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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2010, 04:52:39 PM »
Comments left for the above article, "Atlanta Megachurch Pastor Accused of Sexual Coercion" (by Madison Gray; Sept. 22, 2010; Time):


ThomasMc 5 days ago, 11:04:30
    The more any Christian rails against gays, the more you can be sure that he secretly IS one!
    Tracy 5 days ago, 21:31:25
      That's not necessarily true ThomasMc.
    Yella MuscLean 4 days ago, 14:07:36
      Truth hurts, Tracy? It's always the ones who protest the most who are doing it in the dark! You're not fooling anyone.
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    GraceWilliams 5 days ago, 11:04:34
      A song by Queen comes to mind (somewhat ironically) Atlanta Megachurch Pastor Accused of Sexual Coercion via @TIME
    Diana Bass 5 days ago, 11:30:00
      Nu day, 2 nu religion scandals: Sex & Money: via @TIME &
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    LaVrai - The Truth 5 days ago, 11:57:22
      Time compares Bishop Eddie Long To Ted Haggard via @TIME
    Lou Cristello 5 days ago, 12:26:04
      Wow, some homosexuals are pretty sneaky, huh? Infiltrating churches, legislative bodies and social organizations in order to search for prey. Seems to happen quite often. And some people wonder why groups like the Boy Scouts don't want homosexuals as leaders. It'd be like letting a fox into a chicken coop.
    supertrw 5 days ago, 12:33:53
      Why am I NOT SURPRIZED! BECAUSE, time & time again we discover that the ones that "protest the most" are "ALMOST ALWAYS" HIPPOCRATES, and this time is no different. Now, this preacher is trying to do further damage to these young men by calling their character into question. GIVE ME A BREAK! Even if these men do have problems now, it is probably because of what HE did to them. Teenagers have a difficult time figuring things out even in the best of circumstances, so twisting their heads into further confusion and mistrust, is nothing short of EVIL. Next thing he'll be saying is that the DEVIL made him do it! For those that still might doubt the young men's story think about this...Do you honestly believe that a preacher of his magnitude would take young men on trips and pay their college tuition without their being "other motives". HIGHLY UNLIKELY! I hope he gets drummed out of his MEGA CHURCH AND gets his MEGA BUTT sued big time. That way these young men can get the counseling they need to move past this. Whether they are even actually gay themselves or not is besides the question too. He probably targeted them because HE THOUGHT they were actually gay, but they could have just been vulnerable kids looking for love, possibly even "fatherly love". UNFORTUNATLY, all they found was LUST in the WRONG MAN.
    Tracy 5 days ago, 21:30:09
      I totally agree with u Cristello. I applaud the Boy Scouts of America on taking a stance to protect our boys from pederasts. Homosexuality is a sin and homosexuals should to come to church for support and work on being delivered from their sexual urges. The Word of God is clear: homosexuality is a detestable act and homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. It is written in the new testament. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
    Don Guise 4 days ago, 03:12:53
      So basically just about *ANY* virulently anti-gay scumbag out there, we can reasonably conclude, is in fact gay.  
       
      Newt Gingrich looks like a swallower.
    Don Guise 4 days ago, 03:13:35
      p.s. "LONGFELLOW" youth blahblahblah??  really.
    Brigitte Bennerson 4 days ago, 10:58:45
      My problem with this situation is that this man is a pastor, a husband, a father of four, and most importantly, an advocate against homosexuality. There are now three individual young men that he is accused of starting a relationship with when they were children, yet I have not heard one person say that regardless of Atlanta's consent law at the age of 16, this pastor was wrong for having a sexual relationship with the children that he was supposed to be healing and leading. Worst of all, he is a married man with four children of his own!  It is shameful to think that we are here to protect the young, yet we never question the behavior or intent of the adults in authoritative positions amongst our children; we see the BLING, and we forget what is important. In addition, we are so quick to call our children liars when they come forward with information about despicable behavior such as those the three young men exposed. It is no wonder we have millions of sexually abused children who are silenced by their attacker, making them victims for a second time. I believe these young men! I also believe that the number of victims will grow! Predators like Pastor Long tend to become serial in their behavior when they see that they are not getting caught, and it was not coincidental that he situated himself in that program that he created for young men; the same program that he picked his victims from. Anyway, this is no surprise because those who speak the loudest against the gay community are always the ones with the greatest indulgence in its activities.
    Tamare Reese 4 days ago, 16:27:19
      Homosexuality a sin? Should we even consider him a homosexual, if he is in fact guilty? As a homosexual woman I stand against the allegations being applied to my lifestyle. Tracy, I am a woman who loves woman. I don't have sex, and I am in a relationship right now where I am celibate. I love my girlfriend, and gay relationships in themselves, true gay relationships, are more about expectance, love, and understanding more than anything else. If anything he is more heterosexual than gay. I say this because he is married with children and is accused of cheating on his wife with young boys. In my eyes that makes me question the motives of a heterosexual, not a homosexual. Homosexuality is a lifestyle, not a freak fest and not a sex based lustful act. Sp spare m the scriptures. I love GOD, I do, and I am a very spiritual woman, things like these, however, make me glad I don't live in the church and worship everything a pastor says rather than my GOD, and my body, and my attractions.  
      Y'all heteros need to get it together.
    La Dwan Exson-Peete 3 days ago, 01:54:41
      This story is sad, however nothing surprises me these days.  Many people, especially the ones that are in the public eye are often living double lives.  Thats why u can't put all your trust in on person...God want us to put him first and no man before him.  
      Not only is he cheating on his wife, his gay and a child molester.  Wow!!!!  he doesn't worship God, he just there for a cover up and a paycheck, may I add a nice six figure paycheck!!!!!  He's a sheep in wolves clothing :)
    Brigitte Bennerson 3 days ago, 11:59:16
      Pastor Long's sexuality is not at question here; his behavior is. I am heterosexual, but I don't bash or question anyone's sexuality because I don't care about that. People's character is the measurement I use to decide whether I want to be around them or not.  

      I am a big advocate for children, and I think that every adult should have his/her  heart and mind set on protecting the innocent. I am SICK AND TIRED of turning on the news and hearing how many children were sexually abused by the people who should be protecting them. What's more sickening to me is that other people knew what was going on, but they did nothing! I AM SICK OF THIS! IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM! WHEN ARE WE GOING TO TAKE A STAND AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR CHILDREN?


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    Men allege sexual coercion by prominent Atlanta pastor
    « Reply #16 on: September 27, 2010, 05:15:02 PM »
    At least two more video news clips at the link...

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    Men allege sexual coercion by prominent Atlanta pastor
    By the CNN Wire Staff
    September 21, 2010 8:06 p.m. EDT


    Video news coverage: Prominent pastor accused of coercion

      STORY HIGHLIGHTS

      • NEW: Long spokesman denies charges, calls them "shakedown" and "retaliation"
        [li]Two men file lawsuits against Atlanta-area pastor Eddie Long
      • One suit alleges that Long used his position to coerce sex
      • The Southern Poverty Law Center had called pastor "virulently homophobic"
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      See CNN's profile of Bishop Eddie Long. See PDFs of lawsuits filed by Maurice Robinson and Anthony Flagg.

