TROLL CHUM - One Simple Statement That Set Off The Troll

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Pretending to be a research scientist from Canyon Research in order to "add validity" to a fake "study"?  Oh, you shouldn't have.  And you trolled yourself right in the middle of it, too...  Awww.  How precious.  Mr. Phony Canyon Research Scientist.  LOLS!

Whooter has been busy impersonating a research scientist from Canyon Research.  Too much!

Are there any other groups anyone can suggest which would be help translate what Mark witnessed (fraud) by Aspen Education Group into a criminal or civil action?

This would be a good idea and would force many of these organizations like heal, issacorp,cafety and fornits to face the truth about what these studies have uncovered. If there were a civil suit then the studies could no longer be ignored by these people.

It amazes me why they chose to ignore information like this.  Their position is getting weaker and weaker as the industry grows yet they stay on their present course.  Why not try to get out and help some of these kids and their families.  It is a much more satisfying than trying to deceive people and tear them down.

It is because they work in half truths.  they dont want to accept the studies because it goes against what they are working towards.  Any type of study is going to damage them because the studies show the industry to be effective and safe every time.  
If you called Heal or the others and told them you were abused in a program they would take you at face value and report it as truth.  But on the other hand if you provide them with facts and studies they reject it and the information never gets reported.

Thank you for clearing this up. I will not continue to post here if the trolling doesn’t stop.  I came to fornits to discuss the canyon research study and no one here seems to be interested.  The other sites didn’t want the truth either.  Part of me thinks these sites are behind the trolling.  The study is valid and shows the programs to be extemely effective.

Mark DeGroot I couldn’t log in

Even signing "Mark DeGroot" at the bottom.

And again:

MARK: PLEASE CONTACT ISAC, HEAL, AND CAFETY.

I tried all of those organizations and none of them were interested in talking to me.  It seems they only wanted to hear negative things about the industry and disregarded any facts that I presented.  Then I come here to fornits and feel I am getting pushed out by all the trolling.
Why is this?  Why not have a valid discussion?

Mark DeGroot

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And here he's claiming again to be "Mark DeGroot" and feigning interest in Dave Marcus' book which he has pimped here for ears, but as "Mark DeGroot" he is keen to this "fresh information."  LOLS.

Try making a few posts that you were abused in a program and then try making a few posts that says you were helped by one or introduce a study. See if you are welcomed equally
Interesting to say the least.

Maybe it's time to move the only positive program reviews away from the referral pimp sites and just push it all out onto yelp. The good, the bad, the whatever.


Might as well. Consumer reviews and feedback are always fun to read.

Try looking at it from our point of view

Wow. Irony.

Imagine if a Pulitzer prized author decided to investigate the Industry and joins a peer group and lives at a program 24/7 for over a year and then writes a book about his findings.  Wouldn’t you think this would be valuable information?  Do you think it

I don’t understand why people would try to impersonate me and twist my words.  The last post used my name but was not written by me.  I thought by getting a user name this would stop.
The research done by Canyon Research and Consulting was a good solid study.  The people working there are dedicated and professional.  This attempt to damage their reputation and the results is appalling and void of any truth or bases.

And he even squeals with delight as a guest claiming "Whooter is watching from the sidelines."  How rich this is.

You're not fooling anyone, Whooter.  Every time you try to say "Brucie did it" it's a dead giveaway you're lying.  

Let's be clear:  TheWho stole Mark DeGroot's identity here on Fornits.  The guy guy logging in as "Mark DeGroot" is TheWho and then he tries to blame it on "Bruce".  Don't be scammed by TheWho.  And TheWho is John Reuben, so John Reuben does post here, he just does it posing as several other people, the latest is "Mark DeGroot" whose identity he assumed in the name of "adding balance to the discussion".

