Author Topic: Ridge Creek School experiencing well deserved success (Read 39026 times)

Whooter · « **Reply #105 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:07:16 PM »

Quote from: "RobertBruce"

And what you keep carefully avoiding is the fact that these positions were already filled. RC has been around for years, simply because it was expanded due to the closure of HLA does not mean the positions simply disappeared. The positions and people filling them were already in place.

Once again, refilling other people's old positions is not a sign of growth.

It is a sign that it is growing because they didnt have those positions filled last year and this year they will have all these new people. That is considered growth. It looks like a half a million in extra salaries this year. I am sure they lost many employees when HLA closed. People cannot stand around not getting a pay check hoping the school will open again.

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goose · « **Reply #106 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:21:36 PM »

Whooter,
After reading though the post, I have to say that while I disagree with about 99.9% of the stuff that DJ post, he has this one right. This school is not adding positions due to growth; in fact, if my info is correct they are in trouble. I mean trouble from a business point of view and nothing else. I am sure that constant bashing from the likes of DJ do not help matters any, but I am telling you from a purely business point of view they have problems.

Whooter · « **Reply #107 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:25:46 PM »

Quote from: "goose"

Whooter,
After reading though the post, I have to say that while I disagree with about 99.9% of the stuff that DJ post, he has this one right. This school is not adding positions due to growth; in fact, if my info is correct they are in trouble. I mean trouble from a business point of view and nothing else. I am sure that constant bashing from the likes of DJ do not help matters any, but I am telling you from a purely business point of view they have problems.

This is the right thread to discuss this, Goose, and thank you for your input. They dont seem to be in trouble from a financial standpoint because they are committing about $500,000 in salary increases for 2011. Maybe they are gambling on getting state appointed kids and are beefing up their payroll who knows, but it appears from their plans for 2011 that they are expecting an increase in volume.

Do you think this is all just a front to get state kids?

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goose · « **Reply #108 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:32:26 PM »

Whooter,

I would love to know where you pulled that info from. My info shows that at present, they are having trouble meeting payroll. You and I both know that if some finical work sheet or plan show an increase in budget for the following year in payroll, it means nothing if you can’t pay the employees you currently have. Hence, I am guessing, part of the reason for the employee turnover.

Whooter · « **Reply #109 on:** January 17, 2011, 05:44:29 PM »

Quote from: "goose"

Whooter,

I would love to know where you pulled that info from. My info shows that at present, they are having trouble meeting payroll. You and I both know that if some finical work sheet or plan show an increase in budget for the following year in payroll, it means nothing if you can’t pay the employees you currently have. Hence, I am guessing, part of the reason for the employee turnover.

I agree, Goose, if they are loosing employees due to non payment or financial problems then the job descriptions for new hires that they posted for 2011 may be just a front. I dont know how they operate.

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heretik · « **Reply #110 on:** January 17, 2011, 07:02:19 PM »

I tell you how they operate like a bunch of one-armed paper hangers.

Whooter · « **Reply #111 on:** January 18, 2011, 10:39:11 AM »

Quote from: "heretik"

I tell you how they operate like a bunch of one-armed paper hangers.

I agree that this is the perception here on fornits because that is what they want this place Ridege Creek to be, but so far the evidence points to a school which is hiring new employees and getting ready for a year of expansion.

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Dysfunction Junction · « **Reply #112 on:** January 18, 2011, 10:51:33 AM »

Quote from: "Guest3"

Ridge Creek School is not recognized by the state of Georgia as a private school nor is it considered licensed by the state as a school; it is considered a child caring institution. Parents need to know this so they can make an informed decision before placing their child there. The fact that RCS is permitted to call itself a "school" is very questionable to me.

RCS is not considered a "Private" school:
http://public.doe.k12.ga.us/ci_exceptio ... ateSchools

RCS is not considered a "Private" school by GAPSAC:
http://www.gapsac.org/index.php?option= ... 4&Itemid=3

RCS is not considered a "Public" school:
http://lumpkincounty.schoolinsites.com/?PN=Schools2

RCS is not considered a "Charter" school:
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_charter.aspx

RCS is not considered a "State" school:
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_stateschools.aspx

Find " State Certified" teachers:
http://www.gapsc.com/

I don't think so, Whooter. Georgia says they aren't a school.

Whooter · « **Reply #113 on:** January 18, 2011, 11:06:42 AM »

Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"

Quote from: "Guest3"
Ridge Creek School is not recognized by the state of Georgia as a private school nor is it considered licensed by the state as a school; it is considered a child caring institution. Parents need to know this so they can make an informed decision before placing their child there. The fact that RCS is permitted to call itself a "school" is very questionable to me.