      (CNN) -- Two Georgia men have filed a lawsuit claiming that prominent Atlanta, Georgia, pastor Eddie Long coerced them into sex.

      The suits, filed Tuesday in DeKalb County, Georgia, allege that Long used his position as a spiritual authority and bishop to coerce young male members and employees of his New Birth Missionary Baptist Church into sex.

      A spokesman for Long told CNN on Wednesday that the allegations are "a case of retaliation and a shakedown for money by men with some serious credibility issues."

      Long "categorically and adamantly denies these allegations," said spokesman Art Franklin.

      "Defendant Long has a pattern and practice of singling out a select group of young male church members and using his authority as Bishop over them to ultimately bring them to a point of engaging in a sexual relationship," the suits allege.

      Long is considered one of the nation's top black preachers. His church has more 25,000 members, according to the suit, and was the site of Coretta Scott King's 2006 funeral, attended by then-President George W. Bush and three previous presidents. King was the widow of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

      The pastor took one plaintiff, Anthony Flagg, 21, on overnight trips to a half-dozen American cities in recent years, Flagg's suit alleges.

      "Long shared a bedroom and engaged in intimate sexual contact with plaintiff Flagg including kissing, massaging, masturbating of plaintiff Flagg by defendant Long and oral sexual contact," the suit says.

      Long took the other plaintiff, Maurice Murray Robinson, 20, to Auckland, New Zealand, in October 2008 for his 18th birthday and engaged in oral sex with him, Robinson's suit alleges.

      "Following the New Zealand Trip, Defendant Long regularly engaged in sexual touching, and other sexual acts with Plaintiff Robinson," Robinson's suit alleges.

      "It is very unfortunate that someone has taken this course of action," Franklin, Long's spokesman, said Tuesday. "Our law firm will be able to respond once attorneys have had an opportunity to review the lawsuit."

      Long frequently denounces homosexual behavior. A 2007 article in the Southern Poverty Law Center's magazine called him "one of the most virulently homophobic black leaders in the religiously based anti-gay movement."

      "Everybody knows that a bishop or church pastor ... cannot have any sort of sexual relations or sexual relationship with one of your parishioners," the lawyer, B.J. Bernstein, said at a news conference Tuesday evening. "And even worse to have it with two young men who trusted him and got to know him at a very young age."

      Bernstein said she has alerted federal authorities about the allegations.

      In June, Robinson was arrested and charged with burglary in connection with a break-in to Long's office. An iPhone, iPad and other items -- more than $1,300 worth -- were taken from the office, according to the police report.

      On Tuesday, Bernstein said the theft was Robinson's attempt to retaliate against the pastor. She said that once Robinson began telling others about his experience with Long, "he realized he wasn't the only one."

      "It made [Robinson] angry," she said.

      Both plaintiffs said the pastor, his church and church employees gave them cash and lavish gifts that ranged from cars to college tuition.

      The suits also said that Long framed the sexual relationships as religious in nature.

      The suits allege that Long chose the plaintiffs to be his "Spiritual Sons," a program that allegedly includes other young men from the church.

      "Spiritual Sons are taken on public and private jets to U.S. and international destinations, housed in luxury hotels and given access to numerous celebrities including entertainment stars and politicians," the suit alleges.

      Flagg moved into a home owned by another New Birth pastor when he was a high school junior, according to the suit, where Long would sometimes share a bed with him. Flagg was eventually put on the church's payroll, his suit alleges, with Long personally delivering his checks.

      Flagg's suit says that Long presided over a spiritual "covenant" ceremony between the two of them.

      "It was essentially a marriage ceremony, with candles, exchange of jewelry, and biblical quotes," Bernstein said Tuesday. "The bishop [told] him I will always have your back and you will always have mine."

      Robinson's suit alleges that "Defendant Long would use Holy Scripture to discuss and justify the intimate relationship between himself and Plaintiff Robinson."

      The lawsuits are seeking unspecified amounts of punitive damages from Long on various counts, ranging from negligence to breach of fiduciary duty.

      The suits allege that various staff members working for Long, his church and the Longfellows Academy -- which the suit describes as an offshoot ministry of New Birth -- "knew of Defendant Long's sexually inappropriate conduct and did nothing to warn or protect [the plaintiffs]."

      CNN's Ed Lavandera contributed to this report.


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      Re: Longfellows Youth Academy
      « Reply #17 on: September 27, 2010, 05:21:38 PM »
      I always advocate that we should wait until the trial and/or all the evidence is in before concluding innocent or guilty.  But this doesnt look good for this Bishop guy at all.
      Why doesn't he step down?  Have the frozen his assets or the churches assets yet?



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      Re: Longfellows Youth Academy
      « Reply #18 on: September 28, 2010, 11:28:52 AM »
      Quote from: "Whooter"
      I always advocate that we should wait until the trial and/or all the evidence is in before concluding innocent or guilty.  But this doesnt look good for this Bishop guy at all.
      Why doesn't he step down?  Have the frozen his assets or the churches assets yet?

      So, would you keep your child in this program, under this man's care with these allegations?
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      Re: Longfellows Youth Academy
      « Reply #19 on: September 28, 2010, 12:59:25 PM »
      Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
      Quote from: "Whooter"
      I always advocate that we should wait until the trial and/or all the evidence is in before concluding innocent or guilty.  But this doesnt look good for this Bishop guy at all.
      Why doesn't he step down?  Have the frozen his assets or the churches assets yet?

      So, would you keep your child in this program, under this man's care with these allegations?

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      Re: Longfellows Youth Academy
      « Reply #20 on: September 28, 2010, 06:01:00 PM »
      Too many comments on the above CNN article, "Men allege sexual coercion by prominent Atlanta pastor," for me to post them! Over 3300, last I checked. Geez Louise... It seems Bishop Eddie Long's been on the downlow for quite some time!  :twofinger:

      Gotta wonder why DannyB II thinks Longfellows Youth Academy is such a "great program...has helped many." Care to chime in on that, DannyB?
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      Re: Longfellows Youth Academy
      « Reply #21 on: September 28, 2010, 06:05:59 PM »
      Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
      Quote from: "Whooter"
      I always advocate that we should wait until the trial and/or all the evidence is in before concluding innocent or guilty.  But this doesnt look good for this Bishop guy at all.
      Why doesn't he step down?  Have the frozen his assets or the churches assets yet?

      So, would you keep your child in this program, under this man's care with these allegations?

      Well she wouldn't be there in the first place.  I would be more involved in the information and what is credible or not before I decided.  But based on what I have read to date I would probably pull my kid out.