Sorry Bruce, but your writing style gives you away every time.  You always try to blame all the guest posts on thewho, aka Cindy, aka Rueben.  If it werent so funny it would be sad.
But I am with the other poster.  It is fun to watch and I am sure Whooter is getting a hoot watching all of this from the sidelines lol

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[Whooter]

Nice try, fella, but Psy already weighed in on my behalf.  You, however, are just a liar.  You must hate yourself.  Plus all those nasty PM's you keep sending me.  Self-loathing is evident.

Well lets take a look at the data then shall we:


Whooters Count
Dysfunction Junctions count

Whoa!!!  twice as many as me...... lol.


Your a troll.... hows that footer coming along?  Still obsessed?



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[Whooter]

DJ, Come on.  You just edited out your post that showed you created the Name Mark DeGroot  lol


 I fought you toe to toe, you just exposed yourself again.

Here is your edited posts:
You posed as the Mark Guy first….  Look at the edit stamps from today.

You are too obsessed, DJ:

http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=348020#p348020


http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=347990#p347990



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[Froderik]

Get the fuck out of here, no one believes yer ass!!!

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You're begging for it, bro.  I have a full magazine.  Fair warning.  I already qfted some of your most heinous statements and screenshot your pm obsession.

Do you really want me to unload?  I will if required.  Want to issue any denials before I prove you to be even more of a phony than you ever imagined I could.  Say the word.

[Whooter]

You're begging for it, bro.  I have a full magazine.  Fair warning.  I already qfted some of your most heinous statements and screenshot your pm obsession.

Do you really want me to unload?  I will if required.  Want to issue any denials before I prove you to be even more of a phony than you ever imagined I could.  Say the word.

Oh No,  are you going to put them all in your footer?   lol



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[Whooter]

DJ, Come on.  You just edited out your post that showed you created the Name Mark DeGroot  lol


 I fought you toe to toe, you just exposed yourself again, DJ.

Here is your edited posts:
You posed as the Mark Guy first….  Look at the edit stamps from today.   You edited yours just before I did lol.

You are too obsessed, DJ:

http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=348020#p348020


http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=347990#p347990



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[Eliscu2]

Get the fuck out of here, no one believes yer ass!!!

HOLY SHIT YOU SOUND FUCKIN HOSTILE!!!!!! :notworthy:  ::evil::  :jerry:

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Sorry, pal.  All I did was link to your posts posing as "Mark DeGroot" and quote them for truth so you couldn't change them.  Why did you pose a researcher if the "study" was so great?  Guess it needed a little "Whooter help" to be "credible."  But you shot yourself through and through, boy.

As Frod said, nobody believes you.  If you put a hit counter on your bogus links it would only register your 10,000 plus hits.

1,793 posts in 58 days.  That says it all, buddy.  That says it all.

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Here he is trolling RobertBruce and giggling about how "TheWho" has RB dancing.  

He also tells on himself that he got RB's "treatment issues" from an HLA staff.  Maybe RB will hit him with a subpeona?  Sounds like a lawsuit to me.  More than likely Whooter's defense will be "I was lying."  Yeah, no shit.

John calls everyone who nails his ass to the wall "Bruce"

Its Still......Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say. You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go. I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce. The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.

You should try to change your writting style if you really expect to fool anyone.

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Boy, he love trolling RB.  Here he says that RB is actually TheWho, only when his posts were linked to his account...uh oh...

Just those two.

So the only time you reference bi or gay was when you are logged in as TheWho.  Why did you continue to fight with yourself online using two different id's?  Why did you publically antagonize Dysfunction Junction and make him look foolish.   Trying to say that the more offensive posts where made by someone else doesnt work because there can only be one identity/username called "TheWho" or"RobertBruce" or "psy" etc.  I cant log in and pretend to be psy or Ursus etc.  So you have been very offensive on this board but what you are saying is you were not offensive when logged in as RobertBruce.
Your argument and logic is interesting.

This guy is seriously, seriously mental.

