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New Skakel trial likely to call expert to testify about Elan

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Matt C. Hoffman:
Che you can go to  http://www.greenwichtime.com/  and look for any reference to the Shakel trial and you can follow the trial that is now going on.

There are books also  and the  trial transcripts from when Mike Skakel  in 2002 was convicted for the 1975 murder of a neighbor thru testimony of former Elan residents, when he was a resident in elan in the late 70's. the  transcripts of the trial can also be found online.

It will all start making sense Che, lol.

Che Gookin:
I DUNNNO.... so much to do here.. stop watching the First and only season of Firefly or delve into the belly of the beast......

 :suicide:

Troublemaker:

--- Quote ---Ofshe, who worked on an exposé about a similar facility that won a Pulitzer Prize, used the words "intimidation" and "humiliation" to describe the atmosphere at the Elan school.
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http://articles.courant.com/2013-04-22/ ... el-kennedy

Expert Witness Says Skakel's 'Shift' In Statements About Moxley Murder Came Amid Culture Of Intimidation

They beat him down with the shift in his story from having not done it to he couldn't remember. I disagree about the two confessions because they never happened. Coleman and Higgins are liars. The reward should negate what either of them said. Neither statement has been corroborated

This is the first newspaper article I've seen that uses the word intimidation. Forget the ring and the paddle, that was the worst part of Elan. They could do whatever they wanted and they did. Even beat Phil Williams to death and got away with it. I wonder how the kids in his house must have felt atferwards

Che Gookin:
So what are the chances the old conviction gets overturned?

psy:

--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---So what are the chances the old conviction gets overturned?
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I'm not all that familiar with the case, but based on what I know, i'd say it's unlikely.  Trying to convince your average Joe that he was somehow coerced into making a confession requires more than a short lecture by Richard Ofshe, as good as he is.  People just don't understand coercive persuasion and most don't want to understand.  Most want to believe free will is inviolable and anything that threatens that assumption is too dangerous to consider.  Most will see him as troubled, having been put in a place for troubled kids because of that, and having gotten what he deserved.  The concept that in order to graduate from many programs you not only have to confess to things, but also believe them is just too foreign.

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