To Betty Sembler

[kaydeejaded]

I was going to say something nasty but my computer is running really slow so by the time the window opened up I had time to reflect upon it..... so............... everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Have a nice day!  :smokin:

Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic. The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom.
--Abridged quote-Benjamin Rush, M.D., a signer of the Declaration of Independence

[Anonymous]

 I'm the only one who has control over that. And I have to admit that I am powerless over this addiction that I have.

Well, there you have it.  The essence of all cults.  You have to admit a "higher power" into your life because, if you relapse (and you will,) you can acknowledge how weak you are. beat yourself up about it then call on this "higher power"  to help, and therefore abrogate all personal responsibility for your condition.  
The biggest assholes about smoking are former smokers. (I know, because I'm a former smoker).

I recently met an (allegedly) former cocaine addict.  When I told him I was representing a 20 yr old who'd been charged with trafficking Methamphetamine, he said,  "I hope he goes to jail and they throw away the key (even though the guy is in "treatment" for his addiction).  So what this member of NA is telling me is that he himself accepts NO responsibility for his own addiction but blames it on some "Pusher".  
It was Steppenwolf that coined the phrase, I believe, "Goddamm the Pusher Man"  Unfortunately,   this stereotype has been picked up on by the drug warriors.  But the majority of people who might experiment with drugs choose to do so.  Nobody forces them.  Some might become addicted.  some for a short time and then cease on their own.  But the least successful "treatment" of all for addiction is forced treatment of the AA, NA, twelve step kind.  Why?  because it does not distinguishe between abuse and use, because it is hypocritical, because it refutes personal responsibility in recognition of a "higher power", and because it  denies that the "addict" had any control in the first place. In other words, the addict is a victim of the pusher.  This is nonsense.  Rush Limbaugh needs to admit that he became addicted because he LIKED what the drugs did to him.  Many many people, including users of alcohol recognize early on that they can like the drug, they recognize the seductiveness, recognise the need to take personal control and moderate or eliminate its use.  Rush Limbaugh is so supremely hypocritical if he denies that he was aware of the drug's seductiveness early on.  He MUST have known, since he expounds so much on the subject.  
But he CHOSE to ignore the warning signs that he so eloquently criticizes others for ignoring.  
Education about drugs is necessary but not the sort of crap that exudes from the orifices of these inufferable, self-righteous pricks.

I'll be watching Rush to see whether he will continue his persecution of tose who fail to see the light as he sees it.

[Anonymous]

On 2003-11-18 14:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

" His truth about the war on drugs and the scumbags that deal it and the poloicies of the american president are right on!!  

What truth is that? That it's OK for white Republican men to snort a lot of coke and eat a lot of pills, but other people who do the same should be strung up? Or, worse, force fed Prozac? :roll:

[Anonymous]

Well Bette?

Looks like yur Rush boy was "Doctor shopping" for pills. Looks like he was going to many doctors fur his "pain" and having the same scripts written and not letting one know that the other was writing the same exact script. I think that is against the law BETTE.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/12/04/limbaugh.records/

Are ya gittin' yur Florida cronies in line to prosecute yur main cheerleader cheeseburger eatin boy Rush Limbo yet? We ARE watching you, please don't disappoint us by making us have to add ONE more thing onto the shit list of Semblerdom. Better do the right thing and prosecute him under the laws YOU created honey.

Bwwhahahahahahah!!!!!

Seems there are others that feel the same way we do Bette: http://www.journalstandard.com/articles ... tter01.txt

[Antigen]

"Unfortunately, because of Mr. Limbaugh's prominence and well-known political opinions, he is being subjected to an invasion of privacy no citizen of this republic should endure,"
--Limbaugh's lawyer, famed criminal defense attorney Roy Black

So then... what about the other million or more less well known people who suffer the same humiliation every damned year? Anybody think they're better off just quietly losing their children, homes and jobs and going to prison?  :roll:

Fucking open hypocrites! I hate these bastards!