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      Atlanta megachurch head denies sex with young men
      « Reply #22 on: September 28, 2010, 06:29:43 PM »
      Atlanta Journal-Constitution
      3:58 p.m. Wednesday, September 22, 2010

      Atlanta megachurch head denies sex with young men

      By ERRIN HAINES
      The Associated Press


      ATLANTA — The prominent pastor of a 25,000-member megachurch near Atlanta denies allegations in a lawsuit that he coerced three young men from the congregation into a sexual relationship, his attorney said.


      FILE - In this Jan. 18 2007 file photo, Bishop Eddie Long, of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, in Lithonia, Ga. gestures during an interview in Lithonia. Two men on Tuesday, Sept. 21, 2010 filed a lawsuit accusing Long of exploiting his role as pastor of an Atlanta-area megachurch to coerce them into sexual relationships when they were members of his congregation. (AP Photo/Gene Blythe, File)

      Lawyers for two of the men, now 20 and 21, filed the lawsuit Tuesday in DeKalb County Court against Bishop Eddie Long. The third lawsuit was filed Wednesday. The Associated Press generally does not identify people who say they were victims of sexual impropriety.

      President George W. Bush and three former presidents visited the sprawling New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in the Atlanta suburb of Lithonia for the 2006 funeral of Coretta Scott King, the widow of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Long introduced the speakers and the Rev. Bernice King, the Kings' younger daughter, delivered the eulogy. She is also a pastor there.

      The men who sued were 17- and 18-year-old members of the church when they say Long abused his spiritual authority to seduce them with cars, money, clothes, jewelry, international trips and access to celebrities.

      Craig Gillen, Long's attorney, says the pastor "categorically denies the allegations."

      "We find it unfortunate that these two young men would take this course of action," Gillen said late Tuesday after news of the lawsuit broke. He said Long had not yet been served with copies of the lawsuits.

      Long has called for a national ban on same-sex marriage and his church counsels gay members to become straight. In 2004, he led a march with Bernice King to her father's Atlanta grave to support a national constitutional amendment to protect marriage "between one man and one woman."

      He also has released several gospel albums, authored books on relationships and spirituality, and hosts a weekly television program.

      B.J. Bernstein, an attorney representing the plaintiffs, said she opened her investigation after getting a call from one of the boys. She said her law office is now broadening the investigation.

      "We are taking calls and we do believe, based on what the boys' statements are, that there are other victims," she said.

      Although the relationships started when the plaintiffs were past the legal age of consent in Georgia — which is 16 — she said Long abused his "spiritual authority" to coerce her clients into engaging in sexual acts.

      Bernstein also said that Bishop made an excessive number of phone calls and e-mails to her clients. She said most of the notes were not crude, but several of them asked the clients to send him pictures. She said she will subpoena Long for his records.

      "It's an irrational number of contacts," she said.

      When asked about a possible motive for the accusations, Gillen referred to a break-in at Long's office in June. Bernstein said one of the plaintiffs is facing a criminal burglary charge in the incident, but she said the break-in was a way of lashing out at Long.

      Bernstein said she contacted the U.S. Attorney's Office earlier this month when she became aware of the young men's allegations. She did not know what action, if any, the agency planned to take. She said she did not contact DeKalb County authorities because Long and his church have strong ties to county officials.

      Patrick Crosby, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Atlanta, would not comment on whether federal prosecutors are investigating Long.

      Georgia Bureau of Investigation spokesman John Bankhead said Wednesday his office wasn't investigating. And Orzy Theus of the DeKalb County District Attorney's office said Wednesday that county prosecutors do not plan to be involved.

      "That's a civil matter. They were over the age of consent, that's not a criminal matter," said Theus.

      Long was appointed pastor of New Birth in 1987. Then, the church had about 150 members. Less than four years later, the church had grown to more than 8,000 members. Athletes and entertainers claim membership at the church.

      Long's church was among those named in 2007 in a Senate committee's investigation into a half-dozen Christian ministries over their financing.

      Today, New Birth sits on 250 acres and has more than 25,000 members, a $50 million, 10,000-seat cathedral and more than 40 ministries — including the Longfellows Youth Academy, a tuition-based program for young men 13 to 18.

      The New Birth campus was quiet Wednesday morning, with no unusual activity. Administrative staff referred media inquiries to Long's spokesman and people at the church declined to comment on the situation.

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      Associated Press Writer Greg Bluestein in Atlanta contributed to this story.

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      Lawsuit: Bishop Eddie Long Coerced Men into Sex
      « Reply #23 on: September 29, 2010, 01:01:22 AM »
      CBS News.com
      ATLANTA, Sept. 21, 2010

      Lawsuit: Bishop Eddie Long Coerced Men into Sex
      Two Men Say Baptist Bishop Seduced Them With Cars, Money, Jewelry and Access to Celebrities


      In this file photo, Bishop Eddie Long, left, sits with Reverend Bernice King during funeral services for King's mother, Coretta Scott King.  (RIC FELD/AFP/Getty Images)

      (AP)   Two men have filed a lawsuit accusing Bishop Eddie Long of exploiting his role as pastor of an Atlanta-area megachurch to coerce them into sexual relationships when they were members of his congregation.

      Lawyers for the men, now 20 and 21, say they filed the lawsuit on Tuesday in DeKalb County Court. The Associated Press generally does not identify people who say they were victims of sex crimes.

      Craig Gillen, Long's attorney, says the pastor "categorically denies the allegations."

      The men were 17- and 18-year-old members of Long's New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, when they say Long abused his spiritual authority to seduce them with with cars, money, clothes, jewelry, international trips and access to celebrities.


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      Comments: "Lawsuit: Bishop Eddie Long Coerced...," #s 1-30
      « Reply #24 on: September 29, 2010, 12:48:26 PM »
      Comments left for the above article, "Lawsuit: Bishop Eddie Long Coerced Men into Sex" (Sept. 21, 2010; CBS News / AP), #s 1-30:


