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The Tea Party movement
Froderik:
In a shocking development, people who knew the shooter are saying he was a liberal.
In 1995, Clinton then tried to blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh, for the terrorist bombing. The tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping to ensure a second Clinton term. The line we will see for the next few weeks is going to be that rhetoric and tone of the message from the Tea Party is responsible for this attack. Let’s ignore the fact that this guy was not only nuts, but also a card carrying liberal.
http://www.businessinsider.com/woman-wh ... 007-2011-1
The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by blaming them for this.
The activist old media will work overtime to lay the blame for the tragic shooting in Arizona at the feet of conservatives because that is the only template they have. They will ignore the facts of the case and they will pull out their Oklahoma City Bombing playbook.
The blood had not been wiped up from the scene before Keith Olbermann and others began blasting conservatives. It’s both predictable and reprehensible for Olbermann to try to make political hay out of this, and do it before we know so few of the facts in the case:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 1#40983401
Immediately after Congressman Gabrielle Giffords was shot, the left wing went into over drive to try and blame the Tea Party for the shooting. There was one minor problem -- there was no evidence.
In fact, in the hours after the shooting, the evidence began to pile up that Jared Loughner was in fact a liberal. Former classmates tweeted about his beliefs. He was a pot head who was kicked out of community college because he was such a disturbed individual. After twenty-four hours of ripping the Internet apart, the liberals are beside themselves with anger because they cannot tie Loughner to the Tea Party movement.
But have no fear, when the liberals really need help, they can count on the Department of Homeland Security.
DHS has magically come up with a report that says he has “ties” to an anti Semitic, anti-government group that has ads for tea party groups on its front page. WOW! There is a legal term for this kind of stuff. It is MSU. That stands for makin’ stuff up!
The leftist Politico.com reported that the Department of Homeland Security had a memo that said Loughner is “possibly linked” to a group called American Renaissance.
This is the same Department of Homeland Security that issued the infamous report on April 14, 2009, a day before the great Tax Day tea parties, warning of an upswing in “right wing extremism.” This is the same Department of Homeland Security, who’s Secretary, Janet Napolitano, claimed the border is secure and the system worked, after the underwear bomber tried to blow up a flight on Christmas day, 2009.
The group, American Renaissance, says they have no record of Loughner ever being associated or involved with them.
The obvious question that should be asked is, how about at least some evidence?
All that is there is some, at best, speculation. Of course, the liberal media and the blogosphere are quite happy to run with the story that fits their story line.
The liberal hate group, the Southern Poverty Law Center went through convolutions to try and claim that Jared Loughner was some kind of conservative. The Huffington Post ate that up and immediately posted the story online.
This is liberal thought and liberal journalism at its best. Facts and the truth are ignored in favor of speculation that supports the story they want to believe.
When this nightmare first began, Tea Party Nation decided to get out early and fight because we knew this is what would happen. Regardless of the facts, the left would try to tie this to the Tea Party movement. They are pushing back now and we need everyone in this movement to help fight the smear the liberals are trying to put out.
Remember, the shooter was a 'liberal' lunatic.
One more tidbit: The shooter evidently held a grudge against the congresswoman since 2007 (before anyone ever heard of Sarah Palin). It was then that he attended one of her meetings and asked her a goofy question (roughly: "If words have no meaning, what is government?") When she didn't answer him because she didn't know what he meant, it infuriated him & he has been obsessing about it ever since, and despising her because he thinks she's stupid. So exactly how does Palin figure into this? And why does she evoke such a vehement reaction from leftists? (Ironically, they are doing just what they accuse her and other conservatives of doing.)
Whooter:
It amazes me how scared people are of Sarah Palin. She would had been last years news if the Democrats had left her alone. But they put her in the spot light, go figure. I hope that they do continue to try to blame the Tea Party for the shooting because it really makes them look foolish and desperate. Even the Democrats have given in to the realization that Obama is a one term president and we need some real change in the White House. Someone who can get us back on track and kick start the economy with jobs instead of taxation and get us out of Afghanistan.
Cant wait for 2012.
seamus:
See what I mean? I can see umpteen directions for how this will get spun.And by a cast of several! Somebodys gonna whine about gun control....somebody will rebuke that....on and on, and the more opinion being played as fact there is the more of the truth will get lost.It never fails to amaze/disgust me. ::deadhorse::
Froderik:
--- Quote from: "seamus" ---See what I mean? I can see umpteen directions for how this will get spun.And by a cast of several! Somebodys gonna whine about gun control....somebody will rebuke that....
