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What illegal drugs would you legalize?

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Whooter:
Weed.



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psy:

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I didn't realize you favored legalization of pot.  Huh.  Learn something new every day.

Personally I favor the legalization of all substances.

Reason 1: It's not the government's business what you put in your body.  You own your own body.

Reason 2: Legal drugs would eliminate the violent and bloody black market trade.

Reason 3: For the children! Legal drugs would be harder for kids to get.  Right now, according to surveys of high schoolers, it's easier to get illegal substances than it is to get alcohol.

Reason 4: Legal drugs would be safer.  If manufacturers were liable for their products, they would make sure that their heroin, for example, was pure and uncut.  Most Heroin "overdoses" are actually poisonings or allergic reactions (to quinine, for example).  Before Heroin was illegal, overdoses were almost unheard of, despite it's potency being approximately 40 times what it is today.

Reason 5: Legal drugs would be cheaper. It would be less likely for people to turn to crime to support their bad habits if the price was not so high.

Reason 6: Many drugs that are prohibited now, such as Marijuana or Ibogaine, can actually be used to treat addictions to harder substances.

Reason 7: The money saved on drug war could reduce taxes or be spent on things which actually help the people.

I can go on and on.  There is very little positive benefit to the drug war.  Where is demand there will be supply, period.

Whooter:

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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Weed.



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I didn't realize you favored legalization of pot.  Huh.  Learn something new every day.

Personally I favor the legalization of all substances.

Reason 1: It's not the government's business what you put in your body.  You own your own body.

Reason 2: Legal drugs would eliminate the violent and bloody black market trade.

Reason 3: For the children! Legal drugs would be harder for kids to get.  Right now, according to surveys of high schoolers, it's easier to get illegal substances than it is to get alcohol.

Reason 4: Legal drugs would be safer.  If manufacturers were liable for their products, they would make sure that their heroin, for example, was pure and uncut.  Most Heroin "overdoses" are actually poisonings or allergic reactions (to quinine, for example).  Before Heroin was illegal, overdoses were almost unheard of, despite it's potency being approximately 40 times what it is today.

Reason 5: Legal drugs would be cheaper. It would be less likely for people to turn to crime to support their bad habits if the price was not so high.

Reason 6: Many drugs that are prohibited now, such as Marijuana or Ibogaine, can actually be used to treat addictions to harder substances.

Reason 7: The money saved on drug war could reduce taxes or be spent on things which actually help the people.

I can go on and on.  There is very little positive benefit to the drug war.  Where is demand there will be supply, period.
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I think part of the lure and fun when I was a teenager was that it was taboo and it separated me from my parents.  I would like to see some data before I would vote for just opening up the flood gates and legalizing “everything”.  But at least pot could be legalized right now.  But I agree with your points.  I would like to see it legalized if for any other reason so I could have access to some better stuff.  Contacts are very limited when you hit my age.

A believe a couple of glasses of red wine and a little weed every night will add ten years to your life over the long haul.

I definitely agree with the whole supply and demand.  The war on drugs has proven that economic theory.



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psy:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---I think part of the lure and fun when I was a teenager was that it was taboo and it separated me from my parents.  I would like to see some data before I would vote for just opening up the flood gates and legalizing “everything”.
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Ok.  Here is a survey showing drug availability to teens.

Another thing...

Reason 8: Legal drugs would not cause an increase in hard drug usage.


--- Quote ---But at least pot could be legalized right now.  But I agree with your points.  I would like to see it legalized if for any other reason so I could have access to some better stuff.  Contacts are very limited when you hit my age.  A believe a couple of glasses of red wine and a little weed every night will add ten years to your life over the long haul.
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:eek:

I'm adding this to my list of "100 things I never expected Whooter to say".  So far i'm at two.  This, and the earlier comment that Lichfield should be hung.


--- Quote ---I definitely agree with the whole supply and demand.  The war on drugs has proven that economic theory.
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Well that's really the key issue.  If a war cannot be won, there is really no point to continuing, especially since so much can potentially be gained by compromise.

Whooter:
I thought you would have known I smoked by my earlier life protesting and going to concerts in the early 70’s.  I spent so much time sleeping in the streets around the spectrum in Philadelphia waiting for the ticket offices to open up that the homeless and I started to recognize and nod to each other.  Ticket-tron was just getting started and they were only given a limited number of tickets to sell, so the only guarantee was the ticket office.  Besides many other things I was a concert junkie.

A funny story is I saved about $200 working all summer in highschool (for one of my dads companies) and then a friend and I went in halves on some Brown organic Mescaline.  I put in $100, spent one night breaking it down into hits, put the word out and made $700 in 2 weeks and we barely cut it down.  That was a lot of money then.

I didn’t have the stomach for it though, it would have devastated my parents if I had gotten busted and had my name put in the paper for dealing drugs.

I would never do that stuff (mescaline) now nor would I sell.

Thanks for the links.  My gut feel was that legalizing everything would not be successful because things didn’t seem to be going so well in Amsterdam.  But I never really investigated the details as to why.  But I do believe that if it were all legalized tomorrow there would not be a surge in demand but the quality would increase due to competition and rating requirements.  Maybe even get a slot in Consumer reports! Lol.



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