So say I

[Anonymous]

Scott, are you saying I oversimplified your analysis in my summary?

[Anonymous]

Ginger, it appears to me that Frod, in his lust to stick it to Carey, etc..

Frod, looking back over some of these threads, it would appear that anon is Ginger talking to herself.  :lol:

[GregFL]

An intelligent and well thought out post.


Thank you Anon.

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[Anonymous]

Well, she does have much to say.  Maybe she can't say it all under just one of her many personalities.

[Anonymous]

People, Froderik13 has no fixation on Carey.  It's what she did and how she tried to avoid responsibility that seems to piss him off.  Doesn't anyone get that?  You people can be dense!  Carey and Sue, if they are profiting off of this industry are both seriously messed up individuals.

[Cayo Hueso]

yeah, I think most of us get that.  What I don't get is why all these anons are trying to keep whatever perceived feud there is between Frod and Ginger.  THEY seem to have come to an understanding.  I've disagreed with Frod pretty vehemently before, but I gotta give him credit.  He can state his point of view AND see someone else's.  If Frod and Ginger can agree to disagree, why the need to provoke more fighting?

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[Anonymous]

Cayo:

It's about an even playing field, and Ginger needs to be taken back a few pegs every once in a while because she often lets her emotion drive the outcome of these little battles, which should have been discussions, if this board were being moderated responsibly.

None of this invalidates your very astute point, which is noted.

[Cayo Hueso]

I appreciate the politeness.  

Even if that is true, which I don't believe, these "discussions" don't seem to be serving any purpose other than to trash someone who has already been trashed.  Your position on the Carey situation has been duly noted.  All of what you say MAY VERY WELL BE TRUE...I have no opinion one way or the other as I do not have enough info, BUT...all I have seen Ginger do is state that she thinks Carey made a mistake, but that Ginger doesn't believe Carey had evil intentions.  If you think Carey DID have evil intentions...fine...that may very well be true, but again I'll ask...if Ginger and Frod have resolved this and if THEY were the ones in the conflict in the first place...what useful purpose is there in trashing Ginger???  I don't think I have EVER seen an instance where Ginger has used her "power" as an administrator to slant the views of these boards.  It just seems that all this energy spent on trashing her could be better spent elsewhere.  There are REAL enemies out there to destroy.

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[Anonymous]

Cayo:

OK, but the "power" isn't necessarily caught-up in who owns the board (although that's part of it).  Ginger knows she is well liked by this board's contributors and when you have a following (there are Fornits groupies here-look at poor GregFl), you have an obligation not to make statements to people (that everyone can see) which are tantamount to and result in the same group abuse they were subjected to as survivors from these sick programs.  Ginger might try a private message, once in a while, and she may get better results.

Reasonable Anon

[Cayo Hueso]

So people who have friends here or a large following should censor what they post???  Is that what you're saying?

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[Anonymous]

No, they should be thoughtful and not turn their entire following on one person.

[Cayo Hueso]

OK, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.  I've seen A LOT of that go on here, but not by Ginger.  I never saw her ONCE "gather up the troops" or anything.  She has stated her opinion, if others agree with her that's THEIR choice, just as it is all the ANONs' choices to agree with YOUR point.

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[Anonymous]

Cayo:

My sentence should have read "thoughtful about their power..."

Let me also add that Deborah, for instance, always makes her point without casuing a riot to ensue against a single individual.  I respect Deboarh's style very much.  I don't like much of what Deborah says, but it gets me thinking, just like Frod gets me thinking (not to compare the two styles, only to say they both make you stop and think).

[Anonymous]

Cayo:

No disrespect, but she's done it, it's hurt the cause, and I've seen it plenty (although I admit sometimes it subtle).

We can disagree on this, I only responded because you asked a legitimate question and I wanted to explain (at least from this anon's way of thinking) what's going on.

Anon Out

[Cayo Hueso]

I see your point, but I still think being "thoughtful about their power" runs very close to suggesting that she censor herself.  

Good to have a discussion without the rage.  Thanks

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