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« Reply #225 on: October 29, 2005, 04:40:00 PM »
I absolutely agree that all the young people who were abused at Desisto should be compensated - they are in FLA now you should get a group of you together and get an attorney - the docs are still at the state.  Class action with loads of media is the way to go
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« Reply #226 on: November 26, 2005, 02:11:00 PM »
Hi all.  I was at Desisto for a short time in '98 (I think about the length of a dime).  I worked on Inappropriate and then made my exit.  I didn't really see any of the abuse that others have spoken about, but I also only lived in the intensive dorm in the mansion and not with the majority of the students and I was only there three months before I made my exit.  It wasn't "horrible" but it wasn't fun either (not that it was supposed to be!) and it just wasn't for me, though I wouldn't be surprised to hear that a lot of not so good stuff happened there that I never knew about.  I'm so sorry to hear that that place was so scarring and difficult for so many people, glad to hear it is no more if that's the case.

Anyway, I just wanted to ask a question...someone a while back mentioned "the Tara Rubens case".  What do you mean by this?  I knew Tara and her mom (if I am remembering her correctly) and our moms were very close because they were in the same parent group.  I just wanted to find out what happened with her.  If you can't post that on here, feel free to email me at mindutopia@hotmail.com.  Also looking to connect with anyone who may have been there during that time.  (Still waiting for approval to post on the MSM and MySpace boards).

Take care,
Karen
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« Reply #227 on: December 05, 2005, 01:53:00 AM »
What most of you dont relize is that even though we can all complain about the way the school was.  All that went there walked away with a deep knowledge of what life can offer and what can be lost.  I think we should Ackowledge the group of us that attended Desisto and are glad for it.  I was there from 1999-2002  I dd not graduate.  In fact i ran away.  I was afraid to face the one thing i had struggled with my entire life, myself.  To this day i do not regret my desicion but do wish that i could go back to finish what i started.  I walked away from desisto with amazing memories and even better friends.  If you would like to sit and bitch about the time spent and the Horror you endured,  Go ahead but i gaurruntee that if you were there,  Then it is you who you are most haunted by.
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« Reply #228 on: December 07, 2005, 03:53:00 PM »
I didn't read the bulk of this thread, but I'm going to reply, and then back track.  First of all I was doing a google on Michael's death and I came upon this page, and I'm glad because I have some unresolved shit that's sort of been popping up in me lately about my experiences there.

First of all I just want to say that I did meet some cool people there, and although I keep in touch with virtually no one, there are people I once knew that I truly loved and could perhaps rekindle a relationship with.  One of the people that I really miss is Lonnie, the dance director, who passed away a few years ago.  He was a genuine and beatiful person, and he expressed his individuality at DeSisto by questioning the shit that went on and not completely feeding into it like a lot of the mindless and impressionable staff who had so many issues that they may as well have been "new kids."  Michael never berated Lonnie, because I truly believe Lonnie had his number, so to speak, and Michael realized that he was one of the few that could not be molded by him, and to use a cliche "brainwashed."

Yes, brainwashed, the dreaded but applicable term ALWAYS called into play at some point in any discussion about DeSisto.  My experience was bizarre in the sense that it was like a rollercoaster ride.  When I first got there I was completely miserable and couldn't for the life of me comprehend why I was living in conditions comparable to the foster home I work in now, at $46,000 a year.  Although the official reasoning concerning the institutional living conditions would probably be something along the lines of "stripping down the surroundings so the children can focus on their issues primarily," I'm here to say I think it was about PROFIT.  And this leads me into one aspect of what I think was really going on up there in Stockbridge.  Michael was fleecing (spelling?) desperate parents.  Straight up and down, that's what it was.  

But I will get back to that in a subsequent post and stay with the original topic of my experience.  Anyway, a few months later I was recognized to have enough potential to move up a level... don't ask me what the next level was called because all that's coming to mind now is new kids, stewards, and farm.  But anyway we lived in the mansion.

