Fornits.... on to no-where

[Anonymous]

Obviously this Elan topic portion of the website is a bit of a competition to see who can say the most vile, disgusting, stupid thing. Whats the point? type into cyber space like any of the people that are attacked are actually reading this disturbed crap?

Do any of you people feel like you're being used?
Picture this scenario.
Ginger is hell-bent to expose an "epidemic" of child abuse past and present and the effects of T.C.'s on adults who have been exposed to the in-your-face concepts with questionable behavior modification tactics.
So what better way to do it but provide an unmoderated environment where disturbing, mundane, disgusting displays of vile behavior can be published to the web and read (and judged) by anyone?

Do you feel used yet? Does it occur to you that whatever legitimate troubles you may have as a result of Elan are being exploited in a simple attempt to support HER views and beliefs with no offering of closure or resolution? She allows this to happen annonymously, just a clever way of saying she doesnt give a fuck who might have something to say in SUPPORT of her cause. Hey, theres an avenue of help to those who might need it..."dont tell me who you are, just put your name on my list of fucking brainwashed, damaged assholes by posting the most disgusting thing you can think of"

Are you all that fucked up? Does Elan effect your lives in such a way that you need Ginger Warbiss to do your (annonymous) talking for you? Lumping you all together (not unlike treatment approached your problems) and saying to her crowd of liberal listener(s) (assuming theres more than just her hearing her self serving cries for revenge...oops, I mean justice) "look, see how fuckin insane they are"

I'll just say this, when I read the fantasy posts here, the tales of who did what, and why...(Claire the whore, Marty the child molester) I simply read how volitile and disturbed the author is rather than judge the carachter of those who are so bruttally and senselessly attacked.

Type your little finger tips off...think of the most vile, wretched, far-fetched thing you can say about a person (who will never read it) and ask yourselves what exactly you have accomplished other than making an annonymous fool of yourself that no-one really has to live with after the computer is turned off but YOU.

Free speech SHOULD be defended and supported, but the concept is so abused here simply because the constitutionally protected freedom of speech does NOT remove ACCOUNTABILILY for WHAT is said and who says it... The fact that posters can post anon is directly in breach of the contract and defies the concept that allows us to SPEAK FREELY. Nothing which is said here deserves or is worthy enough to be published or read by anyone when done in this cowardly, inconsequencial, bullshit manner.

Something for the unhostile, possitive people who come in and waste thier time arguing with the morons here...why feed the fire?, if they have no-one to argue with or debate thier fictitious ideas, nobody to react to the quite sick words... eventually they will get as sick of themselves as the rest of us are.

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Mick

[Nazi]

Go fuck yourself you little fagot.No one cares about your love and passion for the idiots that work up at elan.This webpage is for people that hate elan and the corrupt mother fuckers that run it.
We dont need some little crying baby coming over here complaining about what we say.Go fuck yourself and when you're done repeat the process.

[Anonymous]

Bruttally and Senselessly attacked!your out of your fuckin mind!Granted some of poor Marty attacks are Perhaps thats there way of fighting back and taking back what was taken.Why are you reading it,have nothing better to do?Pesonally he was a sick fucking fagot and looked like one too!I dont know about the teepee or the shit storys but,they are amusing.He is sick and came out sick on so many.All in the name of Theropy.What a fucking SIN.So go shout your mouth off to someone who gives a dame.Elan try and it can still get you in your sleep,doesnt mean these people dont have lives and good ones.See ya mick the dick

[Anonymous]

oh, the language,that was taught there I way of exspressing ones anger.And why you attacking her,as you put it.cause your so far up martys ass.oh poor mick the dick still so lost and brainwashed.Your funny you came here to read and posted that we had nothing better to do.how elan is that lol. later mick the dick.get over it is all you here,sure REMOVE HIM,and closure begind stupid.

[Anonymous]

come here post and closure begins.correcting my post,your off the hook.

[Anonymous]

yes, closure begins when you post here. That's why the same three or for sicko's post every day. Because they have gotten closure. Now I understand. Naw, No thanks, I don't want closure if that's what closure is.

[Antigen]

On 2003-10-14 23:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Obviously this Elan topic portion of the website is a bit of a competition to see who can say the most vile, disgusting, stupid thing. Whats the point?

I don't know what the point is. Maybe they're trying to make the top ten at http://www.steakandcheese.com/ or win acclaim and status at http://fugly.com/index2.php

Do any of you people feel like you're being used?

Picture this scenario.

Ginger is hell-bent to expose an "epidemic" of child abuse past and present and the effects of T.C.'s on adults who have been exposed to the in-your-face concepts with questionable behavior modification tactics.

So what better way to do it but provide an unmoderated environment where disturbing, mundane, disgusting displays of vile behavior can be published to the web and read (and judged) by anyone?