RCS is not considered a "Private" school:
http://public.doe.k12.ga.us/ci_exceptio ... ateSchools

RCS is not considered a "Private" school by GAPSAC:
http://www.gapsac.org/index.php?option= ... 4&Itemid=3

RCS is not considered a "Public" school:
http://lumpkincounty.schoolinsites.com/?PN=Schools2

RCS is not considered a "Charter" school:
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_charter.aspx

RCS is not considered a "State" school:
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_stateschools.aspx

Find " State Certified" teachers:
http://www.gapsc.com/

I don't think so, Whooter. Georgia says they aren't a school.

They have teachers and classrooms. They are coming up on their accreditation... so I think we can call them a school. At least that is what I will be calling it. They are overseen by the state of Georgia DHS. I dont think I can agree with you here on this one, DJ.

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Dysfunction Junction · « **Reply #114 on:** January 18, 2011, 11:08:37 AM »

I don't particularly care what you agree with or don't agree with. The facts, from the state of Georgia, show Ridge Creek is a registered corporation and not a school of any type recognized by law. Facts are stubborn things.

Whooter · « **Reply #115 on:** January 18, 2011, 11:18:32 AM »

Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"

I don't particularly care what you agree with or don't agree with. The facts, from the state of Georgia, show Ridge Creek is a registered corporation and not a school of any type recognized by law. Facts are stubborn things.

So we both agree that the school in question is named "Ridge Creek School". The state of Georgia does not dispute this fact so you will have an uphill battle trying to convince the readers otherwise.

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Dysfunction Junction · « **Reply #116 on:** January 18, 2011, 12:17:53 PM »

They are registered with the state as "Ridge Creek, Inc." What they call themselves is irrelevant. The reports by DHS about the beatings, rapes, thefts, assaults, etc. all clearly state the "provider name" as "Ridge Creek, Inc." In fact, the word "school" never appears in any of the oversight reports.

Quote from: "DHS Oversight Report"

Georgia Department of Human Resources,
Office of Regulatory Services State Form
Statement of Deficiencies
Name of Provider or Supplier
RIDGE CREEK, INC
Street Address, City, State Zip Code
830 HIDDEN LAKE ROAD
DAHLONEGA, GA 30533
Inspection Results

Whooter knows this, but as I said, he's on the payroll and in on the scam. His income depends on not telling the truth about it.

Whooter · « **Reply #117 on:** January 18, 2011, 12:27:35 PM »

They have attained accreditation from the State of Georgia to teach kids within the state. So it seems you are once again trying to mislead the readers, DJ. I will have to go with the GAC (Georgia accrediting Commission), The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Council on Accreditation and School Improvement and the information provided from the school itself.

Lets take a look:

Continuing our long history of academic excellence, we, the faculty and the staff of Ridge Creek Boarding School, are pleased to announce our "quality" accreditation designation granted by The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Council on Accreditation and School Improvement (SACSCASI) and Georgia Accrediting Commission (GAC) . Our enduring goal is to provide an unsurpassed learning and therapeutic environment for adolescents struggling during this difficult phase of life.

Link

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Dysfunction Junction · « **Reply #118 on:** January 18, 2011, 12:40:09 PM »

So you now agree they are registered with the state government as a corporation. Good. The Georgia Dept of Human Resources (the oversight agency) is not confused about it.

Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction"

They are registered with the state as "Ridge Creek, Inc." What they call themselves is irrelevant. The reports by DHS about the beatings, rapes, thefts, assaults, etc. all clearly state the "provider name" as "Ridge Creek, Inc." In fact, the word "school" never appears in any of the oversight reports.

Quote from: "DHS Oversight Report"
Georgia Department of Human Resources,
Office of Regulatory Services State Form
Statement of Deficiencies
Name of Provider or Supplier
RIDGE CREEK, INC
Street Address, City, State Zip Code
830 HIDDEN LAKE ROAD
DAHLONEGA, GA 30533
Inspection Results

Whooter knows this, but as I said, he's on the payroll and in on the scam. His income depends on not telling the truth about it.

Whooter · « **Reply #119 on:** January 18, 2011, 12:52:07 PM »

It looks like they are anticipating more kids than they expected. The school just added another request for a counselor. Here lets take a look:

Link to job descriptions

Director of Academics (Georgia Certified masters level)
Head Master (Masters level)
Special Ed Teacher (Georgia Certified)
Director of counseling (Licensed and masters level)
2 - Counselors (Licensed)
Admissions counselor (Bachelors/Masters level)

Its hard to argue that the school is not growing and doing well

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