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Is Hyde School being a *bad* neighbor?

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Ursus:
Looks like someone from this complex has put their condo up for sale.

Coincidence, purrrrchance? :eek:
If I'm reading the descrip correctly, the timing would suggest that possibility...

Here are the stats:


4 Pine Hill Drive, Bath ME 04530
Status:   Unknown
Bedrooms:   3
Bathrooms:   1 full, 1 partial
Property type:   Condo
Size:   1,170 sqft
Lot:   —
Year built:   1989
Added on Trulia:   180+ days ago
Nearby School:   Hyde School
Zip:   04530[/list]
Description provided by Trulia
This Condo is located at 4 Pine Hill Drive, Bath ME. 4 Pine Hill Dr is in the 04530 ZIP code in Bath, ME. The average listing price for ZIP code 04530 is $252,734. 4 Pine Hill Dr has 3 beds, 1 ½ bath, approximately 1,170 square feet, and was built in 1989

Listing Info for 4 Pine Hill Dr
Most recent information provided by CHR Realty/GMAC Real Estate:
Price: $89,995
Status: Unknown
3 Bedrooms
1 full, 1 partial Bathroom
1,170 sqft
Condo
Built In 1989Property Taxes for 4 Pine Hill Dr
Year 2009
Value Assessed
Land $30,000
Improvements $56,200
Total $86,200
Tax $1,483
Source: Public Records[/list][/list]

Xelebes:

--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Looks like someone from this complex has put their condo up for sale.

Coincidence, purrrrchance? :eek:
If I'm reading the descrip correctly, the timing would suggest that possibility...

--- End quote ---

What are you suggesting?

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Xelebes" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Looks like someone from this complex has put their condo up for sale.

Coincidence, purrrrchance? :eek:
If I'm reading the descrip correctly, the timing would suggest that possibility...

--- End quote ---
What are you suggesting?
--- End quote ---
Oooooh, I was just being a lil snarky. Nevertheless, said circumstances do suggest some rumination on contextual elements.

That is, what would *YOU* think of realities like this:

People who live at Pine Hill say they've had yearly flooding issues for the past seven years or so, and they blame The Hyde School, which is just up the hill, for doing construction that causes more water to filter onto their property.[/list][/size]
...and this:

residents say their yards — and sometimes even their homes — are rendered useless to them because of water pooling several feet deep as a result of storms.

"This is happening every year and it's getting worse and worse and worse," said Willow Street resident Gina Hamilton...[/list][/size]
...resulting in reactions/sentiments like this:

Pinehillresident wrote: 3/8/2011 5:17 PM EST on wcsh6.com
Yeah but you don't have to pay 7,000 out of your pocket for carpet and flooring and other other things. This is the 2nd time this has happen to me and it has almost flooded my house 10+ times. So when you want to pay that and what not be my guest then YOU deal with the water.[/list][/list][/size]
...and running up against a stone wall like this:

The Hyde School's facilities manager says the school has made only minor improvements, and that there may be a drainage issue at pine hill.[/list][/size]
...reiterated in more detail like this:

George Paton, facilities manager for Hyde and a civil engineer, on Tuesday said... "This drainage swale has been here for thousands of years," Paton explained. "It's a natural drainage course."

He added that "(on) the part of the campus that contributes to that, there've been very minor changes since the campus was built. ... We haven't changed much in terms of the drainage flow."[/list][/size]
...when The Truth of the matter is that Hyde School has erected a number of entire buildings during this time span, including one quite close to the Pine Hill condominium complex.

Ursus:
This condo for sale looks like it'll be an excellent opportunity for a recently hired junior faculty member, who is chafing at the bit to get fully SUBMERGED in 'The Process.' . . . :D

When you check out the accompanying Satellite Map for the above noted residence, you can see that the condominium complex is separated from Hyde's gym (large long building with the modified barrel roof) by barely more than a hedgerow's worth of trees. What is not so easily discernible from the Satellite Map is the difference in number of feet above sea level. The Hyde School property is more elevated.

Judging from the above news footage stills, I imagine that you will feel as though you are not much, if at all, above sea level during a heavy rainfall.

Ursus:
Interestingly enough, Hyde School seems to believe that yet more construction might alleviate the problem! From another thread on this forum, here's an excerpt from the article, "Hyde School in Bath plans to build new dorm" (by Beth Brogan; October 19, 2011; The Times Record):


Flooding issues

MacMillan said school representatives met with residents of the Pine Hill neighborhood, near the campus, to discuss previous flooding issues in their homes. More meetings are scheduled.

"Engineers tell me building the dorm would actually help resolve the current problem," he said.

According to Whipple's memo, ledge behind the building would be blasted to direct drainage away from the new dormitory.

A stormwater management report prepared by Pinkham and Greer Consulting Engineers of Falmouth concluded that the project "is not expected to generate any changes to the peak flows, due to large watershed areas and small increase in impervious areas, and should have no adverse effect on adjacent properties, downstream drainage or receiving waters."

That report is undergoing peer review by Topsham engineering firm Wright-Pierce.

The Bath Planning Board will consider a request for site plan approval at a meeting scheduled for 5 p.m. Nov. 1 at City Hall.[/list][/size]
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the Pine Hill residents were apt to interpret Hyde's enthusiasm ... with a bit of reserve.

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