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ajax13:
Stony, that aspect of the zealot resorting to outright lies is great, and I'm sure you'll blow us all away with your routine using that.  Your completely false claim that I had attacked jews was tremendous.  No basis whatsoever, and you just went with it.  It is truly a comprehensive examination of a fundamenally dishonest individual frustrated by his own limitations.  Tremendously funny, and edgy.

IslamIsViolent:

--- Quote from: "ajax13" ---Sockpuppet, back again, spouting hateful, illogical  drivel.
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I'm not a sockpuppet.  Ask Psy to confirm.  If you're right, you can have me banned.  Otherwise you should probably shut up.


--- Quote ---Rather than puking up your bigoted propaganda, why not take some time to reflect on why you had to pick another user-name for your hate spiel.  It's propaganda because it's intended to manipulate and influence.  Hence it's entirely subjective content.  It's not based in empricism.  You cannot possibly know what muslims are taught.
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This is not Scientology with secret (leaked) teachings.  The Qur'an and ahadith are quite public.  All you have to do to know what Muslims are taught is to read them.  They're quite explicit in their teachings and very little is up to interpretation.  "strike off their fingers" or "kill" can only be interpreted so many ways.


--- Quote ---In fact, it is abundantly clear that your assessment of what they are taught is entirely wrong.  You and Hasbaranik make a perfect example.  You are attempting to teach your concept that Muslims are to be feared because they interpret the teachings of Muhammed literally and are compelled to explicitly obey every single aspect of this dogma.
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Not at all.  Most Muslims are hypocrites and do not follow their religion.


--- Quote ---This does not reflect reality in any way.  Muslim scholars have, for hundreds of years, debated the relationship of Muslims to their scriptures.  So you can say that they're hypocritical if they don't follow to the letter the teachings of Mohammed, but clearly hundreds of millions of muslims disagree with you.
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In public.  Try and ask one of them to condemn Hamas or Hisbollah as a terrorist organization, however.  You'll often be shocked at the responses.


--- Quote ---But you seem to think so highly of yourself and your opinion, in spite of the lack of evidence to back it up, and the ample evidence to nullify it, that you are compelled to emit it on the internet.
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What evidence to nullify it?  What abrogates Sura 9, which commands the subjugation, conversion, or genocide of unbelievers?  What abrogates the command for husbands to beat their wives if they are disobedient.

Really.  The only thing that differentiates an ideology like Nazism and Islam is age and religious status.  Both divide the world into "us" and "them" categories.  Both have dead charismatic figures who are seen as infallible.  Both teach genocide of the jews.  Did everything Synanon did suddenly become OK when they gained status as a church?  Scientology, the self help philosophy turned "religion"?  All you've learned how to do is to tolerate intolerance because the world around you tells you that you must turn a blind eye to anything deemed a "Religion" -- that you must show tolerance, even to those who are taught to kill you.


--- Quote ---Your argument is garbage.  Many westerners are taught to despise and kill, and for millennia they've done just that.  Clearly, many muslims are taught to behave in a peaceful, respectful manner and they do just that.
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Sure, and they should be left alone... Just like neo-nazis who choose to accomplish their goals through peaceful protest and political process.  It would be idiotic to deny that the ideologies are benign, however.


--- Quote ---A fine example is the tens of thousands of muslims killed by the United States armed forces, who were taught to do just that.  Another example is the continued existence of jews in iran.  The estimated numbers range between 11 and 40 000.  But they've had thirty years to kill them and haven't, so it would seem that the bloodlust for jews and christians isn't quite as rampant as you propagandists seem to believe.
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Just because they havent' been exterminated doesn't mean they're treated well.

ajax13:
Psy already said you are a Sockpuppet.  There are about 72 million people in Iran.  They live in an oppressive theocracy dominated by fundamenalist muslims, and they have had thirty years to kill their jews, but they have not.  So it would seem that your interpretation of the relationship of muslims to the literal word of the Qu'ran is somewhat lacking.  Us and them?  Where do you suppose Zionism fits on the continuum of inclusiveness?  You're certainly as disnohest and inconsistent as any Hasbaranik I've come across.  Hasbara follow a number of the same patterns as the TTI folks.  Fear-mongering is central to their promotion.  Empirical evidence is ignored and emotion-driven generalities are substituted.  The rights of others are of no consequence to you, only achievement of your agenda matters.   Since you are plainly using emotion-based propaganda rather than reasoned observation and interpretation, one is left to wonder what your agenda is.

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