation.

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« Reply #513 on: February 27, 2005, 07:16:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-04-01 11:10 ]
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« Reply #514 on: February 27, 2005, 08:02:00 PM »
i think the former polite student is justin
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« Reply #515 on: February 27, 2005, 08:14:00 PM »
Why would you think the "polite" student is Justin?

I'd think Justin would be calling a few people a few choice names myself, no spouting off a bunch of "middle of the road crap."
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« Reply #516 on: February 28, 2005, 10:18:00 AM »
Were any of you parents ever "invited" to join a parents chat site while you kids were at Whitmore?  I understand that this is a site where parents share information, pictures, and talk to each other to lend support and talk about how they feel about Whitmore and how their kids are doing.  Were you ever invited to join this site?  If you were ever a member what happened on this site--did you exchange email addresses, phone numbers? What was the purpose of this site?  We were never invited to join. What was the criteria to be "invited?" Wasn't just being a PARENT criteria enough?
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« Reply #517 on: February 28, 2005, 01:08:00 PM »
ok maybe i have gone about this all wrong. i am going to try to act in a more positive form. Yea i was there for anger issues major ones. and i have calmed down a lot. i dont even have half the anger that i had wen i went there. yes i lose my temper, who doesn't? yes i believe that there werent things that are right at the whitmore but yet there were things that weren't wrong and kids exagerate. and joyce i heard that your daughter wanted to stay but you took her by her hair and threw her out the door. the cops came and you lied to them. thats abuse, i don't see anyone investigating you about you abusing your daughter. and secondly why waste your time with the whitmore, no one was abused, no one died, no one went to the hospital for any injury caused by anyone there. leave it alone. a lot of parents are proud of their kids when they came back from the whitmore. mine are. and i put them through hell and back.leave them alone... for the sake of other parents who are trapped between losing their kid or sending them to the whitmore
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« Reply #518 on: February 28, 2005, 01:24:00 PM »
Whitmore Alumni,

I do not want to argue with you, because we parents like your postings.

But you need to read the topic: The Truth Will Prevail.

This is posted by ISAC which firmly states that Mark Sudweeks lied, and stated that he was reading from a police report, which did not exist at the time....stating that I pulled my daughter down the stairs at the Whitmore the night we picked her up to bring her home.

The police offier wrote the report on February 15,2005 about him escorting us to the Whitmore on Nov 25th---and he tells exactly what happened, and I ABSOLUTELY did not pull my daughter's hair.  Mark Sudweeks told a complete LIE.

I have not been investigated for abusing my daughter for ONE SIMPLE REASON:  I have not, and do no abuse her.

IF you are going to use my name on your postings, the you need to go back and read what has been written completely. Only the Sudweeks have accused me of child abusek, and they use kids at the Whitmore to post these accusations.

Whoever YOU are---you do not know me, and you have absolutely no right to be asking questions about allegations that I abuse my daughter.

Mark Sudweeks lied about me, and he has been proven to be a liar.

I am happy for you that you gained some positive results from your time at Whitmore.

But as an Alumni--you need to know that you should only post things about other people that you YOURSELF know to be facts.
Thank you,
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« Reply #519 on: February 28, 2005, 01:31:00 PM »
Whitmore Alumni,

You do not speak for our daughter.

You do not have the right, or knowledge, to decide what was or was not abuse directed at our daughter while she was enrolled at Whitmore Academy.

The authorities in Utah have been provided with statements, and are doing their investigation.
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« Reply #520 on: February 28, 2005, 01:34:00 PM »
We were never invited to join this Parent Chat Group while our daughter was enrolled at Whitmore.  Guess we weren't to be included in this "elite group."  Perhaps we didn't come across as being Sudweeks Supporters---think maybe we "questioned the program too much from the get-go."
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« Reply #521 on: February 28, 2005, 01:35:00 PM »
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 and joyce i heard that your daughter wanted to stay but you took her by her hair and threw her out the door. the cops came and you lied to them. thats abuse, i don't see anyone investigating you about you abusing your daughter.


You heard[/b] wrong.  But that's not surprising.  Go and read what Joyce posted about this.  Call the cops and ask them as I believe she's suggested (if you havn't Joyce, apologies).  

So we shouldn't believe what we hear but it's perfectly OK for you to do that?  Did you witness Joyce abusing her daughter??  Didn't think so.

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« Reply #522 on: February 28, 2005, 01:46:00 PM »
Sure, call the police officer:  Nephi Police Department--- Officer Wright.
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Or just read the posting:
The Truth Will Prevail

Shelby Earnhart from ISAC checked it out and posted clearly that Mark Sudweeks lied when he said I pulled my daughter by the hair.

The story changed "a bit here."Whitmore Alumni says I was pulled her hair as I pulled her out the door. I think Mark Sudweeks said I pulled her down the stairs by the hair. Guess it's just hard to keep the lies straight.
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« Reply #523 on: February 28, 2005, 01:52:00 PM »
Whitmore Alumni:

Just one other little fact that you need to have correct:

You said "the cops came and I lied to them."

Well, the cops did not come...we actually called the Nephi Police Department and asked for a police escort, and Officer Wright went with us to the Whitmore Academy at our request.

He was not called by anyone from the Whitmore to come there.

Joyce Harris
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« Reply #524 on: March 02, 2005, 01:02:00 PM »
so why are you defending yourself so much? covering something up?  
 
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