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Offline Antigen

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« on: November 23, 2003, 11:46:00 PM »
I just got wind of a rumor that Ken Zaretski wants to sue me for something he didn't read on Fornits. He couldn't have read it, that would be absurd, because we all know Ken doesn't read this forum, right?

Anybody know if that's true, that he's planning on filing suit? Anyone know why in the world he wouldn't call, write, PM, IM or send a postcard or something if he had a problem with me?

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2003, 12:12:00 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2003, 03:15:00 PM »
Why would you care Ginger?
Is there supposed to be some underlying humor here with Ken "visiting the site"? he claims not to?

This forum, its contributors, and the ongoing bullshit that is posted is a sorry example of how feeble immature minds can congregate and mingle among each other for a worthless cause.

Ginger is the proud leader of this neanderthal culture. Unfortunately, too many people believe the "freedom of speech" removes accountability for what you say...wrong.

I hope Ken makes your life miserable Ginger, for one reason. Maybe those who participate here (especially the annon) will wake up and discover you are leading them further and further from the closure they seek by providing a purely useless (and often slanderous/libelous) outlet for some legitimate issues.

Did someone forget that Elan and other functioning TC's are businesses which have every legal right to file suit against individuals and entities who voice maliscous misinformnation in an effort to cause harm to that business? I'm confident I will get no arguement when I say the shit is quite thick in here. To fantastic levels even.
Its pretty black and white, but I am sure Ginger and her band of foul mouthed followers will waste no time disecting the post and reducing it yet again to an "I'm right youre wrong" observation.

And no...I am not Ken Z, or anyone else you think may lend reason to my opinions. Just a "survivor" living a normal life in the Northwest. Struggling more with post-elan idiots than the memory of Elan for sure! So glad I can shut you all off.

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2003, 03:47:00 PM »
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Ginger is the proud leader of this neanderthal culture.

Apparently you've been taking lessons on how to insult people from Ted Kennedy. Good one, jackass!  :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2003, 04:02:00 PM »
Every month or so, someone pops up on the Elan boards saying lawsuit this and legal action that.  To date, since 1999, when the first Elan site went up, nobody has ever sued anyone for ANYTHING.  That goes for Elan or its "survivors/alumni."

Bottom line: Bunch of talk.  If you're gonna sue, don't talk; just do it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2003, 05:24:00 PM »
Ladies and gentlemen...i am pleased to report that things are moving along nicely. Shooting will begin in early January 04. Ill spill some beans and tell you that the music for this film is being composed by one whom i will not hesitate to call a genius. More about him as time goes by. I need to tell you this: I tried to post on the Elan Alum site...Kenny Z, seems to not have wanted to post info about or endorse our little movie and my post is gone missing after 3-4 days of a no-show. So i wrote him the following : " As the parent  (who paid your salary) of a former resident, i think i have a right to be heard, don't you?Are you afraid of something? Have you anything to hide? If you are..I can pretty well promise you that will become public. You can take that to the bank. We are in production of an even-handed [documentary] look at Elan, The good, the bad and the ugly, so to speak. So why not show you are the good guy you claim to be, and be a bit less draconian? Post my messages."
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2003, 07:43:00 PM »
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On 2003-11-24 12:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

Ginger is the proud leader of this neanderthal culture. Unfortunately, too many people believe the "freedom of speech" removes accountability for what you say...wrong.


You give me way, way too much credit, anon. I'm not anybody's leader except my dog. And even she's got a mind of her own. I just run a webserver. I don't tell anyone what to say or think.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2003, 09:07:00 PM »
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On 2003-11-24 12:15:00, Anonymous wrote:



This forum, its contributors, and the ongoing bullshit that is posted is a sorry example of how feeble immature minds can congregate and mingle among each other for a worthless cause.



Ginger is the proud leader of this neanderthal culture. Unfortunately, too many people believe the "freedom of speech" removes accountability for what you say...wrong.



I hope Ken makes your life miserable Ginger, for one reason. Maybe those who participate here (especially the annon) will wake up and discover you are leading them further and further from the closure they seek by providing a purely useless (and often slanderous/libelous) outlet for some legitimate issues.



Did someone forget that Elan and other functioning TC's are businesses which have every legal right to file suit against individuals and entities who voice maliscous misinformnation in an effort to cause harm to that business? I'm confident I will get no arguement when I say the shit is quite thick in here. To fantastic levels even.

If Elan were innocent, they would just ignore this site. You seem to forget that they can't sue if people are being truthful. And you can't sue if people are expressing their opinion such as "Elan sucks" or something like that. The only thing not true on this site is about those 2 kiss-up guys eating poop. I understand faking it to make it, but I know Peter went beyond, and from what people at 7 tell me, Fred was an even bigger kiss-ass. But they are the only ones with the right to sue for libel. This is America, people can say what they want, and if they are saying stupid things, let them, because they'll embarrass themselves, which is exactly what that guy who writes about poop is doing. People are not in concept, so they can say what they want. You can always ignore it.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2003, 09:15:00 PM »
No, they can sue. Anyone can bring suit against anyone for anything or nothing. The trouble is that all of the evidence, testimony and deposition, if it gets that far, become a part of the public record. So it takes just a HUGE amount of money carefully spent on really ass-kicking lawyers to carry off a successful SLAP suit. It only really works if the plaintif is able to quash all or most of the evidence AND if the suit itself doesn't draw unwanted attention of it's own.

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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2003, 11:38:00 PM »
I am sorry this just really makes my pre holidays spirits even better .

This is just going to be a fantasic thanksgiving and wonderful christmas .I wish and hope that everyone who reads these boards (except elan and its henchmen  of course ) has really fantastic holidays .

I  posted first on the elan survivours site back in 2001 .topic" chilled me to the marrow in my bones "my opinions about zaretsky. this really is not new music to his ears .

There are reasons why I am of the opinion that zaretsky is a prevert and pathological sociopath .And  why i feel that he should be spending the rest of his natural life in prison,



(this is also my opinion.) I have not posted in depth these reasons.

 I would glady testify under oath (in depth)in front of a judge and jury (and the world ) what these reasons are. It is what I believe to be true . I have no desire to post anything that I know is not true ,not my style .

I feel very strongly about this and really as I have posted before do not want to talk to old boy keN except in a court of law . It would be doing the right thing and i would gladly do it .

In the words of David Bryne ,this aint no Disco
                             this aint no party
                   this aint no foolin around ,and to parphrase ," certainly aint no streetfight"

    From the song ,Life During Wartime ,Talking Heads.

Can you feel it ? Do ya feel it ? Good I thought so .Cause it is as real as it gets .bring it on little doggie .



And I do mean a happy holidays to all (cept well you know )

Peace

Matt
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