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't.
-- Anonymous

[Anonymous]

Thanks Bette, I knew you'd see 'reason", nice to see you making Rush pratice what you preach. See ya in court honey  :rofl:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/23/limbaugh.hearing/

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WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (CNN) -- A Florida judge Tuesday ordered radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh's medical records released to prosecutors in connection with an investigation into his prescription drug purchases.

But Judge Jeffrey Winikoff ordered prosecutors to keep the conservative commentator's records under wraps while they conduct their investigation.

The ruling came a day after an attorney for Limbaugh charged that the conservative talk show host was being blackmailed by the Florida couple whose allegations triggered an ongoing investigation into his purchases of painkillers.

Limbaugh in October admitted being addicted to prescription painkillers and spent five weeks in a drug-rehabilitation clinic after his former housekeeper disclosed his habit to a supermarket tabloid.

Prosecutors are investigating whether Limbaugh obtained and used prescription painkillers illegally and want the records opened. Limbaugh has insisted he has done nothing illegal, and no charges have yet been filed against Limbaugh.

"The state has clearly demonstrated the relevance or nexus between seizing Mr. Limbaugh's medical records and this ongoing criminal investigation," Winikoff said in his Tuesday ruling.

According to court documents, the investigation centers on whether Limbaugh engaged in "doctor shopping" -- getting multiple prescriptions from several doctors that he could not have received from just one. Such an offense is a felony under Florida law.

Investigators say Limbaugh obtained about 2,000 pills during five months, sometimes getting multiple prescriptions less than a month apart, according to court documents.

Earlier this month, prosecutors executed search warrants to seize Limbaugh's medical records from two doctors. Under Florida law, a judge must give his approval before prosecutors can review those records.

At a hearing Monday afternoon, Limbaugh's attorneys argued that authorities should not be given access to the records, saying prosecutors could have used "less intrusive means" to obtain information for their investigation, such as issuing subpoenas to doctors for records and information.

But prosecutors argued that the records are relevant and necessary to an ongoing investigation into how Limbaugh obtained painkillers. Assistant State Attorney James Martz said prosecutors feared records could be altered if authorities subpoenaed them, rather than seizing them

Limbaugh attorney alleges blackmail
During a Monday hearing on access to Limbaugh's medical records, attorney Roy Black said Limbaugh paid "extreme amounts of money" to Wilma Cline, his former housekeeper, and her husband, first for pills and then for extortion. Black alleged that the Clines had threatened to go public with information about Limbaugh's drug use unless they received $4 million.

Black said Limbaugh wanted to contact the FBI, but was told by an unidentified friend that if he went to the authorities, they would target him, and his political enemies would use the information against him.

"That's exactly what happened," said Black, who also alleged that Cline's husband was a convicted drug trafficker.

Sources have told CNN that the investigation into Limbaugh's drug use began in February when Cline, who once worked as a housekeeper at his home in West Palm Beach, went to authorities.

The Clines later went public with their charges in the National Enquirer, alleging that Limbaugh's representative had paid them hush money. Sources said the couple was paid a six-figure sum for their story.

CNN Producer Allison Flexner contributed to this report.

[Anonymous]

There will come a day Betty when you are in prison.  

Merry Xmas from all the children you abused..............

God is on our side you sick example of a human being...........

SO LET IT BE WRITTEN SO LET IT BE DONE!

[Froderik]

His truth about the war on drugs and the scumbags that deal it

If by "the scumbags" you mean the CIA, then I agree.  :scared:  :lol:

[samurai]

When delivering something like an important letter or other written materials, grasp it firmly in your hand as you go and do not release it once, but hand it over directly to the recipient.

[Anonymous]

Gee Bette,

Is it true now that Rush is asking the prosecutors if they wanna.... 'make a deal'???

