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Shadyacres:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---  My daughter cannot stand some of the music she heard while in the program because it reminds her of the tough time she had there and even disagrees with the musicians views.

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A "tough time" is what your daughter was having BEFORE you forced her into a mind rape mill ( assuming for the sake of argument that she really exists ), probably as a result of having at least one completely incompetent and selfish parent.  And I'm with Heretic on John Lennon, anyone Nixon hated that much must have been doing something right.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Shadyacres" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---  My daughter cannot stand some of the music she heard while in the program because it reminds her of the tough time she had there and even disagrees with the musicians views.

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A "tough time" is what your daughter was having BEFORE you forced her into a mind rape mill ( assuming for the sake of argument that she really exists ), probably as a result of having at least one completely incompetent and selfish parent.  And I'm with Heretic on John Lennon, anyone Nixon hated that much must have been doing something right.
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My daughter didnt go to CEDU or a mind rape mill as you call it.  She was having a tough time before she entered a program also, but it is clear that you blindly buy into the hype here on fornits and have never been to a program yourself or you would know that it is hard work and not necessarily the best memory of your life but it wasnt horrible either.  Many of the kids look back on the program they were in and it reminds them of a tough patch in their life.



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none-ya:

--- Quote ---whooter wrote;
"Many of the kids look back on the program they were in and it reminds them of a tough patch in their life.


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Gee wonder why? The art of overstating the obvious? For most of us it reminds us of the absolute worst patch of life. GEEZE!

Shadyacres:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
My daughter didnt go to CEDU or a mind rape mill as you call it.  She was having a tough time before she entered a program also, but it is clear that you blindly buy into the hype here on fornits and have never been to a program yourself or you would know that it is hard work and not necessarily the best memory of your life but it wasnt horrible either.  Many of the kids look back on the program they were in and it reminds them of a tough patch in their life.

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Imagine;
150 kids sitting in church pews, about 90 boys on one side of the room and about 60 girls on the other side.  They sit there for 12 to 16 hours a day, not allowed to move or talk or look in any direction but straight ahead.  If they start to doze off, someone digs knuckles into their back or licks their finger and sticks it in the kids ear (eeww!)
   Imagine being hungry all day every day.  Imagine being terrified, all day every day.  Imagine spending all day praying that one or the other of your parents will come to their senses and come rescue you, only to have those prayers go unanswered every day.  Imagine being “restrained” by a half dozen over excited, untrained teenagers on the hard concrete floor.
   Yes Whooter, I have been in a program.  And yes Whooter, it was horrible.  Horrible might not even be a strong enough word.  Twenty five years have gone by and I still have nightmares about that place.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Shadyacres" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
My daughter didnt go to CEDU or a mind rape mill as you call it.  She was having a tough time before she entered a program also, but it is clear that you blindly buy into the hype here on fornits and have never been to a program yourself or you would know that it is hard work and not necessarily the best memory of your life but it wasnt horrible either.  Many of the kids look back on the program they were in and it reminds them of a tough patch in their life.

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Imagine;
150 kids sitting in church pews, about 90 boys on one side of the room and about 60 girls on the other side.  They sit there for 12 to 16 hours a day, not allowed to move or talk or look in any direction but straight ahead.  If they start to doze off, someone digs knuckles into their back or licks their finger and sticks it in the kids ear (eeww!)
   Imagine being hungry all day every day.  Imagine being terrified, all day every day.  Imagine spending all day praying that one or the other of your parents will come to their senses and come rescue you, only to have those prayers go unanswered every day.  Imagine being “restrained” by a half dozen over excited, untrained teenagers on the hard concrete floor.
   Yes Whooter, I have been in a program.  And yes Whooter, it was horrible.  Horrible might not even be a strong enough word.  Twenty five years have gone by and I still have nightmares about that place.
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Assuming (just for a moment) that you really did attend a program, your account is vastly different than my daughters.  They had great food, she gained weight in spite of being 10 times as active.  Not one restraint was needed ever that she or I could recall or other graduates before and after her on any student.  The only time the kids had to sit for long periods of time was when they were in the class room.  The kids called the place a bubble because they felt safe there, they were never scared or had a reason to be.

How can a person grow and build self esteem, work on family issues, study for PSAT's etc. in an environment that you describe?  Either these programs are vastly different and vary from one to another or you are not being truthful to the readers here about being in a program or the details you described.



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