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More Muslim Media Bullshit
Anne Bonney:
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--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---. . . but I just don't think we all need to panic every time we see someone that's dressed in "Muslim garb"?
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He didn't say anyone should - not even close.
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I read his response and I really think you're deluding yourself if you think he didn't mean that he was afraid.
Froderik:
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--- Quote from: "Froderik" --- Better safe than sorry.
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I'm really surprised to hear you say that.
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Why? In the context of my post it makes sense.
After what happened on 911, can you blame the guy for being afraid to get on that plane...?
Anne Bonney:
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--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Froderik" --- Better safe than sorry.
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I'm really surprised to hear you say that.
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Why? In the context of my post it makes sense.
After what happened on 911, can you blame the guy for being afraid to get on that plane...?
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Well, blame isn't the word I'd use, but I've flown plenty since then and flown with "those people" and it hasn't really given me cause for concern. But then again, it appears that I've had more encounters with Muslims that aren't "extremists". I've talked at length with them about some very touchy issues. I started out being afraid, but once I listened, researched and learned a little more about not only their religion but about Christianity and Judaism as well, I started to appreciate even more the value of a secular society. Something that Muslims in the Middle East don't enjoy. Like I said....for them it's kinda like living in a cult they can't escape. Like group. If they're not bashing America (over there), they're "stood up" and "confronted" only in their case they're very likely killed for going against the powers that be.
Stonewall:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Froderik" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Froderik" --- Better safe than sorry.
--- End quote ---
I'm really surprised to hear you say that.
--- End quote ---
Why? In the context of my post it makes sense.
After what happened on 911, can you blame the guy for being afraid to get on that plane...?
--- End quote ---
Well, blame isn't the word I'd use, but I've flown plenty since then and flown with "those people" and it hasn't really given me cause for concern. But then again, it appears that I've had more encounters with Muslims that aren't "extremists". I've talked at length with them about some very touchy issues. I started out being afraid, but once I listened, researched and learned a little more about not only their religion but about Christianity and Judaism as well, I started to appreciate even more the value of a secular society. Something that Muslims in the Middle East don't enjoy. Like I said....for them it's kinda like living in a cult they can't escape. Like group. If they're not bashing America (over there), they're "stood up" and "confronted" only in their case they're very likely killed for going against the powers that be.
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Anne,
What is a Muslim Extremist?
A moderate Muslim is one who... this is my opinion... a Muslim who follows what Muhammad taught. Without adding to it or misrepresenting it, for whatever reason.
After 9/11, Islam perked my interest... I watched on TV the talking heads who, they always put opposites against each other... as they do with every subject, and I guess they expect us to pick whatever side we want to believe. I did not know what to believe. And, I have always been one to follow politics and Foreign Policy. The Soviets took up most of my time when I considered the world, the Cold War being as it was. So, I never really studied Islam. There were bigger fish to fry.
After 9/11 I had to take a look at this situation. We had won the Cold War and we had a basically peaceful 1990's. It was a time to relax a bit. So, after the attacks I was not getting anything from the news that satisfied me in any way whatsoever. Like I said, you could believe whatever you wanted, the media gave you that choice... I don't think they do so anymore, in regard to Islam.
So, I studied the subject. I went to Muslims... I learned Islam from Muslims. It took me a couple years to grasp Islam. Really understand it.
It is like studying the U.S. Constitution. It takes time to figure out how an Imam or Islamic Cleric reaches a decision. What they base their findings on. Islam is a very legalistic Ideology. When I talk to people who are interested about learning Islam I always counsel them to go into it thinking "law".
In our system a moderate would be someone whose opinion reflects what the founders of this country meant when they wrote the Constitution, and whatever amendments to it, the generation who added the amendment what they thought it meant when they voted for it.
An extremist, in our system, would be someone who dissembles what our forefathers meant. Deceives for their own gain. Even if no harm is meant. A moderate would be someone who fairly interprets the text.
Unfortunately, and when I began my study of Islam I expected a different result... unfortunately my studies led me to understand that Al Qaeda are the Moderate Muslims. The fairly interpret the text.
That is not the conclusion I wanted to arrive at...
BuzzKill:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "BuzzKill" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---. . . but I just don't think we all need to panic every time we see someone that's dressed in "Muslim garb"?
--- End quote ---
He didn't say anyone should - not even close.
--- End quote ---
I read his response and I really think you're deluding yourself if you think he didn't mean that he was afraid.
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Concerned/worried (afraid if you like) but he didn't say we all need to panic every time we see someone dressed in Muslim garb tho - nothing even close to that. What he said was rational and completely understandable and anyone who claims they wouldn't feel the same is deluding themselves.
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