Isn't it funny that for some reason, the "Prosecutors decline Rush Limbaugh's plea offer"? I guess you have a lot of face to save, right honey?? There he goes - one of your mouth pieces over to the lions who enforced all the laws you inspired, was "Betty Sembler Day" really worth it now? We'll just let your Florida inspired laws take care of Rush and someday, the Feds will be questioning you and hubby as well. :smile:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/ne ... 779434.htm

Posted on Fri, Jan. 23, 2004  
 
Prosecutors decline Rush Limbaugh's plea offer
JILL BARTON
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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Prosecutors rejected a deal Rush Limbaugh's attorney suggested that would have seen the conservative radio commentator enter a drug intervention program rather than face charges for illegally obtaining prescription painkillers, records show.

Instead, Palm Beach County prosecutors wanted Limbaugh to plead guilty to the third-degree felony of "doctor shopping" - visiting several doctors to receive duplicate prescriptions of a controlled narcotic.

According to records of exchanges between prosecutors and Limbaugh's attorney, the prosecutors' offer included three years' probation, participation in a drug treatment program and random drug testing. Limbaugh has been under investigation for months, has not been arrested and no charges have been filed.

Limbaugh's attorney, Roy Black, dismissed the prosecutors' offer and pointed in his letters to a state policy against prosecuting addicts. Black said Palm Beach State Attorney Barry Krischer had told him prosecutors instead go after drug dealers and doctors who illegally prescribe medications.

Limbaugh's attorneys began discussing the case with prosecutors in early October - more than a week before Limbaugh stunned listeners by admitting he was addicted to prescription painkillers and would leave his show for five weeks to enter rehab.

The letters and court records were first obtained by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel through a public records request and disclosed in a story the newspaper published Friday.

In an attempt to head off charges, Black wrote prosecutors on Dec. 11 to suggest that his client enter a court-sponsored drug intervention program without a guilty plea.

"I believe this proposal would be in keeping with the public interest," Black wrote. "The public is better served by treating addicts as patients rather than criminals."

Prosecutor James Martz wrote back on Dec. 15 that an intervention program alone was not sufficient. He said prosecutors had enough evidence to support more than 10 felony charges.

Martz said a guilty plea would allow prosecutors to drop their efforts to unseal Limbaugh's medical records.

On. Dec. 22, Limbaugh's attorneys denied to reporters that he was seeking a deal. It was unclear Friday whether the prosecution offer is still on the table.

In a statement Friday, Black called the prosecutors' offer "ludicrous." He said he was asking "for the same treatment anyone else in this situation would receive" and said the state's response was "consistent with their double standard in this case."

"The facts are: Mr. Limbaugh went to these doctors to relieve chronic, intractable pain; there was no doctor shopping," Black said.

Black criticized the letters' release, saying it violates the Florida statutes, the rules of procedure and evidence, and Florida Bar Rules. In his Dec. 11 letter marked "confidential," Black listed Florida statutes that showed why it should not be released.

"Because the state has no case against Mr. Limbaugh they continually seek to discredit him in the media," Black said in Friday's statement.

But prosecutors said they consulted with public records experts from the Florida Attorney General's office and the Florida Bar because they were worried that releasing the letter could raise questions of professional responsibility.

But those experts said that Florida's public records law takes precedence, adding that there was an ethical and legal obligation to release the letter.

Prosecutors began their investigation of Limbaugh, 53, last year, after his former maid told them she was Limbaugh's longtime supplier of prescription painkillers.

The investigation is being held up while an appeals court decides whether investigators should have access to Limbaugh's medical records. Investigators seized them in November, but courts have ordered them sealed. Limbaugh's attorneys have argued that the seizure violated his privacy rights.

Limbaugh and his attorneys argue that the investigation is politically motivated and that the medical records would only prove Limbaugh was prescribed painkillers for a serious medical condition, leading to his addiction.

Limbaugh has also repeatedly criticized the investigation during his nationwide radio show and has accused authorities of leaking information to damage his reputation. His show reaches some 600 markets and about 20 million listeners a week.

Palm Beach County State Attorney spokesman Mike Edmondson declined comment Friday.

Krischer, the state attorney, has repeatedly said prosecutors are protecting Limbaugh's rights and that he is presumed innocent.