      by newsterI September 21, 2010 8:20 PM EDT
        to seduce them with with cars, money, clothes, jewelry, international trips and access to celebrities. " Oh WOW, they sound real "abused" and "coerced" let me tell you! offering them CARS, cash, jewelry, expensive trips, wow, that's just terrible, how dare anyone offer them CARS and money like that LOL
        by RCC_Soldaten September 21, 2010 10:10 PM EDT
          The offers came from a 'Bishop' (self-appointed) of a 'Baptist' church. Not from a carnival barker...kind of hard to tell the difference in this case.
        by doctor_know September 22, 2010 3:31 AM EDT
          are you trying to defend this guy.... because he gave his victims something in return? Really?
        by MamaKrzewski September 22, 2010 1:27 PM EDT
          You don't get it. So the old man who offers candy to children so that they'll sit on his lap and be felt up...the children are at fault? GET REAL
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        by democratic_1 September 21, 2010 9:03 PM EDT
          I used to live in a town that had a mega-church and the pastor who founded it had to resign because he was a homosexual. His church preached heavy and hard against gays, lesbians, etc. I never understood people who felt they had to belong to any church and pay a tithing for someone to preach at them and in a lot of cases teach them to hate.
          by doctor_know September 22, 2010 3:30 AM EDT
            Well I guess you are too smart for religion then...... thats a good thing.
          by mick7744 September 22, 2010 8:27 AM EDT
            I could never worship or brlieve in a God that I could comprehend.
          by MamaKrzewski September 22, 2010 1:26 PM EDT
            Why did he have to resign? WHAT IS WRONG WITH A GAY MAN OF GOD? THEY EXIST! And are probably better at what they do than the straight ones, ebcause they understand compassion!
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          by hooversjames September 21, 2010 9:19 PM EDT
            Another gay pastor. Isnt it interesting how the liberal media always leaves out the fact that almost 100% of the abused, are all by gay pastors, or priests. If you dont think the media leaving out the fact that these abusers are gay,is just an honest omission,you're an idiot.
            by URunderarrest September 21, 2010 10:41 PM EDT
              It's called the cycle of abuse. They got that way 'cause some other predator anointed them. These people aren't gay, they're sexually perverted because they preach hatred of exactly what they do. Gays don't hate what they do because they've come to terms with who they are. There's a big difference.
            by Ms_enza September 22, 2010 6:30 AM EDT
              If you think these pastors aren't ALSO coercing or buying women and young girls, e.g., Jimmy Swaggart, then you're a fool.
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            by URunderarrest September 21, 2010 10:37 PM EDT
              I'll bet this pastor was vehemently anti gay. Surprise! The more anti gay one is the more I question their motives. I hope the sex was good 'cause his closeted gay days are over.
              by doctor_know September 22, 2010 3:28 AM EDT
                Well, hopefully his days of duping ignorant people into giving him money are over.
              by allkneebowconfessJCisLord September 22, 2010 5:20 PM EDT
                He was naturally a gay sex promoter because he was a good and tolerant Democrat, therefore his motives were pure.
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              by ouchitatom September 22, 2010 4:53 AM EDT
                I remember when I was young the parents could ask where are all the children? Your parents could reply they are all at church camp and never worry for a minute. Now these days you have to raise a brow to any parents who let thier children take road trips with a church group and to let them go two weeks to a camp is becoming ancient history.I understand that thier are alot of atheists and non believers out there I also ther are alot of believers.I believe and always have even when I became old enough to walk away from the church or stay I stayed.There were many times after a firefight while in the service I felt gaurded when many of my comrades were wounded or killed and I wasn't. I never chalked it up to luck or odds I thanked My creator and ask for a truer aim and higher body count and continued on my way .Blind faith is exactly what it says it is blind and you have to take that step and just believe that if it works out ok great if doesn't well it was your time your job here is done and it's time to go home now.
              by tbird6740 September 22, 2010 6:17 AM EDT
                Like I predicted, the day of the "Baptist" reckoning is at hand, in particular, the IFB (Independent Fundamental Baptist). Remember Bill Cabe from a few weeks ago?Slowly, but surely, the Catholic church is sliding out of first place for sexual abuse, child molestation, corruption, etc. and the Baptists, who have a had a grand old time pointing fingers at how horrible the Catholic Church is, while at the same time wiping the sweat from their brows saying "Whew! Glad they're in the spotlight and NOT US!", are being EXPOSED for the corrupt, cult-like organization they have become over the course of many decades. The cover-ups, blaming of the victims, and downright LIES are coming to the surface. For too long, Baptist pastors and church congregations have collectively chosen to keep their crimes and knowledge of crimes "within the church", rather than reporting to the police. Not only are the horrors within these houses of "God" being exposed, but steps are being taken to bring to light the horrors that occur within the unlicensed, unregulated, BIG $ MAKING children's group homes that these churches support. Just like the one Bill Cabe ran back in the early 90's that the media refuses to talk about. The state of NC is FULL of these same type places, one in particular that is operated by a man with a prior child abuse conviction in SC. To all Baptist pastors: If you are of the opinion that the vile actions occuring within your denomination should be handled "within the church" rather than reported to the police, then you are DIRECTLY contributing to this problem. It's time to PURGE the filth from your midst and make a public example of these people. Otherwise your denomination will continue to be a haven for criminals and sexual predators. These pieces of trash have even earned their own website:
              http://www.stopbaptistpredators.com Bill Cabe has his own spot on it now.[/list]
              by Ms_enza September 22, 2010 6:27 AM EDT
                Never put your faith in another man's faith. When you pick your leaders based on how strongly they profess their beliefs, well, someday you will be disappointed. Palin 2012! Why the hell not? World's supposed to end anyway.
              by longtree-2009 September 22, 2010 6:52 AM EDT
                wonder if the two have proof? wonder too if long is gay, or bisexual, or just a pedophile if the two were minors? is long married, with children? the news story lacks information. will the two give back all monies, jewelry, cars, whatever? wonder if the two are in therapy, are they gay, are they suffering in some way? know it happens but don't understand any of it.
                by katiekono September 22, 2010 11:44 PM EDT
                  I, too, have a lot of questions. I deal with my confusion by writing: perhaps this will add some understanding for you:
                http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... tml?cat=70[/list][/list]
                by run2jazz2 September 22, 2010 7:41 AM EDT
                  I fellowship at New Birth Baptist Church in the early 90's before moving and enjoyed Bishop Long. I left the church to find a smalllr congregation since I was not into the "Mega" church atmosphere. true? Bishop Long has always been an inspiration to many young men and women in the Atlanta area who did not have a Father figure. I guess now you have to defend yourself on allegations related to matters of inappropriate behavior. This is why I don't put my faith in man because he is no different than any sinner as HE can be tempted by sin. Put your faith in ONLY one person which is GOD since he is the only one who can provide salvation.
                  by slappy-jones September 22, 2010 11:54 AM EDT
                    Salvation from what? Sin is a manufactured term to control the masses through fear of the "next" life.
                  by MamaKrzewski September 22, 2010 1:20 PM EDT
                    slappy jones, to each his own. If you can live your life without a thought of what may or may not come next, more power to you. But when you make comments like that, you are no better than the people who condemn you to hell.
                  by allkneebowconfessJCisLord September 22, 2010 5:30 PM EDT