The previous summer I had some very happy experiences in Dinner Theatre, which were basically where my fond rememberances began and ended.  I found myself to be doing things I never thought I could do.  This was good.  Although I had never before (or since) had anything to do with singing and dancing, and even then considered show tunes to be pretty gay, I was having the time of my life living and interacting with my housemates and feeling as though I was doing something right for a change. (a feeling so amazing to a previously depressed social outcast like myself.) But all this seemed to change.  Initially Michael seemed to covet and favor me, but soon after this summer of dinner theatre he became dismissive and critical of me, and not in a supportive way either.  That is when I realized that although there were positive aspects to this place, there was something weird going on.  Michael would play favorites with kids toward whom he seemed to treat disposably, and I started realizing that he had me in a position where I was "fiending" for his attention.  He was doing a push/pull, acceptance/rejection game that seemed to stimulate him greatly. A lot of other people seemed stuck in this too.  It was bizarre.  I mean in retrospect I recall things happening that would have thrown up a fucking neon red flag to anyone not conditioned to this insular little world he had established.  Yes, I'm talking about fucking 18 and 19 year old males in his bed cuddling, etc.  It was bizarre.  Anyone that went to Desisto knows that this stuff went down.  I remember one time, either in Lake George or in Florida, that we were standing outside a convenience store and he stuck his hand through the bottom of my shirt, brushing past my nipples and then out the top of my neck line.  I was like "what are you doing?" and he seemed so offended and treated me badly the rest of the time.  I'm so glad that even though I fell into a lot of Desisto bullshit, that I still had a strong enough mind to know this was wrong.  Had I been a previously molested kid, like a lot of others, maybe I wouldn't have.  That's just an example.  It happened again too, and i brought it up in a meeting, and he fucking cried and said he would never trust me.

The problem was, that, as I said, the behavior just described and other bizarre shit became so normalized (probably even for him) that it wasn't questioned.  His outbursts were unpredictable, his judgments and insults unrelenting, and everything was presented in the guise of aid, when really a lot of times the detractions were not countered with support.  On the farm? Oh man, people were put in rooms for days and denied food.  Yes they fucking were, and if you went there don't tell me it didn't go on.  Males and females were completely expected to supress their sexual urges (during adolescence no less) and if you acted them out there had to be a deeper motivation than being a horny teenager.  Almost everyone was made to feel that they had a problem that could only be remedied with the 12 steps, etc. etc. etc.

In short, that place was fucked.  In my opinion now, completely designed to stroke Michael's ego, fulfill his bizarre Jacko-esque fantasies, and make him money. I swear to god I came out of that place as a person I never was or wanted to be before or since, and I regret that I was too weak at that age to know who I really was.

Oh, and do I even have to mention the sham marriage to Margie... come on, if he wasn't gay then Jim Trainor is a professional boxer.  No, I'm not a homophobe, but is it crazy to suggest that an institution supposedly premised on honesty would have a headmaster who could openly acknowledge his own sexuality???

I'm going to organize my thoughts because this is one of the first times I've spoken for more than five minutes about Desisto since I was there.

Let's call this venting for now, and a little preliminary organization of my thoughts, there is so much coming back to me as we speak I would crash this site if I was to start discussing all of it.

Thanks for letting my spew people.
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« Reply #229 on: December 07, 2005, 04:02:00 PM »
Oh, and I don't really want to shout my name out on here, but I was there from 93 to 96 and was also in Inappropriate initially. And I'm a guy.  I'd be happy to talk to people who want to, let me know your e-mail or something.
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« Reply #230 on: December 07, 2005, 04:06:00 PM »
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I\'ll have the roast duck, with the mango salsa.\"

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« Reply #231 on: December 07, 2005, 04:26:00 PM »
Does anyone from the mid to late 90's remember the rule concerning all of a runaway's things going to GoodWill? It also later progressed to the person who was shifting them and negligent lost their shit too.  I remember having to shift and being so exhausted because I was gonna be waking up so early, but still being fucking terrified that I would lose all my shit if I fell out.  And remember that kid, John something, him and his father were clowns?  He lost all his shit.

