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Do Programs Lie?
Gonzotherapy:
http://www.wturley.com/Recent-Filings/2 ... Claims.pdf
This thread is dedicated to exposing the lies told by programs. This includes all aspects and entities including escort services, consulting firms, screening facilities, etc...
The above link is a lawsuit filed against the WWASPS organization, in it are many allegations of abuse, as well as how the organizations fooled parents into believing what they were doing was right and safe for their child.
Please post here and provide links or information of lies that were told, and first hand accounts of your experience, or proof that what was said is in fact a lie.
A few of the lies I experienced -- Browning Academy was a licensed and accredited school -- LIE
-- Brightway was a licensed medical facility -- LIE
-- Program staff were licensed/professional counselors -- LIE
My hope here is to provide parents looking to send their child to one of these programs with tools to identify warning signs that the facility they may be considering is telling them the same lies my parents were told.
Gonzotherapy:
In particular if anyone has any proof of lies told by the program Aspen Education, I would love to see if they have told any lies to parents and or students.
http://ficanetwork.blogspot.com/search/ ... on%20Group
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Gonzotherapy" ---My hope here is to provide parents looking to send their child to one of these programs with tools to identify warning signs that the facility they may be considering is telling them the same lies my parents were told.
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To answer your question as to “Do programs Lie?” The answer is “Yes” some of them do. As with all businesses the customers must heed to the words “Buyer Beware”.
Some advice to parents is to ask to speak with other parents and children who have been through the program. This way you can bypass any motive to place your child unnecessarily and still get first hand information and a more truthful view point.
Also I think that parents should get a third independent opinion before even considering placement to see if your child needs to be placed and/or would do well in a structured environment. The third party may also have heard of the programs you are considering and warn you if they have a bad reputation.
Try to search for groups on line who have set up alumni pages on facebook /myspace. Many of these kids speak about their experiences and you will get a feel for the program from the child’s perspective.
Some of the Alumni Pages look like this:
Alumni/Parents Info
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Gonzotherapy:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---To answer your question as to “Do programs Lie?” The answer is “Yes” some of them do. As with all businesses the customers must heed to the words “Buyer Beware”.
Some advice to parents is to ask to speak with other parents and children who have been through the program. This way you can bypass any motive to place your child unnecessarily and still get first hand information and a more truthful view point.
Also I think that parents should get a third independent opinion before even considering placement to see if your child needs to be placed and/or would do well in a structured environment. The third party may also have heard of the programs you are considering and warn you if they have a bad reputation.
Try to search for groups on line who have set up alumni pages on facebook /myspace. Many of these kids speak about their experiences and you will get a feel for the program from the child’s perspective.
Some of the Alumni Pages look like this:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" --- I have told lies myself from time to time.
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viewtopic.php?f=77&t=30975#p374568
Just so we are clear, Whooter makes money off of these programs so this information may not be the most objective. Whooter is admittedly a liar and has a vested monetary interest in programs, thank you Whooter for giving a clear example of the manipulation and lies programs are capable of.
Whooter:
The following thread shows proof that some programs lied. You will also see that there hasn’t been anything reported since 2008, on this site, which is good sign that the lies are not systemic or indicative to the industry as a whole.
Link
A Heads-up to parents/Readers: Please check any links carefully that are presented by Gonzotherapy regarding alleged proof that programs lie.
Just to be fair to the people reading this thread you should all be aware that the poster, Gonzotherapy, has been posting here on fornits under several user names claiming to have attended programs. He has been caught in several lies. So I would be careful about any facts that he presents and check the links carefully on this thread.
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