                    Actually it is Ms. Jones own sin that condemns her. Barring mercy, she faces strict justice.
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                  by MPHgrad September 22, 2010 8:09 AM EDT
                    A sad addition to this story will be how blacks come to the defense of this pastor--as they already were on the radio this morning. They also came to his defense two years ago during an investigation of tax evasion when he refused disclosure. One radio personality said that the pastor is a victim of his kind heart in attempting to help these young men. Seriously? Add this to the archives of Jesse Jackson & Marion Barry. Eddie Long is a thief better recognized as a pimp in the pulpit.
                    by MamaKrzewski September 22, 2010 1:19 PM EDT
                      Yep. It smacks of hypocrisy. We get to excuse him, but the Catholic priests who did the same thing need to be punished. What's it going to be, folks? I just saw someone defending him on FB, and I asked her if all people are to recieve the same mercy...or is it just because he's a well-known pastor, and people's cognitive dissonance can't bear to admit that this man may not be what he's put himself out there to be.
                    by MPHgrad September 23, 2010 11:13 AM EDT
                      You are so right MamaKrzewski. I too think it is a great deal of cognitive dissonance at play. It will force people to question their blind allegiance and how they contributed to such a culture.
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                    by rdkwamena September 22, 2010 2:57 PM EDT
                      This man has played on many individuals and has used God?s name and gifts for financial gain. Yet throughout his travels he has been a devil, while defiling himself by performing sexual acts with young men. This is an abomination in the eyes of God. Every member of his church has displayed ignorance by following man, instead of having faith in God. Everyone with eyes can see that Mr. Long is not pure in the eyes of God, and his soul is wandering with the rest of the lost souls of this world. As people, we need to start recognizing the signs and discern between those of this world that are ordained by God, and those who are obviously false prophets. These are messages that are embedded throughout the Bible, Koran, and The Torah. Ultimately, Mr. Long and his congregation will be cursed for their arrogance, ignorance, and judgment they pass on to others. All we can do is pray that God spares his wrath for those individuals that truly attended his church for the word. And in closing, the Son of God warns all others such as TD Jakes, Creflo Dolla, and Entertainment Moguls that their time is swiftly occurring. No need to repent and change your ways, for the sewage you have instilled and place upon our land is to great to be overlooked. Brace for shock, we?re on our way
                    by skypilot123 September 22, 2010 3:54 PM EDT
                      When is Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton going to rear their ugly faces and get their photo ops as usual.
                      by Vertrauen September 22, 2010 9:25 PM EDT
                        seriously! you have a black preacher preying on boys...they won't touch this one - they'll wait til it blows over or til some white guy screws up then they'll overshadow this perverts issues with the white guys issues
                      by MPHgrad September 23, 2010 11:13 AM EDT
                        Exactly Vertrauen. Be careful though; when I said the same, the "good people" were angry at me for inserting race in this issue when clearly there exists blatant hypocrisy among many blacks in overlooking the faults of their leaders and pouncing on the faults of others.
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                      by SBTheTruth September 22, 2010 4:18 PM EDT
                        Read "PIMPS IN THE PULPIT" BY SHANNON BELLAMY.... Yes, you heard her on the Michael Baisden Radio Show, TRUE STORY .... REAL NAMES..... THERE IS A $20 MILLION LAWSUIT CURRENTLY AGAINST MEGA CHURCH SHARON BAPTIST CHURCH IN PHILADELPHIA FOR THE SAME THING AS BISHOP EDDIE LONG, THE PASTOR HAVING SEX WITH HIS COUNSELEE.
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                      by allkneebowconfessJCisLord September 22, 2010 5:15 PM EDT
                        Eddie Long is a DEMOCRAT FUNDRAISER. He's a poser, phony huckster like Sharpton and Jackson.
                      by WRATH-OF-GOD September 22, 2010 6:55 PM EDT
                        When did America decide not to tax luxury sex junkets for Baptist Bishops and church members? I wonder if folks will ever catch on to the fact that those who are virulently homophobic are quite likely to have a very strong same-sex attraction?
                        by Vertrauen September 22, 2010 9:16 PM EDT
                          hmmm...you sound well versed in the scenario...especially as that 'quite likely' theory relates to a very small percentage of the population, and they're usually sexual predators who lash out in anger for misunderstanding why they've been 'affected/inflicted' with such a sickness - aside from that it's mostly hate and fear of straying from what those individuals perceive as the norm they are accustom to, typically geographical
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                        by reasoningthinking September 22, 2010 9:21 PM EDT
                          He does not represent a race he represents a culture. Now he has been outed as a hypocrite before his people; is this a divine happening or the normal train wreck of the full recompense when humans error? Paul stated that all sorts like fornicators, idolaters and so on so forth will be moving out of what they were doing and it is what 'they once were'. However, when one thinks they have never done anything wrong how can you leave it behind? A pastor near my region just this past month same thing... Take a gander at this freakishly similar situation. The creepy bold nature of denial and blaming the victims. The link is below.
                        by cjknutson September 23, 2010 7:13 AM EDT
                          One more baptist bigot bites the bullet.
                        by reasoningthinking September 23, 2010 6:19 PM EDT
                          God does not dwell in any of them. They are all Wordly and have not seperated from the world. They are active seekers of all of what Jesus was offered by satan when he was in the wilderness for forty days and forty nights. Jesus refused the offer and these false prophets take it. They are all of Christendoms finest elite soldiers of darkness. This is called reasoning not judgement. God will sentence them to the correct punishment!! My reasoning has kept me away from Satans henchmen. And Gods judgement will be just. Actually to be better understood discernment is built from knowledge and wisdom is the exercise of applying and using knowledge. The Almighty through Jesus told us all to preach the good news of the Kingdom. There is no one person who is ordained to do so. Jesus is the Titled annointed one. ONLY!! The Almighty gave his people powers beyond wordly man's thinking to discern what is wrong without jumping into a sea of death to discover if it will kill them.
                        by reasoningthinking September 23, 2010 6:21 PM EDT
                          This is satan's system and he is a master puppeteer. The government relies on the puppets to fuel the economy with non biblical holidays like Christmas, Mother's day, flag day, fourth of July < so on and so forth and all sorts of uneeded luxuries, fantasies and games. The importance of traditions and holidays are so vital to the economy and American philosophy that it is taught in schools and "churches" to allow all to embrace the ideas. Baptists, Protestants, Mormons, Catholics, Athiests, Agnostics all celebrate and embrace the same holidays and observes the same traditions like birthdays, Christmas, flag day, etc... you know why?? They are the same. If you can still celebrate Christmas and you're an athiest that is something to think about. It lets you know that it was never from the Almighty God to participate in. Funny when adults tell me that they celebrate this or that for the children and I say to them " That is who satan wants(the children) because he already has you". We are in this world but are not suppose to be of it. Eddie Long and his false teachings never were from God from the start and that goes for all of Christiandom
                        by Rajah88 September 23, 2010 6:45 PM EDT
                          CHRISTIANS!
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                        by Rajah88 September 23, 2010 6:47 PM EDT
                          The religious turn their kids over to the Eddie Longs of the world for *guidance* and wonder why children turn out as they do. RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING!