That place was wrong on many levels.[ This Message was edited by: NorthEastBronx on 2005-12-07 19:56 ]
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« Reply #232 on: December 08, 2005, 02:37:00 PM »
Looking at this board it is Amazing to me that Desisto being as small a school as it was is getting so much negative attention. How bad was it really compared to other schools. I went there and I would have rather been in a juvinille detention center, or  even prison, but Im just wondering if it was really one of the worst out there.
Rot In Hell Michael Desisto.
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« Reply #233 on: December 09, 2005, 06:19:00 PM »
I was there in the same "ERA" if you will- and I so agree with you about the place- I spent alot of my stay there on the farm- or on no male- but I'm sure we knoe each other. I don't exactly want to scream my name here either- but I will check my e-mail spam folder for you if you want to drop a line. gansettgirls@aol.com
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« Reply #234 on: December 09, 2005, 06:20:00 PM »
John Hall lost his things- I did too- when I ran- I wasn't gone for the 24 hours- but I wouldn't do my turn- ins- sat in the corner on the farm for weeks and good will got a big donation.
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« Reply #235 on: December 10, 2005, 10:24:00 AM »
this school was abusive controling and a horrible place to live I was constontly abused neglected and tortured and was only there for a month before a sliced my wrist for the sole pourpous to get the hell out of there and if you think I am kidding just wait and see i will have justice you can say all the nice tyhings you want about this school but what kind of school force feeds a student liquid lithium untill he passes out and then wakes up tied to a bed on the "FARM" by improper restraints and why would such a good school have students do all the restraints i am comming clean with all of the horrible stuff you did to me and i will have justice look  out DiSisto here comes the truth from a student that lived it him self

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« Reply #236 on: December 10, 2005, 10:27:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-26 11:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hi all.  I was at Desisto for a short time in '98 (I think about the length of a dime).  I worked on Inappropriate and then made my exit.  I didn't really see any of the abuse that others have spoken about, but I also only lived in the intensive dorm in the mansion and not with the majority of the students and I was only there three months before I made my exit.  It wasn't "horrible" but it wasn't fun either (not that it was supposed to be!) and it just wasn't for me, though I wouldn't be surprised to hear that a lot of not so good stuff happened there that I never knew about.  I'm so sorry to hear that that place was so scarring and difficult for so many people, glad to hear it is no more if that's the case.



Anyway, I just wanted to ask a question...someone a while back mentioned "the Tara Rubens case".  What do you mean by this?  I knew Tara and her mom (if I am remembering her correctly) and our moms were very close because they were in the same parent group.  I just wanted to find out what happened with her.  If you can't post that on here, feel free to email me at mindutopia@hotmail.com.  Also looking to connect with anyone who may have been there during that time.  (Still waiting for approval to post on the MSM and MySpace boards).



Take care,

Karen"
Tara Rubin you mean? From New Jersey??
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« Reply #237 on: December 11, 2005, 10:58:00 AM »
"The school's procedures were on display again this past week when school employees Marcus Pritchett, 38, of Stockbridge and JoAnn McIntyre, 30, of Bear, Del., were on trial in Berkshire Superior Court for alleged misconduct regarding a former student who was hospitalized with a toxic level of lithium in her blood.

After a seven-day trial, a jury on Friday found Pritchett and McIntyre not guilty of abuse or neglect. They had been charged after they restricted fluids for former student Tara I. Rubin in September 1998 for disciplinary reasons, contributing to the toxic levels of lithium found in Rubin's blood.

In an interview at his residence in the school's main building yesterday, A. Michael DeSisto said he hoped the acquittal of Pritchett and McIntyre would end a series of allegations brought in recent years against the school he founded 22 years ago."
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« Reply #238 on: December 11, 2005, 12:09:00 PM »
Tara Rubin, tan skin, from Voorhees, NJ? Shes doing great now, just saw her last week, she's engaged to married in May.
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« Reply #239 on: December 14, 2005, 03:16:00 PM »
Wow, that's scary that happened with Tara.  Yes, I do know her.  Our moms were friends, but lost touch probably just before that happened since it seems like it was in September of 1998.  I can remember going for "clandestine" lunches with Tara's mom because she wanted feedback on what the school was really like after I left and if she should keep Tara there.  Too bad I couldn't convince her to pull her out before that happened. :sad:

That's great though that she seems to be doing so well now.  It's amazing to hear so many stories about people who went into Desisto and came out worse than when they went in, yet now have successful and meaningful lives despite all of that crap happening to them.  

Thanks for your help.  Glad to know she is okay.

Karen
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