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The Tea Party movement
Shadyacres:
And they hate puppies!
http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/ ... uppy-mills
Froderik:
--- Quote from: "Shadyacres" ---The Tea Party Movement was created and is supported by the ultra rich, most notoriously the Koch brothers. Do we ever hear the Tea Party advocate a higher minimum wage? Unionization? It seems to me that a "grassroots" movement would be more concerned about the plight of common Americans.
http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/ ... ch-royalty
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Ah well. Thanks for the contributions from everyone. I was hoping for a bit more from the Tea Party. I am somewhat dismayed to learn some of these truths about them. I maintain that there needs to be, now more than ever, a viable alternative to the 'beast with two heads.'
heretik:
--- Quote from: "Shadyacres" ---The Tea Party Movement was created and is supported by the ultra rich, most notoriously the Koch brothers. Do we ever hear the Tea Party advocate a higher minimum wage? Unionization? It seems to me that a "grassroots" movement would be more concerned about the plight of common Americans.
http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/ ... ch-royalty
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I think the Republican Party took another look at what happened to the first Bush in 1992, only it was one of their own that did them in, Ross Perot. Perot hijacked precious votes Bush needed to beat Clinton. If we all remember Perot was talking fiscal responsibility and small gov't.
Well why not this time let it work for you. Make up this factitious Party, "Tea Party" say were Libertarians/Independents (in fact were 98% Republican with their conservative values) and preach small Gov't, smart spending, no taxes, no health care, big business should not be taxed nor there leaders and so on.
This way you hedge your bet, get all the votes.
Fine this is good. Just remember in 2 years when were voting for a President again you had better had accomplished what you said you were in the House of Representatives (you will now control).
I doubt it.
The Koch bros. saw their brethren and themselves being reined in and could not have any of this.
If you actually look at what O'Bama has done since being in office you will note it is hardly anything. Wall Street was not reined in as promised, health care reforms will not happened for another few years if at all, stimulus package was a great way for companies to get billions and put it in the financial institution of their choosing to collect on the favorable interest rates to run their companies, then in a year or so give back the billions and say look at me, I paid it back early.
We are screwed from both sides of the aisle.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Shadyacres" ---The Tea Party Movement was created and is supported by the ultra rich, most notoriously the Koch brothers. Do we ever hear the Tea Party advocate a higher minimum wage? Unionization? It seems to me that a "grassroots" movement would be more concerned about the plight of common Americans.
http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/ ... ch-royalty
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Yup, I tried talking about that a couple of times on the first page of this thread.
--- Quote from: "Heretik" ---The Koch bros. saw their brethren and themselves being reined in and could not have any of this.
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That's pretty much it. We saw what deregulation of Wall St. did (Enron, Madoff, Golden Parachutes etc.) and the Koch's and the rest of the uber-rich started getting scared that they'd have to start answering for their actions so they started this "grass roots" ::) movement, played to their real base (neocons) and played off the fears of people. They talk a big game about small government, but really only want it to apply to their financial interests. They could give a shit about the average American and they're completely happy to send the government into our personal lives.
Grass roots my ass! It's nothing but Astroturfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
Astroturfing denotes political, advertising, or public relations campaigns that are formally planned by an organization, but are disguised as spontaneous, popular "grassroots" behavior. The term refers to AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to look like natural grass.
The goal of such campaigns is to disguise the efforts of a political or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by an individual promoting a personal agenda, or highly organized professional groups with money from large corporations, unions, non-profits, or activist organizations. Very often, the efforts are conducted by political consultants who also specialize in opposition research. Beneficiaries are not "grass root" campaigners but distant organizations that orchestrate such campaigns.
heretik:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Shadyacres" ---The Tea Party Movement was created and is supported by the ultra rich, most notoriously the Koch brothers. Do we ever hear the Tea Party advocate a higher minimum wage? Unionization? It seems to me that a "grassroots" movement would be more concerned about the plight of common Americans.
http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/ ... ch-royalty
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Yup, I tried talking about that a couple of times on the first page of this thread.
--- Quote from: "Heretik" ---The Koch bros. saw their brethren and themselves being reined in and could not have any of this.
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That's pretty much it. We saw what deregulation of Wall St. did (Enron, Madoff, Golden Parachutes etc.) and the Koch's and the rest of the uber-rich started getting scared that they'd have to start answering for their actions so they started this "grass roots" ::) movement, played to their real base (neocons) and played off the fears of people. They talk a big game about small government, but really only want it to apply to their financial interests. They could give a shit about the average American and they're completely happy to send the government into our personal lives.
Grass roots my ass! It's nothing but Astroturfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
Astroturfing denotes political, advertising, or public relations campaigns that are formally planned by an organization, but are disguised as spontaneous, popular "grassroots" behavior. The term refers to AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to look like natural grass.
The goal of such campaigns is to disguise the efforts of a political or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by an individual promoting a personal agenda, or highly organized professional groups with money from large corporations, unions, non-profits, or activist organizations. Very often, the efforts are conducted by political consultants who also specialize in opposition research. Beneficiaries are not "grass root" campaigners but distant organizations that orchestrate such campaigns.
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