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« on: July 03, 2004, 04:48:00 PM »
What *IS* 'tough love' supposed to be, and how does it work?

Also, why is the "break them down and build them up" mentality seen as beneficial? psychological destruction doesn't seem helpful. You'd think you should try to build self-love not self-loathing...
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2004, 05:10:00 PM »
Tough Love basically means that the parent takes full control and complete authority and forces the child to do something or act in a certain way because s/he (the parent) knows what's best for the child.

While there are certain situations in which making a person do something against their will may be beneficial to these people (for example, mentally ill people who pose a risk to others are who are incapable of understanding the severity of their condition), the TL ideology has gone too far and is implemented in situations which could have been solved in a different, less destructive way.

The way I see it, the "break them down and build them up" mentality comes from the military. But while this may be useful in a military environment, where men and women are taught to fight wars and kill, it has little use in real life. But since our country has a long history of mistaking military training for "character building programs", I don't think anyone is going to realize that anytime soon.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2004, 06:22:00 PM »
Tough Love: Abuse of a type particularly enjoyable to the abuser, in that it combines the pleasures of sadism with those of self-righteousness. Commonly employed and widely admired in 12-step groups.
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2004, 01:30:00 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2004, 01:17:00 AM »
Hey, what is an "Emotional Growth" school, and what were they really supposed to be?
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2004, 01:43:00 AM »
These programs are frowned upon by many National professional organizations. Their techniques are abusive and unorthodox.  As a result some children are worse off mentally and emotionally.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2004, 08:55:00 PM »
WHAT is it? WHAT is it supposed to do?

HOW?
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2004, 04:38:00 PM »
In 2000, 8th stepping ::rainbow::

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2004, 07:21:00 PM »
From the Industry

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... rowth.html
The highlight of the conference was a presentation by Houghton. She explained how the term emotional growth came from the CEDU schools as a description of part of the work they did with students in the 1980s. Based largely on the child growth and development model as explained by the author and psychiatrist Eric Erickson, she explained it as having some similarities with the extended families and one-room schoolhouse of yesteryear. Essentially, the emotional growth curriculum as developed by CEDU was designed to take the child back through all the normal developmental stages of childhood, to ensure that each child would have another chance to learn the lessons that might have been missed originally.

http://www.strugglingteens.com/Tiege/history.html
The term "emotional growth education" was created by Linda Houghton in the early 1980's to describe workshops and other specialty programs at the first CEDU School. This term was needed in order to help clearly define how the curriculum used child development principles and healthy stages of growth to create self-esteem and develop greater skills in communication, work ethic, self-awareness and academic study.

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews02.html
Emotional growth education in its purest form has been around for thirty years or more, with its roots in the original CEDU High School, founded in the 1970?s. It started as an alternative to the medical/clinical model that was effectively used with young people who needed to be inspired to make changes, but did not require medical or psychiatric treatment. Over time, the architects of emotional growth education incorporated recognized child development and family systems theory into their model, expanding upon the writings of Erikson, Piaget, Bowen, and others. The approach was extraordinarily successful for the right students. Other schools with an emotional growth curriculum began to open: Rocky Mountain Academy, Boulder Creek Academy, Cascade School, CEDU Middle School, Mount Bachelor Academy, and the King George School. For many years, emotional growth education was the only alternative schooling option for struggling young people ? regardless of whether it was appropriate for that child?s needs.

In the 1990?s, it looked for a while as if the pendulum would swing the other way entirely. As it became clear that many students had psychological needs that could not be met by a purely emotional growth approach, schools and programs with a clinical focus began to open. They called themselves ?therapeutic? schools and programs in order to differentiate themselves from the ?emotional growth? schools and programs. This clinically-based model was better suited to work with the students who needed psychiatric treatment in order to resolve their difficulties. Parents began to be confused. What was the difference? Did their child need emotional growth, or therapeutic treatment? How did you know? Some professionals began to advocate for one approach over the other, saying that one was ?right,? and the other ?wrong,? that one ?worked,? and the other did not.

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe02.html
Balmer presented a model that sees all youth intervention programs as having in common five elements (he referred to them as the five food groups of adolescent residential intervention). The difference between a Residential Treatment Center, for example, and an Emotional Growth School depends on the different emphases each places on the use of Psychiatry, Therapy, Structure (he used the term Milieu), Education, and Recreation. For example, a Residential Treatment Center will emphasize Psychiatry, Therapy and Therapeutic Structure in its program, with only minor elements of Recreation and Education. On the other hand, an Emotional Growth School is basically a mirror image of a RTC, in that the emphasis is on Structure, Education, and Recreation/activity, with only a minor role being played by Therapy and Psychiatry.

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe02.html
EMOTIONAL GROWTH VS. THERAPEUTIC

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe04.html
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