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« on: February 16, 2004, 05:02:00 AM »
no seriously DEA is pushing to make Oxycontins schedule II

February 14th, 2004
DEA takes aim at painkillers, including Vicodin
By THE WASHINGTON POST
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WASHINGTON ? The Drug Enforcement Administration, or DEA, is working to make one of the nation's most widely prescribed medications more difficult for patients to obtain as part of its stepped-up offensive against the diversion and abuse of prescription painkillers.
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Top DEA officials confirm that the agency is eager to change the official listing of the narcotic hydrocodone ? which was prescribed more than 100 million times last year ? to the highly restricted Schedule II category of the Controlled Substances Act. A painkiller and cough suppressant sold as Lortab, Vicodin and 200 generic brands, hydrocodone combined with other medications has long been available under the less stringent rules of Schedule III.
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The DEA effort is part of a broad campaign to address the problem of prescription drug abuse, which the agency says is growing quickly around the nation. But the initiative has repeatedly pitted the agency against doctors, pharmacists and pain sufferers, and it is doing so again with the hydrocodone proposal.
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Pain specialists and pharmacy representatives say that the new restrictions would be a burden on the millions of Americans who need the drug to treat serious pain from arthritis, AIDS, cancer and chronic injuries, and that many sufferers are likely to be prescribed other, less effective drugs as a result.
. If the change is made, millions of patients, doctors and pharmacists will be affected, some substantially. Patients, for instance, would have to visit their doctors more often for hydrocodone prescriptions, because they could not be refilled; doctors could no longer phone in prescriptions; and pharmacists would have to fill out significantly more paperwork and keep the drugs in a safe. Improper prescribing would carry potentially greater penalties.
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The DEA says the change is necessary because hydrocodone is being widely misused ? with a 48 percent increase in emergency room reports of hydrocodone abuse from 1998 to 2001. The drug, a semisynthetic chemical cousin of opium, produces a morphinelike euphoria if taken without a medical purpose but generally does not produce a similar "high" in patients with severe or chronic pain. Hydrocodone was one of several prescription painkillers that radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh acknowledged last year that he was addicted to.
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"Hydrocodone is one of the most abused drugs in the nation," said Christine Sannerud, deputy chief of the drug and chemical evaluation section of the DEA. "The agency thinks it would be wise to move it to Schedule II, because that would help a lot in terms of reducing abuse and trafficking."
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DEA officials would not say when they might begin the process of changing the schedule, but other federal officials said they understand that the DEA wants to act soon.
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Under the federal Controlled Substances Act of 1970, the DEA places all narcotic or mind-altering drugs into one of five "schedules," and the medications are more or less available based on the potential dangers they pose and benefits they provide. Morphine-based hydrocodone, when combined with aspirin, acetaminophen or other common analgesics, has been a Schedule III drug since the act went into effect.
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The DEA effort comes as the agency is already embroiled in a dispute with many pain specialists over the use ? and alleged overprescribing ? of another powerful painkiller, OxyContin. Scores of doctors have been arrested on felony charges of conspiracy, drug trafficking and even murder in connection with their prescribing.
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Although the agency says the prosecutions are needed to shut down "pill mills" and stop unscrupulous doctors, many pain specialists say that the agency has become overzealous and that some doctors are refusing to prescribe needed painkillers because they fear DEA investigation.
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"Rescheduling the drug will bring more hoops and barriers to getting access to the drugs, and it may prevent some minimal amount of abuse," said Richard Payne, president of the American Pain Society. "But my concern is that it will come at the cost of denying access to thousands of patients."
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Susan Winkler of the American Pharmacists Association said her organization is concerned that the "ripple effects" would be substantial and negative.
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"Our members and doctors would have increased liability if (hydrocodones) are rescheduled, and that will inevitably reduce prescribing," she said. "We urge the DEA to make sure their decision is based on science and will make the situation better, not worse."
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Reflecting the complexity of the issue, the Florida legislature tightened rules on hydrocodone in 2000. At the request of state enforcement officials, lawmakers made the same change that the DEA wants. But in 2001, after patients and health care providers protested loudly, Florida repealed it.
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The process of changing the classification of a controlled drug is cumbersome and time-consuming and involves a formal review by the Food and Drug Administration, a listing in the Federal Register and a public comment period. The DEA, however, has the final authority.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2004, 10:36:00 AM »
I think it would be great if it were moved to a schedule 2.  I was addicted to OxyContin for a long time, and now I have been clean for 3 years and I work in a residential program for adolescent substance abusers and I see a lot of Oxy abuse.  If it were less available, I think this issue could begin to be addressed.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2004, 09:51:00 PM »
Um, Oxycontin *is* schedule two.  DEA wants to make that sched 1, ie, illegal.

And let me ask you, did you ever use any other drugs prior to Oxycontin?  Maybe a little cocaine, some acid, some other prescription drugs, the odd marijuana, daily drinking... oh and yeah, it's the evil Oxycontin and the big bad drug companies that made me into an addict.

Please!  The only people that are prevented from getting drugs by the attempts to control Oxy are pain patients.  The addicts have other sources.  New doctors to scam, other dealers.  The pain patients suffer.  Did you know that more than half of chronic severe pain goes untreated bc docs are so afraid to prscribe effective doses and get sent to jail that they'd rather leave people to suffer?  more controls will only increase this.

Did you know that most oxy addicts were addicts long before they ever saw oxy--90% use cocaine as well, for one.  doesn't sound like they started as pain pts to me.

If you take Oxy as directed, the worse you'll get is physical dependence.  if you grind it up and shoot or snort it, whose choice is that? if you buy it on the street or get from a friend, again, why are you blaming big pharma? do we blame the car dealer for DWI's in cars they sell?

Who benefits when we drive both pain pts and scamming addicts off pharmaceuticals onto street drugs?  Only drug dealers and morticians, who will get to deal with the addicts who could have been saved from OD by knowing their dose, not getting adulterated drugs and not fearing getting medical attention if they did screw up.  Maintenance is a much better idea that prohibition.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2004, 10:58:00 PM »
Up until the early `80's, methamphetamine was a Sched III drug. Clinicians saw some instances of dependence and amphetamine psychosis in cases of extreme abuse. Mostly, it was the drug of choice for promising young medical and legal undergraduates cramming for finals and for cross-country truck drivers.

In the climate of insanity that was the Reagan "Just Say No" whitehouse, the legislature moved to address this minor problem by moving meth up to Sched II.

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2004, 03:16:00 AM »
No Oxy is not sched II yet...damn read the article if you are gonna post to it..
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2004, 06:35:00 PM »
If by Oxy, you mean Oxycontin, it is and has been since it was approved, schedule II.  Just google it.

If by Oxy, you mean OxyCODONE, it is and has always been schedule III.

They want to move the weaker Oxycodone that you get from the dentist into schedule II, because they failed at getting the stronger OxyCONTIN criminalized.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2004, 11:22:00 AM »
The whole thing that I find sad and truly scary is that glorified cops get to make medical decisions instead of the professionals whole spend their whole lives training to take care of me. Cops are not Doctors and should have never been listened to for medical decisions.

There is another issue here also. There have been quite a few recent studies saying that if you stomp on pain early and with an effective dose the healing process is shortened and the patient responds better to treatment as a whole.

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2004, 08:47:00 PM »
This is what will happen...All of the people abusing Oxys...will switch back to Heroin..

 Meanwhile the pain patients will get screwed.....

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