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                        Lawsuits accuse leader of sexual coercion...
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                        DEKALB COUNTY NEWS · 4:59 p.m. Wednesday, September 22, 2010
                        Bishop Eddie Long | Lawsuits accuse leader of sexual coercion; Long "adamantly denies"

                        By Shelia M. Poole, Megan Matteucci and Katie Leslie
                        The Atlanta Journal-Constitution


                        Two DeKalb County men filed lawsuits Tuesday alleging Bishop Eddie Long, leader of one of the Southeast's largest churches, coerced them into having sex with him in exchange for lavish trips, cars and cash.


                        Bishop Eddie Long addresses students of Southwest Dekalb High School in 1997. Renee Hannans/Special

                        Long is the nationally known minister of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, with more than 25,000 members.

                        The pastor's attorney, Craig Gillen, adamantly denied the allegations.

                        "It is unfortunate that these two young men have chosen to take this course of action."

                        The plaintiffs, Anthony Flagg, 21, and Maurice Robinson, 20, began having inappropriate relations with Long at the age of 16, which is the legal age of consent in Georgia, said their attorney B.J. Bernstein.

                        The men are seeking a trial by jury and unspecified damages.

                        "It's not just these two. There are young men around him at all times," said attorney B.J. Bernstein said. "There are kids at risk now."

                        Bernstein said she has not contacted DeKalb law enforcement because of Long's ties to DeKalb officials.

                        Gillen noted Robinson was arrested in June 2010 in connection with a burglary at the church. Robinson and Anthony Boyd, 19, of Decatur, were arrested June 23 and charged with stealing items such as an iPad and an iPhone, according to a police report obtained by the AJC.

                        Robinson committed the burglary in retaliation after learning that Long was involved with other men, including Flagg, Bernstein said.

                        "He lashed out," Bernstein said. "But if it weren't for that act, we wouldn't know about this. He talked to his friends and learned Long had other 'spiritual sons.' "

                        A few minutes before evening Bible study on Tuesday night, several members said they were shocked by the allegations.

                        Dwayne Jenkins, 47, of Lithonia, started attending New Birth a month ago, but is not yet a member. "It gives you a little shake," he said of the lawsuit. "It's his word against his word. Only Mr. Long and the two men know what happen. I'm not here to judge, I'm here to get close to the Lord. The Lord will take care of it."

                        "That don't even make sense,”"said Hillary Lewis, 52, carrying the Bible in her hand. "I like the message that he brings," the Snellville resident said. "He brings things down to earth."

                        Samuel Midgette, 40, of Atlanta called Long “a good man – a man of God. He wants to help everybody… That man loves his wife. When you believe in your pastor, you believe in your pastor.”

                        The lawsuit names Long, New Birth and the Longfellows Youth Academy as defendants. According to the suit, the academy is a program for young men ages 13 through 18.

                        According to the lawsuit, Robinson, 20, and his family joined New Birth in 2003. His mother enrolled him in the Longfellow Academy when he was 14.

                        The suit alleges Long began to spend personal time with Robinson when he was 15 years old. At some point, the suit alleges, Robinson was placed on the payroll. In addition Long bought Flagg a Ford Mustang, the suit alleges.

                        Bernstein said she has emails, text messages and photographs between the men and Long.

                        Long took Robinson on several overnight trips to various destinations, including New York and Turks & Caicos, according to the suit. The suit says Long took Robinson to Auckland, New Zealand, for Robinson's birthday in 2008.

                        During that trip, Robinson alleges in the lawsuit, Long regularly "engaged in sexual touching and other sexual acts."

                        In separate trips, the men flew on Long's personal jet and shared a bed with him at the hotels, Bernstein said. Long used the alias “Dick Tracy” when he checked into the hotel, the suit alleges.

                        However, the bulk of the relations occurred on the megachurch's property, including inside Long's "guest house" on Snapfinger Road in south DeKalb, Bernstein said.

                        Long was named 21 years ago as pastor of the then 300-member church that would become New Birth Missionary Baptist Church.

                        It has expanded beyond its Lithonia home and has satellite churches in other cities. The 240-acre Lithonia campus is like a small town and promotes a myriad of ministries, such as the annual Hosea Feed the Hungry and help for the homeless and addicted.

                        Craig Schneider contributed to this article. Shelia Poole can be reached at mmatteucci@ajc.com. Katie Leslie can be reached at kleslie@ajc.com


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                        Bishop Eddie Long Denies Coercing Men into Sex
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                        ATLANTA, Sept. 22, 2010

                        Bishop Eddie Long Denies Coercing Men into Sex
                        Lawyer for Megachurch Pastor Says Client "Categorically Denies" Allegations of Two Male Congregants


                        In this file photo, Bishop Eddie Long, left, sits with Reverend Bernice King during funeral services for King's mother, Coretta Scott King.  (RIC FELD/AFP/Getty Images)

                        (AP)   The prominent pastor of a 25,000-member megachurch outside Atlanta denies allegations in a lawsuit that he coerced two young men from the congregation into a sexual relationship, his attorney said.

                        Lawyers for the men, now 20 and 21, say they filed the lawsuit Tuesday in DeKalb County Court against Bishop Eddie Long. The Associated Press generally does not identify people who say they were victims of sexual impropriety.

                        The men were 17- and 18-year-old members of Long's New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, when they say Long abused his spiritual authority to seduce them with cars, money, clothes, jewelry, international trips and access to celebrities.

                        Craig Gillen, Long's attorney, says the pastor "categorically denies the allegations."

                        "We find it unfortunate that these two young men would take this course of action," Gillen said late Tuesday after news of the lawsuit broke. He said Long had not yet been served with copies of the lawsuits.

                        B.J. Bernstein, an attorney representing the plaintiffs, said that when the relationships started, the plaintiffs were past the legal age of consent in Georgia, which is 16.

                        "Defendant Long has utilized his spiritual authority to coerce certain young male members ... into engaging in sexual acts and relationships for his own personal sexual gratification," the lawsuits read.

                        When asked about a possible motive for the accusations, Gillen referred to a break-in at Long's office in June.

                        Bernstein said one of the plaintiffs is facing a criminal burglary charge in the incident. She said the break-in was a way of lashing out at Long.

                        Bernstein said she contacted the U.S. Attorney's Office earlier this month when she became aware of the young men's allegations. She did not know what action, if any, the agency planned to take.

                        Bernstein told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution she has not contacted DeKalb County law enforcement because Long has ties to county officials.

                        Orzy Theus, a spokesman for the DeKalb County district attorney's office, said she was not aware on Tuesday of an investigation in that office related to the allegations.

                        Long was appointed pastor of New Birth in 1987. Then, the church had about 150 members. Less than four years later, the church had grown to more than 8,000 members. Athletes and entertainers claim membership at the church, and among its prominent clergy is the Rev. Bernice King, the youngest daughter of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

                        Long's church was among those named in 2007 in a Senate committee's investigation into a half-dozen Christian ministries over their financing.

                        Today, New Birth sits on 250 acres and has more than 25,000 members, a $50 million, 10,000-seat cathedral and more than 40 ministries - including the Longfellows Youth Academy, a tuition-based program for young men 13 to 18.