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TheWho also thinks there are kids who benifitted from going to a TBS, I heard him say it on another thread.  If parents believe him we are screwed, we need to convince everyone that no kid has ever improved by going to a TBS.  We cant have someone on fornits saying positive stuff about TBS's.  Lets discredit the bastard and show the other parents he is no good.  Maybe we can make up post about him and spread them around.

Trolling himself in order to play victim, ala SUCK IT.  Nice touch.

And then responding to his self-troll in the very next post trying to play the victim again.

STFU, man, dont just talk about it on an open forum like that, just do it.  Come up with some new stories.  We need to convince these parents he is an abuser and likes to see kids suffer, otherwise they may believe him and his data.

Seriously, why would anyone believe a goddamn word this freak says?

[Anne Bonney]

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Whoops, DJ, caught in another lie.  DJ's MO is falsifying posts to make it seem like I wrote them.  You should ask him to show you a post where Ottawa5 and I were speaking together... hint  (it doesnt exist).  I can show you that one later.

Whooter he does bring a good point regarding your post concerning a son and not a daughter. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Well take a look at your friend DJ’s post and see what is written:
Link to DJ's post

Then compare it to this post on an ASR chat board (Look at the 7th post)... Ha,Ha,Ha caught red handed again:

Link to ASR chat board

This is what your buddy Dysfunction Junction tries to pass along as proof.   He deals with deception and he has a burning need to try to discredit those who disagree with him.  The site was his link originally and he started referring to them and even started a thread based on them.  But when I referenced them he claims they were written by me.

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BIG RED letters declare Whooter has never talked to Ottawa5.  BIG RED letters mean Whooter is truthful!  Posting the same post fifty times means Whooter is more than sure about it! Unless you actually look at his posts. ; )

Deborah, you are a liar.  You know you deleted and altered my posts and allowed others to use them as mis quotes.

I have no way of proving this because I am on this side of the database, but you have zero integrity when you use your moderating power this way.  

I asked that you stop doing this.... I have no way of fighting it or you.

To The Who,  
 
I don't know you, though I have read your posts on occasion.  

As to your assertion that Deborah is a liar: I used to post at this site.  Now I only check it to get information or to find information. For this at least it is useful, by the way, specifically in terms of current hysteria, myths and rumors about various TBS's.

I stopped posting here because my posts were also altered, I can't prove by whom, but certainly not by me.  Many times.  And in hideous ways.  

No interest at all in getting into a big fight with the regulars here: I know when I'm dealing with people who are beyond reason.  Very likely this post will get at least some of them all frantic and perhaps start  up their little schtick about me being something akin to the Great Satan.

And they will refer back to posts I never wrote to prove it.  

Nobody cares much I don't think, least of all me.  But to the Who: when I stumbled onto your post as quoted previously, I thought I'd just go ahead and validate the fact that these kinds of things do happen here.   Don't let anyone convince you differently.

Which is why nobody (out side of the groupthink crew that you're, for some reason, trying to civilize) cares about this site except as a source of incidental info.  

Or counts it as being relevant to anything.

Ottawa

Thank you, Ottawa[/size], for validating what is happening here.  It is tough being one against many....especially when they are holding all the cards and can change your words and then turn them against you.
Tough crowd here!!

[Troll Control]

"TheWho.  Getting caught phonying up people's quotes since 2005."  This should be Whooter's advertising slogan.

Just copy what TheWho wrote (and claimed Deb wrote it :lol: ) and plug it into the search feature and you get exactly two hits, the very first one (the first place those words have ever appeared in the database; the second is a quote of TheWho's post in the web admin forum) is TheWho's post.  

    What a liar!  And caught and burned again!  

Proof's in the pudding!  TheWho was caught again!  ha,ha,ha...

Try to take it easy, Who.  Digging your hole deeper by phonying up quotes only hurts your credibility more Ha, ha, ha...

Game over.  Time to move on to some other WhoLies...