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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 09:52:07 AM »
Oh well.  Some advice, Craig:  :suicide:  :twofinger:
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Heal-Online & Fornit's Wayward Web Fora Falsify Information.
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 12:01:51 PM »
LOLOLOLOLLLL! Such saber rattling!! So, Abundant Life Academy is not so abundant in spirit, eh? :D

And, he's targeted the fornits Wiki as well!

Here's an excerpt for posterity's sake; I can't imagine that he'll leave this post intact when he realizes what a shot in the foot it is (I could be wrong, though! lol!):

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Craig & Wendy Rogers – Parent Coaches – Help for Troubled Teens
Posted on January 29, 2011 by Craig Rogers

Heal-Online & Fornit's Wayward Web Fora Falsify Information to Cause Harm to Boarding Schools for Troubled Teens

Heal-online and Fornit's Wayward Web attack therapeutic boarding schools with a smear campaign. The following information is taken directly off the websites owned and managed by Heal-Online and Fornit's Wayward Web Fora. Both organizations are known for targeting boarding schools for troubled teens with the intentions of spreading false information meant to financially harm anyone associated with Boarding Schools for Troubled Teens. Heal-Online and Fornit's Wayward Web Fora are covers for many social activists with similar causes. Both Heal-Online and Fornit's are self-admitted radical leftists who have claimed that there is nothing "off the table" as it pertains to the harassment, and harm, of therapeutic boarding schools, including criminal acts (including violence, use of fire, use of bombs, etc.).

Love them or hate them the radical left-wing groups known as Heal-Online and Fornit's are pushing hate, violence, and intolerance. There is no better description of the intolerant left-wing agenda than right there on the Heal-Online and Fornit's web sites, for the entire world to see. They don't hide their hate and they are proud to share it. One look at their agenda and its easy for the visitor to grasp the lack of credibility and the obvious slant/bias. Nothing they present on their websites can be trusted. Its all garbage, skewed, rude, and mostly lude.

Both Heal-Online and Fornit's are open activists for prisoners rights, including pedophiles and other crimes related to child abuse. Both groups are self-proclaimed animal rights activities as well as self-proclaimed left-wing radicals with the intention of protecting the environment at any cost. Moreover, both organization support the legalization of Marijuana and other illicit drugs. The most disturbing is their stance on the protection of prisoner's rights, most specifically those in prison for crimes against children. Below you will find information taken directly off of their websites and provided to you as links to their sites. They can't deny their own propaganda. Everything below this paragraph is taken directly from their websites.

<snip snip for sheer excess of poorly executed copy-pasta>
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 12:24:20 PM »
More about this moron, Craig Stephen Rogers, below, courtesy of Ursus:

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Someone recently posted a new thread about ALA, but then chose to pull it. In the meantime, I had already composed a reply. Hence, I'm tacking my reply onto this thread, fwiw...

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A friend of mine posted a question here on facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=6088120783

She signed up just for this occasion and basicaly just asked about the experience of former students. She is doing some research on faith based schools ....her question was reported,her account was deleted....
Someone from ALA reported her...and sent her a very threatening mail (basicaly telling her they will talk to their lawyers etc.)

So I posted a question there today...and got similar feedback from that ALA person.
Now I am waiting if my account will be deleted as well LOL
I mean..the ALA reaction is so overboard...it was just a question, nothing else...If a single question freakes them out and causes such an reaction...don't you think it is strange?
Yes... Abundant Life Academy is a bit "feisty" in this regard. If your friend is doing research on faith-based programs per se, there are also quite a few others of that ilk discussed on fornits, e.g., ones associated with Roloff Ministries. Another program with a heavy Christian hand and which has been recently addressed is Shepherd's Hill Farm.

Anyway, here are some threads which discuss or mention Abundant Life Academy specifically (there are more). There appears to be some type of connection to WWASPS; at a quick glance I can't tell whether that connection is personal, financial, or institutional. Two other good terms to search for would be Spencer Moody and Craig Rogers:


 :soapbox:  :soapbox:  :soapbox:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 12:48:34 PM »
Ignorant fundy bastard spells lewd, as LUDE......freudian slip perhaps? :rofl:
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 07:26:35 PM »
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Ignorant fundy bastard spells lewd, as LUDE......freudian slip perhaps? :rofl:

Kkyeah...noticed that..  :roflmao:
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 12:06:41 AM »
I was thinking today if maybe this guy was Whooter. Funny how one episode followed the other. I know crazy. Was anyone else thinking along these lines or am I, REALLY FISH'IN.
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 09:50:15 AM »
I'll cop to it, the thought crossed my mind..but I don't know if i really believe that or not (and i think people here can tend to jump to conclusions).. besides it seems like a couple of people on the forum are already acquainted with this person..
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 09:04:21 PM »
I doubt its him, this guy is way fundy,and less literate. But if it did turn out to be  whooter, Id nominate him for an oscar. :rofl:

Kinda pisses me of to think, im considered a "leftist" now. But this whiney little crybaby wouldnt know the difference.
I mean fuck, I geuss if being Pro- gun, and Pro-chioce,and a rabid hater of PETA,makes me a leftist....... :roflmao:
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2011, 12:03:38 PM »
I feel all but certain Craig is not the Who. The personalities are very different.

I can not imagine why Craig is doing this? Seems nuts. He is providing advertising complete with links to the very forums he feels do damage to his business.  I can't imagine very many ALA people stumble upon Fornits or HEAL, or that if they did they would take what they find in a casual reading very seriously. All he is doing is directing people to check it out and adding weight to the opposition argument with such a protest.

Angela's HEAL is what it is b/c it is basically one person's work. But when she posts a statement by a student that is the student's first hand account - not Angela's opinion - and such accounts carry a lot of credibility, especially as they grow in number.

Why he would want to play with the fire that is Fornits really puzzles me. How he can think a wide-open, public forum can be stuck in a "leftist" box is beyond me.  

It's just really depressing for me to see this kind of thing coming from a Christian man.
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2011, 01:26:12 PM »
The thing that is depressing to me is the abuse generated, after all, faith is as faith DOES ,right? Least that what my gramma said. :nods:  Ive known some truly decent people in my time, from all faiths,and I DO mean ALL. I doubt this cat qualifies. The whole leftist thing is a feeble attempt and marginalizing and opponent,while pandering to a specific, conservetive and fudamentalist mindset.  Ive seen many of his type also, he's more to be pitied in my book.
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2011, 01:54:55 PM »
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The thing that is depressing to me is the abuse generated,

Well sure. This goes without saying. For me, as a Christian, and one who has been grateful for the friendship of the Rogers family, the sadness of the situation is somewhat magnified.


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after all, faith is as faith DOES ,right? Least that what my gramma said. :nods:
Isn't the saying Beauty is as beauty does?  Same difference tho, isn't it? As for faith, the Christian faith, as taught by Christ, is nothing remotely like what has been on display here - and this too is a sad thing. Craig really should know better.

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Ive known some truly decent people in my time, from all faiths,and I DO mean ALL. I doubt this cat qualifies.
It seems doubtful - and this is sad, b/c I know (I think) that he is basically a generous and self-sacrificing man. I find myself wondering what has happened? Has his grandiosity taken over completely? He seems to have a loosened grasp of reality.

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The whole leftist thing is a feeble attempt and marginalizing and opponent,while pandering to a specific, conservetive and fudamentalist mindset.  Ive seen many of his type also, he's more to be pitied in my book.

I agree.
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2011, 04:18:13 PM »
go to YOU TUBE and search FORNITS to see the feeble lil blurb on INTOLERANCE from ALA.......kinda like the pot callin the kettle a skillet :roflmao: But again jesus is the ONLY WAY,no? Whats next? bet its DEADINSANEINJAIL........some day therell be a hearing.......and somebody's card will get pulled......same as it ever was ::deadhorse::
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2011, 04:24:45 PM »
Quote from: "seamus"
go to YOU TUBE and search FORNITS to see the feeble lil blurb on INTOLERANCE from ALA.......kinda like the pot callin the kettle a skillet :roflmao: But again jesus is the ONLY WAY,no? Whats next? bet its DEADINSANEINJAIL........some day therell be a hearing.......and somebody's card will get pulled......same as it ever was ::deadhorse::

What the hell is this guy talking about (the audio sucks)?
What i can understand sounds like fucking bullshit...
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Re: Craig Stephen Rogers is angry at Fornits and HEAL
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2011, 06:30:36 PM »
Who is Eric Norwoood?

Why does he think he can't express his opinion here if he wants? Or that anyone opposes him expressing his opinion anywhere? Once again, I am left scratching my head. This is very strange. Maybe he thinks he should be able to express his opinion without opposition or debate??
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