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                        by MPHgrad September 22, 2010 8:58 AM EDT
                          A sad addition to this story will be how blacks come to the defense of this pastor--as they already were on the radio this morning. They also came to his defense two years ago during an investigation of tax evasion when he refused disclosure. One radio personality said that the pastor is a victim of his kind heart in attempting to help these young men. Seriously? Add this to the archives of Jesse Jackson & Marion Barry. Eddie Long is a thief better recognized as a pimp in the pulpit.
                          by blindersoff September 22, 2010 10:16 AM EDT
                            Any excuse to bring race into this. I'm black and I don't defend him. He's disgraceful. Don't judge all by his followers defending him. It is the same as when Jimmy Swaggerts and Jim Bakkers followers defended them. Both still preach. And their congregations are white.
                          by run2jazz2 September 22, 2010 1:01 PM EDT
                            What does race have to do with this issue? Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker and Benny Hinn all have White congregations. Put aside your "Hate" and realize that sin and stupidity crosses many ethincities, social classes and education levels.
                          by luvmesomeme September 22, 2010 3:16 PM EDT
                            And here we go!!!!I echo the comments of blindersoff and run2jazz2. Don't automatically assume that "all blacks" are defending him. Think before you type!!!!!
                          by thecanimalshusband September 23, 2010 10:09 AM EDT
                            It has nothing to do with race. It's corruption and abuse of power by a holier-than-thou wealthy preacher.
                          by MPHgrad September 23, 2010 10:27 AM EDT
                            You all have proved the point.
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                          by jrjrc September 22, 2010 9:32 AM EDT
                            This news does NOT surprise me at all. Usually the people (especially so-called straight men), whether they call themselves religious or not, who RAIL and RANT about the so-called evils of homosexuality are usually the ones who are on the down low trying to hide the fact that they are having sex with men or want to have sex with men. And if you get them behind closed doors, they would usually be the first ones down on their knees taking it at BOTH ends and loving it. IF the allegations are true about this pastor, the sin here is NOT the homosexuality, the sin would be the HYPOCRISY of the Pastor and the VIOLATION OF TRUST that occurred between the pastor and these individuals, who were of consenting age to have heterosexual OR homosexual sex. One?s religious belief is IRRELEVANT because everyone does not have the same religious belief and do not believe in the same religious book that you may believe in, and that?s why we have a separation of church and state. I am Christian and I believe in GOD (always have and always will), but I do not believe EVERYTHING that is in the Bible, because my God has given me a brain and has cautioned me to understand that the Bible (as with many other books of different religions) passages have been touched, interpreted, manipulated, and written in many instances by MAN, who is IMPERFECT, and many of the statements in the bible are not necessarily the word of God, but the word of man, who again is IMPERFECT. I read the bible everyday because it has good guidelines on how I should lead my life, but just like with this pastor who railed and ranted against homosexuality, many of the so-called Christians and bible readers are being HYPOCRITES when they SELECTIVELY pull passages from the Bible when it suits their own personal PREJUDICES or position on a subject (such as homosexuality, etc. ), but will IGNORE the Bible passages on other matters (for example, adultery, working on Sunday, eating certain meats, wearing certain cloths, discipline their children, judging others, etc., etc. etc.). And please don't forget that many people have attempted to use the Bible to justify many injustices, including Slavery. So I hope you will remember some of the comments above the next time you are tempted to use the Bible in an attempt to justify your own prejudices, while CLAIMING that you believe EVERYTHING in the Bible, while ignoring the fact that YOU are not even following many, many, MANY of the passages in the Bible.
                            by deohgee September 22, 2010 1:10 PM EDT
                              Could you repeat that rant, please?
                            by kyleminli September 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT
                              You've got a lot on your mind. I love it when humans call other humans hypocrites, as if being human involved anything other than being hypocritical. If you're not a hypocrite, then you're not human. And if you think you're perfect, then you're the hypocrite. Don't you just love it. You can come on here and act like the perfect one and you're actually only condemning yourself in the process. Sorry, jrjrc, but you're a flawed individual--as are all of us. The sooner you get it, the sooner you'll stop playing the holier-than-thou card that you're actually accusing others of playing.
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                            by newsterI September 22, 2010 9:45 AM EDT
                              Oh yeah, they sound real "abused", offered CARS, MONEY, JEWELRY, expensive trips, wow, that's real abuse! how dare he offer CARS, MONEY and expensive JEWELRY!!!
                              by porcine_aviator September 22, 2010 2:09 PM EDT
                                Hmmm, interesting that you're adamantly defending the ways of a PEDOPHILE.
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                              by blindersoff September 22, 2010 10:15 AM EDT
                                That's how most abusers groom their victims. Buying someone a car does NOT give him the right to their virginity. He took an 18 year old to New Zealand for his birthday! Obviously he was expecting a relationship. And it is diabolical for him to wait until they were the age of consent to have sex, he knew he couldn't get in legal trouble.
                              by chonder2 September 22, 2010 10:27 AM EDT
                                He's an evangelical. He can do anything he wants. He has a pipline directly to God. You can't judge him.He'll judge YOU.
                              by burtwoody September 22, 2010 10:57 AM EDT
                                Long is just another evangelical screwball! These churches are just cults and should be closed down. They serve no valid purpose other than to provide a meeting place, control their members and entice them to send in their hard earned money. These churches claim to teach the bible, but in reality most members are uneducated hypocrites!
                              by JustYourAverageReader September 22, 2010 12:08 PM EDT
                                LOL!
                              by deohgee September 22, 2010 1:08 PM EDT
                                Are we talking about "Eddie Long Dong"?
                                by gerryrigger September 22, 2010 3:28 PM EDT
                                  aka "Rectum Rector"
                                by vista8635 September 23, 2010 4:28 PM EDT
                                  Oh yeah... Oooooh yeah... Beautiful....
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7FFjUpVLg[/list]
                                by vista8635 September 23, 2010 4:32 PM EDT
                                  Ooooooh yeah... The mooon.... Beautiful... More Beautiful....
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7FFjUpVLg[/list][/list]
                                by deohgee September 22, 2010 1:39 PM EDT
                                  Heyyyy, lookyheeya!!! yunowhaimsayin!! I letchu dry my rad and me show you how come my las name iz long, yunowhaimsayin!!!
                                by Hosheen September 22, 2010 1:50 PM EDT
                                  Oops, another christian hypocrite (a redundancy, I know) literally caught with his pants down. When will people understand that all religion is a scam and these "leaders" are only in it for the money, glory, and fame? All religions are false, but this person really has taken it to the extreme.
                                by jxknowles September 22, 2010 2:29 PM EDT
                                  Not against organized religion, but when you have '25,000 x $$$' members, greed, corruption and sex scandals are soon to follow. The Mormon, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, (the list goes on and on) have all had their share of scandals and are driven at times by money, and nothing else. Keep your Churches small. Know your fellow worshippers. Make religion into something spiritual, not a business where the sleaze is soon to follow.
                                  by AttentionDeficit September 22, 2010 3:08 PM EDT
                                    Better yet, decide for yourself what "god" is or isn't. That way, it is entirely personal, and not driven by anyone's interpretation of an ancient book
                                  by thecanimalshusband September 23, 2010 10:05 AM EDT
                                    How true.
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                                  by pollroller1 September 22, 2010 3:16 PM EDT
                                    We will soon be passing out the buckets. Please give all you can. In the name of Jesus. No checks please. Cash only.
                                    by Vertrauen September 23, 2010 6:15 PM EDT
                                      yeah...not so much - you watch too much sunday preaching on TV - one could say the same abut you as a 'poll-roller' with question of just how many polls/votes have been manipulated by your own hand - same thing, different arena
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                                    by WRATH-OF-GOD September 22, 2010 7:02 PM EDT
                                      When did Americans decide not to tax sex junkets for Baptist Bishops and high school boys? Anyone who rants against gays seems to have a really good chance of feeling same-sex attraction and lives in the closet. The list of hypocrites grows and grows.
                                    by TheChemistryGeek September 22, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
                                      I am just so tired of hearing all this crap about these ministers doing this type of foolishness. What is going on in Atlanta? But, there is one thing that puzzles me about all this.....Where were these boys' mothers when he was handing out all these expensive gifts, and taking these long trips. Because at 18, you are not grown in my house. Apparently, these mothers' were getting something in return. Why didn't they step up to say something about it. A mother knows her child and she knows when something is not right with her child. How is it that these mothers, didn't. I just can't believe that all these years, this man hid this type of crap and no one knew nothing. How is that possible? It makes a person not want to go to church at all. Because if you can't trust your leader, the man of God, then who on Earth can you trust? This is why I stopped going to church because these pastor's are sick. I had one that had me in a compromising position but, I know right from wrong and I kicked him in his....you know the rest. I just don't understand why. If there is a God and the jury is still out on that one with me, then why does he allows these men to represent him. Now, I am a black woman. But, I am a Chemistry major and a Physics minor, and there are too many questions about the universe that does not support this God theory. Too many terrible things happening to children, that do not support it as well. And too many things wrong in the country that do not support it either. There is so much hate in this country that the world is going to self destruct. Wake up people!!!! Who do you really trust? A God that allow men like this do this to our sons or the bullet you put at the bottom of the barrel in a gun. Which one do you think will keep you safe?
                                      by b_c_phx September 24, 2010 5:03 AM EDT
                                        ChemistryGreek, Please do not allow the things of this world to keep you from a loving, trusting and faithful God. I think if you take the time to study the Bible (objectively) and intenseley as it appears you do the sciences, you will have a diferent opinion of our God and Creator. It is unfortunate that we live in a fallen world. The Bible says the last days would be as the Days of Noah. We will also be living in the Days of Apostacy until the return of Christ. God gave men dominion over the earth along with a will to turn towards righteousness or unrighteousness. The lust of the eye and lust of the flesh has overwhelmed many in these last days toward self gratification with little or no care for their fellow man. Not everyone is evil and not everyone is untrustworthy. I pray that you someday have a powerful revelation of this, as well as the One True God of this World.
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                                      by ellensmithee September 22, 2010 10:40 PM EDT
                                        Oh, this is just SO funny when these bu#heads who tell people how to live get busted for being hypocrites! I hope to see you ALL fall! And you're doing such a good job at it! How sweet. That's just awesome! ***APPLAUSE, Reverend, for being caught at being a two-faced hypocrite!***


