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Summit Children's Residence & School, what is the story?
« on: May 28, 2007, 09:30:54 AM »
Does anyone have info or personal experience with Summit School in Nyack, NY? What is their motive? Why are they so evasive? so mediocre at best?
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Summit Children's Residence & School, what is the story?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2007, 03:34:12 PM »
What, pray tell, do you mean by motive???  Some places are established to provide certain services - here, educational and therapeutic services to teens with adjustment problems - and are fully licensed by the state do do what they do.  Perchance their motive is to do good things for teens with certain life problems???

And evasive???  How so?  Or did you just decide to call out of the blue sky and ask unfocused questions?  What did they evade?  - specifically!

Finally, what leads you to consider what they achieve to be mediocre?
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Re: Summit Children's Residence & School, what is the st
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2007, 02:41:51 PM »
Quote from: ""Act UP""
Does anyone have info or personal experience with Summit School in Nyack, NY? What is their motive? Why are they so evasive? so mediocre at best?


Summit School
339 North Broadway
Nyack, New York 10960
Phone Number: 845 358 7772

see also this thread for more info:
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=905
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Summit Children's Residence & School, what is the story?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2007, 04:44:16 AM »
Not too sure about what it's like, but it was up the road from where I went to Andrus (childrens' home). We were both on N Broadway., it's just that I was in Yonkers, not Nyack. Go north and cross the tappan zee bridge and continue up and there you are at Summit.

I'm a bit familiar with Pleasantville as well, (mentioned in the linked thread) since one of my friends from Andrus got sent there for a while because she went AWOL. It's what we used to call a "lock up". It was micromanagement to the nth. Locks on all doors, constant supervision, and they had things called quiet rooms where they would put kids when they "went off" (i.e. had a fit, threw a tantrum, etc.) Basically like a "time out" spot. At the time, it confused me why otherwise normal, high-functioning kids would start "going off" once they were placed in such a facility, especially since they never did that before. Some of us did it at Andrus, too, if we got too frustrated. But fortunately, we didn't have quiet rooms or locks on our doors. I remember touring one of those lock up places with my parents and I watched some screaming kid get dragged off to a quiet room, and it totally freaked all of us out. That's why we went with Andrus. (Little did I know that I would end up in a place far worse than any lock up or childrens' home a few years later.)

I could have sworn there was a place across the street from us called Summit, but maybe it was Sun-something instead. Like Sundown, sunset, sunridge... not sure. It's possible it was Summit, and they moved. All I know is, we were scared shitless of the kids across the way. We thought they were all thugs and super violent. Of course, I'm sure none of that is true, since I never even met anyone from over there. It was all based on stories and rumors.

Interesting, but there definitely seemed to be more than your usual amount of residential treatment centers, group homes, lock ups and childrens' homes in that area. The lock ups sucked, but the group homes were pretty sweet, if you could get into one. Even though we had quite a bit of freedom to fuck around and get into trouble at  Andrus, and the house mothers for the most part were pretty damn cool, most of us were aiming to get into a group home if we could.

I guess this doesn't really help with your summit specific question, but more addresses (vaguely) the kind of things going on in westchester and the surrounding counties when it comes to RTCs and the like. It kind of has its own vibe up there, as most of the places in that area were originally orphanages at the turn of the century, and later became RTCs or group homes for runaways and abused foster kids. I thought I would chime in since I spent 8th and 9th grade up there, and most of the time, a kid who was in one place knew a whole lot of mess about a bunch of other places in the county, since we might know someone in another center, or we toured a place, or spent some time there ourselves. I wish I could remember more, sorry.
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Summit could challenge themselves to be more than so-so
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2007, 07:12:11 PM »
Dear Curious Questioner,

By motive I mean, why is Summit Children’s Residence and School in this business if not by helping their students to develop the tools necessary to function, no less succeed in the world of adults? Why provide the minimum of services and begrudgingly at that? “Some places are established to provide certain services - here, educational and therapeutic services to teens with adjustment problems” so the fact that the kids all have 12 month IEPs but do not get services for 12 months why? No one has time to waste, certainly not the students. If you believe “their motive is to do good things for teens” you are either naïve or just being antagonistic. By the way, who are you, what brings you to this site, what is your experience?

I was not being unfocused in the manner in which I was reaching out, I was trying to just hear if anyone has personal experience with the school in Nyack. “What did they evade?” Specifically reality! What happens with the kids once they “graduate”, what happens when they have not learned coping strategies to effectively deal with issues of emotional disturbance? They are certainly not going to learn the skills to cope by being in therapy for two 30-minute sessions a week, and even that does not happen all the time.  The group therapy they say they offer and are mandated by the IEP to offer is a farce. And does not exist.

Summit could be on the cutting edge, they could be providing services to their students and their families that would make a difference, instead they are ‘just getting over’. I wish the goal of Summit School was more than just getting a high school diploma, I wish they really wanted to affect the lives of those they touch in a meaningful way.
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Re: Summit Children's Residence & School, what is the story?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 09:54:10 AM »
As a former employee there, I can confirm that this place does not have treatment as their first priority.  The social workers are a joke, they spend 5 minutes with the students in the their meetings and the students don't talk and they just say OK.  Don't get me wrong there are a few, and i mean a few, SW's there that truely care.  The others, not at all.  When a student is looking for them because they have an issue they avoid them because they don't want to be inconvenienced.  One SW leaves at 3PM right when the afterschool program begins and that's the start of most of the problems kids experience.  That's ridiculous.  

The students are left to run wild.  They smoke cigarettes, fight, do drugs, have sex, steal, destroy property and leave the grounds on routine.  They are given slaps on the wrists and the program tries to keep them in this cycle of failure so they stay in the program.  They are a bane on the surrounding community.  They are located across the street from an elementary school and they are allowed to gather to smoke directly across the street.  Would you want to be picking up your 8 year old from school and have to walk by a bunch of degenerate teens smoking and cursing everyday?  There are multiple health and ethical violations going on there.
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