I think I've been pretty up-front about it. It's not like I'm making big piles of money from this stuff. In fact, if you want me to share the "wealth", I'll send you half my bandwidth bill next month.

Do you feel used yet? Does it occur to you that whatever legitimate troubles you may have as a result of Elan are being exploited in a simple attempt to support HER views and beliefs with no offering of closure or resolution?

How in the world am I making anyone support any particular views by not controling the discussion? Are you suggesting that I have some kind of supernatural mind control powers or something. Come to Fornits ::bangin:: then don't play with them. It only makes it fun and interesting for them.

A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

A republic is where the sheep get to pick which wolves vote on what to have for dinner.

But in a constitutional republic, voting on dinner is strictly
forbidden.

--A Patriot

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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
American drug war P.O.W.
   10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
Anonymity Anonymous

[Paul St. John]

On 2003-10-14 23:55:00, Anonymous wrote:



PS: Wow.  Seemds like I have missed a lot, but I don't hvae time right now, to look through all this shit, so I am jus gonna give this one post some quick attention.


"Obviously this Elan topic portion of the website is a bit of a competition to see who can say the most vile, disgusting, stupid thing. Whats the point?

PS:I think it's a bot more then that.

 type into cyber space like any of the people that are attacked are actually reading this disturbed crap?

 PS:(YAWN)





Do any of you people feel like you're being used?



Picture this scenario.

Ginger is hell-bent to expose an "epidemic" of child abuse past and present and the effects of T.C.'s on adults who have been exposed to the in-your-face concepts with questionable behavior modification tactics.


Yeah.. She is into that.  So what?

 

So what better way to do it but provide an unmoderated environment where disturbing, mundane, disgusting displays of vile behavior can be published to the web and read (and judged) by anyone?



Do you feel used yet? Does it occur to you that whatever legitimate troubles you may have as a result of Elan are being exploited in a simple attempt to support HER views and beliefs with no offering of closure or resolution?

PS: No.. It doesn't occur to me at allm, nor have you offerred any real proof.  At best what you have there is a paranoid conspircay theory, and this board is in fact moderated.



 She allows this to happen annonymously, just a clever way of saying she doesnt give a fuck who might have something to say in SUPPORT of her cause. Hey, theres an avenue of help to those who might need it..."dont tell me who you are, just put your name on my list of fucking brainwashed, damaged assholes by posting the most disgusting thing you can think of"


PS:Dude, you are pulling this shit out of your ass.





Are you all that fucked up?


PS: Hey dumbass.. Watch who you call fucked up!  :wstupid:



 Nothing which is said here deserves or is worthy enough to be published or read by anyone when done in this cowardly, inconsequencial, bullshit manner.




PS:Well, I don't know, I think I have wrote things that are far more worthy of being published then anything found anywhere else on these false Elan sites, such as Ken's.. Nazi too, has had some great objective input, and when he s not doing that, well he's still pretty damn funny!



Something for the unhostile, possitive people who come in and waste thier time arguing with the morons here...why feed the fire? :flame:  :flame:



PS: Weeelll.. then what the hell are you doing Mr. Positive?

, if they have no-one to argue with or debate thier fictitious ideas, nobody to react to the quite sick words... eventually they will get as sick of themselves as the rest of us are.



Hey Mick.. There haven t been too many arguments around here  :wink: not in quite some time!



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Mick"

Paul M St. John

[Nazi]

once again, well said Paul.I think this Mick charcter is Ken Zaretsky's personal blow up doll.He seems to be very sensitive about us bad mouthing Ken and the other corrupt asswads that run the Elan school.

On another note.It seems like art is trying to start shit again, something must of crawled up his asshole once again.
I look at it this way, in a few years they will be marking Art's grave site, me, I'll be right here.

[Antigen]

I just noticed another recurring trend.

Whenever a journalist, book author or documentarian tries to interview ppl from Elan or ppl from KIDS, a good many of them get very upset over the prospect of someone benefiting in some way from their contribution.

Now, in The Seed and Straight, there was a theme of paranoia along the lines of "The druggies are all out to get you and bring you down cause they're jealous and evil and... and." But I don't think it was quite this pervasive. At least, I haven't noticed quite so much of the same clanishness.

Now, there are a couple of things that Elan and Kids have in common that some of the other programs don't. One is a very strong, sadistic and charismatic cult leader (Ricci/Newton) That was true of The Seed, too. I suppose we just don't hear enough from Seedlings to tell one way or another.

I wonder if that has anything to do with it or not? Or is it maybe a lingering effect of more privation in some places than others? The thought stopper seems to be "Hey! Someone's trying to get something! There'll be less for you! Stop them!"

Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul alike.
-- John Muir