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                                      Comments: "Bishop Eddie Long Denies Coercing Men..." #s 31-4
                                      « Reply #29 on: September 30, 2010, 11:09:16 AM »
                                      Comments left for the above article, "Bishop Eddie Long Denies Coercing Men into Sex" (Sept. 22, 2010; CBS News / AP), #s 31-41:


                                        by Vertrauen September 23, 2010 6:13 PM EDT
                                          you're a little overly excited about a religious individuals downfall - how sad - all religion practices are not about hate, murder and priests molesting boys or men - grow up and shine your athiest becon of hate elsewhere
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                                        by laffewi September 23, 2010 1:12 AM EDT
                                          This should be no surprise since Christ prophesied about wheatlike Christians and weeds claiming to be Chrisian in his parable at Matthew13 and that in our time many would make a claim of being his followers but would prove false by their wicked conduct and shameless hypocrisy. Christ warned of wolves in sheep's covering and he also stated how to identify such ones.(read Matthew 7:15-23,2Timothy 3:1-5) Titus 1:16 states "They publicly declare they know God but they disown him by their works because they are detestable and not approved by God for any sort of work." Just as counterfeit money does not prove that real money doesn't exist, likewise false or counterfeit Christianity doesn't prove that genuine Christianity doesn't exist. Learning what God's word the Bible really teaches will identify True Christianity from false Christianity. To identify counterfeit money one must study what real money looks like. Likewise to identify counterfeit Christianity one must study the Bible and find out what it really teaches and what true Christianity really means. (read 2 Timothy 3:16&17 1Timothy 2:3&4)Remember Judas didn't make Christ or the rest of his sincere followers false. Likewise Judas like persons claiming to be Christians in no way prove Christ or his true followers false.
                                        by thecanimalshusband September 23, 2010 10:04 AM EDT
                                          He's on the down low but at least he's rich.
                                          by Vertrauen September 23, 2010 6:10 PM EDT
                                            rich means nothing if you're unhappy in your life
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                                          by IMP578 September 23, 2010 1:52 PM EDT
                                            Oh what fools we are! How much longer before mankind comes to their senses. Tooth fairy, Santa Clause, Churches, Ministers - all the same. I can't believe we are stupid enough to fight wars and kill each other over a fantasy! These are cons, only interested in a couple of things - money, sex and your kids. It's time to believe in science and make this a better world for us and our kids.
                                            by Vertrauen September 23, 2010 6:09 PM EDT
                                              you post makes absolutely no sense with regard to this article
                                            by Rajah88 September 23, 2010 6:51 PM EDT
                                              Vertrauen, the comments of IMP578 make far more sense than christianity.
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                                            by vista8635 September 23, 2010 4:34 PM EDT
                                              Oh my gosh! Ooooooh yeah...
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                                            by Rajah88 September 23, 2010 6:43 PM EDT
                                              The religious turn their kids over to the Eddie Longs of the world for *guidance* and wonder why they turn out as they do. RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING!
                                            by Rajah88 September 23, 2010 6:50 PM EDT
                                              Vertrauen, the comments of IMP578 make far more sense than christianity.
                                            by Rajah88 September 23, 2010 7:03 PM EDT
                                              One wold think that black folks, of all people, would be reluctant to join any organization whose logo is a man nailed to a cross.


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