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Offline Anne Bonney

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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #180 on: December 24, 2010, 11:32:42 AM »
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I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks it is okay to pass off something that is not true

Hard pressed? Not at all. You lie about things all the time. The reason all of us (except you) are is because the entire TTI industry operates based on lies.

I am sorry that you cannot have a civil conversation, Bruce.


You try and make people think that you're trying to have a civil conversation but you're so passive-aggressive that it ruins your attempts.
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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #181 on: December 24, 2010, 11:36:06 AM »
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They did not evaluate their own performance they hired someone to do it

So they bought and paid for a glowing review. The only one on here who doesn't see that as a problem is you.

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They hire people to evaluate their financial performance as well and create a report on it. They hire people to conduct independent audits of their financial status. Why is this hard to understand?



So not only are you confused on the difference between services rendered and evaluations conducted, but now you don't understand the difference between a product evaluation and internal audit. Where did you go to college again?
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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #182 on: December 24, 2010, 11:40:39 AM »
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They did not evaluate their own performance they hired someone to do it

So they bought and paid for a glowing review. The only one on here who doesn't see that as a problem is you.

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They hire people to evaluate their financial performance as well and create a report on it. They hire people to conduct independent audits of their financial status. Why is this hard to understand?



So not only are you confused on the difference between services rendered and evaluations conducted, but now you don't understand the difference between a product evaluation and internal audit. Where did you go to college again?

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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #183 on: December 24, 2010, 11:44:06 AM »
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I am sorry that you cannot have a civil conversation, Bruce, and have a need to call people liars.



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I have a need to tell the truth. This is not an insult, it's a fact. You have a track record of lying about other posters whenever you feel cornered. Now we can waste time with with me providing countless of examples of you lying, followed up by you refusing to address or acknowledge any of them. The entire conversation will get derailed and the whole thing will get moved into OFFA and become another breeding ground for your sock puppets and porn links.

Or we can simply accept the fact that you are a liar, and stay on the topic at hand. That being this crap marketing survey.
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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #184 on: December 24, 2010, 11:51:41 AM »
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I am sorry that you cannot have a civil conversation, Bruce, and have a need to call people liars.



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I have a need to tell the truth. This is not an insult, it's a fact. You have a track record of lying about other posters whenever you feel cornered. Now we can waste time with with me providing countless of examples of you lying, followed up by you refusing to address or acknowledge any of them. The entire conversation will get derailed and the whole thing will get moved into OFFA and become another breeding ground for your sock puppets and porn links.

Or we can simply accept the fact that you are a liar, and stay on the topic at hand. That being this crap marketing survey.

All I can say is that I feel bad for you.  Its Christmas eve and you are filled with all this anger.  I hope you are able to find a way to enjoy the season, Bruce.



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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #185 on: December 24, 2010, 11:55:35 AM »
There's no anger here Whooter, I'm simply calling it like it is. There's a new year coming and a chance to make things anew. Really start over with a new leaf and try and stop all of your self defeating behavior. I hope you'll take that opportunity.

You think about that, but in the meantime let's get back to the topic at hand.

You were having issues understanding the difference between an internal audit and a product evaluation.

Let me put it to you this way; If big tobacco came out with some study that was never published or submitted for peer review which they bought and paid for that said smoking in no way causes or contributes to cancer would you believe it?
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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #186 on: December 24, 2010, 12:13:27 PM »
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Let me put it to you this way; If big tobacco came out with some study that was never published or submitted for peer review which they bought and paid for that said smoking in no way causes or contributes to cancer would you believe it?


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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #187 on: December 24, 2010, 12:17:45 PM »
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Let me put it to you this way; If big tobacco came out with some study that was never published or submitted for peer review which they bought and paid for that said smoking in no way causes or contributes to cancer would you believe it?

I would have to look at the study and how it was conducted.  was it overseen by a review board and approved?  It would be an interesting read I think we could agree.

What if a Research study came out and said that Aspen programs are grossly ineffective and even abusive in some instances.  Would you believe that study?



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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #188 on: December 24, 2010, 12:19:50 PM »
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Let me put it to you this way; If big tobacco came out with some study that was never published or submitted for peer review which they bought and paid for that said smoking in no way causes or contributes to cancer would you believe it?

I would have to look at the study and how it was conducted.  was it overseen by a review board and approved?  It would be an interesting read I think we could agree.

What if a Research study came out and said that Aspen programs are grossly ineffective and even abusive in some instances.  Would you believe that study?


If it's independent.  This "study" was not.
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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #189 on: December 24, 2010, 12:25:17 PM »
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If it's independent.  This "study" was not.

So each of us decides based on our own requirements.  Some of us would believe the studies while others would not and I think that is the way it should be.  No one can force us to believe anything we dont want to.  The main thing is to get the information out to the people and allow them to decide for themselves.



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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #190 on: December 24, 2010, 12:33:19 PM »
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If it's independent.  This "study" was not.

So each of us decides based on our own requirements.  Some of us would believe the studies while others would not and I think that is the way it should be.  No one can force us to believe anything we dont want to.  The main thing is to get the information out to the people and allow them to decide for themselves.


But you twist the information and not only that, you have no experience inside those places.  We do.
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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #191 on: December 24, 2010, 12:49:45 PM »
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If it's independent.  This "study" was not.

So each of us decides based on our own requirements.  Some of us would believe the studies while others would not and I think that is the way it should be.  No one can force us to believe anything we dont want to.  The main thing is to get the information out to the people and allow them to decide for themselves.


But you twist the information and not only that, you have no experience inside those places.  We do.


I have experience with the TTI , it is just different than yours and more up to date.



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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #192 on: December 24, 2010, 12:51:44 PM »
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If it's independent.  This "study" was not.

So each of us decides based on our own requirements.  Some of us would believe the studies while others would not and I think that is the way it should be.  No one can force us to believe anything we dont want to.  The main thing is to get the information out to the people and allow them to decide for themselves.


But you twist the information and not only that, you have no experience inside those places.  We do.


I have experience with the TTI , it is just different than yours and more up to date.


You have OUTSIDE experience.  You have no idea what it's like to be inside one of those places for years at a time.
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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #193 on: December 24, 2010, 01:10:15 PM »
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I have experience with the TTI , it is just different than yours and more up to date

You have a limited outsiders experience that does not come close to our first hand experiences. Your information is by no means up to date or accurate.
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Re: Independent Study Shows Success.
« Reply #194 on: December 24, 2010, 01:25:43 PM »
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I have experience with the TTI , it is just different than yours and more up to date

You have a limited outsiders experience that does not come close to our first hand experiences. Your information is by no means up to date or accurate.

seems we disagree on this.



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