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Reversing Operant Conditioning?

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Maximilian:
Therapists don't care about you, only the check you hand them after they spend an hour pretending to listen and care about what you told them. Therapists exist because people like to talk about themselves, and are willing to pay someone to sit there and listen to them. It's considered rude to talk to people about yourself for such lengths of time, and friends and family are usually unwilling to sit through such a self indulgence. I'm surprised how much education is required to basically sit there in an office and nod and say, why do you think that is?

I helped get over my own PTSD from the program by finding a local support group of survivors. We meet every week at the local church, and it has done wonders to help me get back to being normal. When I got out of the program I was telling everybody how great it felt to be sober and not have to be the same troubled person I was, but eventually I realized this was brainwashing and so I went back to my old ways of using drugs and not giving a shit about anything, and things have been better ever since.

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Maximilian" ---Therapists don't care about you, only the check you hand them after they spend an hour pretending to listen and care about what you told them. Therapists exist because people like to talk about themselves, and are willing to pay someone to sit there and listen to them. It's considered rude to talk to people about yourself for such lengths of time, and friends and family are usually unwilling to sit through such a self indulgence. I'm surprised how much education is required to basically sit there in an office and nod and say, why do you think that is?
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And that's different from programs.......how?

Oh, wait.   Therapy is voluntary and patients have rights.  Programs are forced and kids have no rights.  Got it.

Inculcated:
@Frod,
Perhaps you missed the details within Asha-Kun’s posts about how their last therapist was blatantly judgmental about how their program experience was. Or perhaps you missed the reading recommendations (ie Knowledge is power) or perhaps you missed the later developing subtler theme of getting loved ones to appreciate the effects of program abuses that aren’t as readily understood as say violence, rape or death. What is that which causes some of those lasting effects? Oh, right among them operant conditioning.
Hasn’t it been you who I have seen post from time to time about PTSD? You could try some of the reading recommendations such as T&R.  "Getting some understanding of how they work has been helpful” is a good approximation of advice Psy had to offer me some time ago, and it’s been helpful. You could try reading Releasing the Bonds and come away with a lot, though not all of it would pertain to you…That would however briefly cut in to your time of tossing about Jim Jones quotes and chiming in when thread participants somehow fail to impress you/ entertain you. Maybe that’s not such a bad thing.

Froderik:

--- Quote from: "Inculcated" ---What is that which causes some of those lasting effects? Oh, right among them operant conditioning
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Well, duh...I guess.


--- Quote ---Hasn’t it been you who I have seen post from time to time about PTSD? You could try some of the reading recommendations such as T&R. "Getting some understanding of how they work has been helpful” is a good approximation of advice Psy had to offer me some time ago, and it’s been helpful. You could try reading Releasing the Bonds and come away with a lot, though not all of it would pertain to you…
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Yes, that would be me.

What is T&R? (In the blowgram, that stood for "talk and responsibilites.")

I may check out Releasing The Bonds, thanks for the recommendation.

Samara:
Inculcated ~ I think I overstated my post.  I can't say they totally related - they were horrified. I only discussed it with people who have a little more depth or morbid curiosity than the average person.  I was very selective in who I told.

I do not believe most therapists are equipped to deal with issues, such as TBS related trauma. We're still in the dark ages.

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