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Yup, A NY Rep. is already introducing a gun control bill in Congress.
I guess she wants to take advantage of the situation, but I bet she will not be criticized for it.... :flame: :fuckoff: ::unhappy::
And on a somewhat relative note:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/29/palin.noose/
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---It amazes me how scared people are of Sarah Palin.
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I think you're mistaking ridicule for fear.
--- Quote --- She would had been last years news if the Democrats had left her alone. But they put her in the spot light, go figure.
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Uh huh....quit her job MIDTERM so she could make tons of $$ giving speeches (way to take care of your constituents there babe), then stars in her own reality show (which is almost physically painful to watch). But it's the Dems that have kept her in the media spotlight. Ok.
--- Quote --- I hope that they do continue to try to blame the Tea Party for the shooting because it really makes them look foolish and desperate.
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I don't know if there's anyone to blame, save for the psycho that actually shot. I've heard that people that went to college with him about 3 years ago before he was kicked out said he was a stoner and an atheist but I've heard other comments about how his views had morphed into some white separatist movement. No confirmation either way so, who knows. However, it doesn't excuse the extreme rhetoric coming out of the Tea Party candidates.....there's a difference between some random left-wing blogger saying stupid stuff and people who actually speak for a party. We have a former candidate for Vice President putting up crosshairs on specific district representatives, then when asked about it says "don't retreat, reload" & the fact that they didn't take it down until this last Saturday AND now they're trying to say they were "survey marks", not crosshairs - says something. And don't forget, Gifford had her office vandalized shortly after Palin's crosshairs pic went up and has received a stream of death threats, as did many other of Palin's crosshairs targets.
Then there's Sharron Angle (R-NV) talking about "taking Harry Reid out" with "second amendment remedies"....
“You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. And in fact, Thomas Jefferson said it’s good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years.”
“I hope that’s not where we’re going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying, ‘my goodness what can we do to turn this country around?’ I’ll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.”
Continue reading on Examiner.com: Sharron Angle: "second amendment remedies" - Las Vegas Democrat | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-las ... z1Af2zPlDc
Those people actually speak for the Republican party (Tea Party) and, IMHO, need to be a tad more careful with the words they choose to use. Note.....this does NOT mean I'm advocating for censorship of ANY kind. Just that dolts like Palin & Angle need to think before they speak. A difficult task for Saint Sarah, I know, but still.
--- Quote --- Someone who can get us back on track and kick start the economy with jobs
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I'm disappointed in a lot of things he's done (or rather, hasn't done), but ya gotta give credit where credit is due.
--- Quote --- get us out of Afghanistan.
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:nods:
On another note.....way to go Grandma!!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162- ... 04083.html
TUCSON, Ariz. (CBS/KPHO/AP) Four people are being hailed as heroes after Saturday's mass shooting in Tucson that left six dead and 14 others wounded, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
PICTURES: Arizona Shooting Victims
Daniel Hernandez used his hands to stop the bleeding from congresswoman's head. Roger Salzgeber and Joseph Zamudio tackled the suspect, Jared Loughner. But it was a 61-year-old woman who grabbed the magazine and handgun from the gunman that witnesses said helped prevent further tragedy.
"It was one shot, and then a moment with nothing, and then a series of shots," Patricia Maisch, of Tucson, told CBS affiliate KPHO. "I saw him coming down the line of chairs there, in front of the Safeway, just shooting people."
Two men tackled the gunman, but he could have done more damage. He still had the gun in his hand as he laid face-to-face with Maisch, she said.
"I was waiting to be shot, I was wondering how it was gonna feel to be shot," she told the station.
Maisch said she didn't stop to think of her own safety, she didn't hesitate for a second.
"I immediately knelt up over him, because he was right there almost on top of me, and the gun was in his right hand," she said.
She said she grabbed the 9mm handgun and the fully loaded magazine he took out of his pocket, disarming him before he could inflict more damage.
Even after all she's done, Maisch remained humble. She credits the two men who took the shooter down, rather than patting herself on the back. Witnesses said Maisch was screaming, "give me the gun" as she knelt over the gunman.
She said she doesn't remember what she said, but that she'll never forget that tragic day.
A federal judge, a congressional aide and a young girl were among the six people killed, while Giffords and 13 others were injured in the bursts of gunfire outside a Tucson supermarket.
Suspect Jared Loughner, 22, will face a federal court hearing Monday afternoon. Loughner is charged with one count of attempted assassination of a member of Congress, two counts of killing an employee of the federal government and two counts of attempting to kill a federal employee. More charges are expected.
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