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Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses...
« on: September 10, 2010, 06:21:41 PM »
Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses


Published June 18, 2007
Kimberly West


After defeating their rivals in Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement, Muslim extremists are focusing their attacks on Christians in Gaza City. Christians in Gaza City have issued an appeal to the
 international community and a plea for protection against the increased attacks by Muslim extremists.

Father Manuel Musallem, head of Gaza's Latin church, told the AP that Muslims have ransacked, burned and looted a school and convent that are part of the Gaza Strip's small Romany Catholic community. He told the AP that crosses were broken, damage was done to a statue of Jesus, and at the Rosary Sister School and nearby convent, prayer books were burned.

Gunmen used the roof of the school during the fighting, and the convent was "desecrated," Mussalem told the AP.

"Nothing happens by mistake these days," he said.

Father Musalam additionally told The Jerusalem Post that the Muslim gunmen used rocket-propeled grenades (RPGs) to blow through the doors of the church and school, before burning Bibles and destroying every cross they could get their hands on.

Catholic Online reports that the heads of Christian churches in the Holy Land have urged both sides to put aside their weapons, noting that the infighting diverted international attention from the national goal of Palestinian independence.

"This domestic fighting where brother draws his weapon against brother is detrimental to all the aspirations of achieving security and stability for the Palestinian people," they said. "In the name of the one and only God as well as in the name of each devastated Palestinian, many of whom are still dying, we urge our brothers in the Fatah and Hamas movements to listen to the voice of reason, truth and wisdom."

One young woman told the Catholic News Service that she was concerned the Islamic extremists would "enforce a strict dress code, forcing women to wear veils and robes." One Christian teenager spoke to the Catholic News Service on the condition that her name not be used. She said the days of fighting had been "very difficult" but they were "OK now."

"We all hope it will be better, but it will never ever be good with Hamas," she said.

Approximately 2,500 Christians live in Gaza.


CBN Reports--

Leaders of the Christian community in the Strip expressed deep concern over the fate of the Christians living under Hamas. They said most of them wanted to leave Gaza out of fear for their lives.

[Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud] Abbas condemned the attack as barbaric and despicable and blamed Hamas militiamen.

'The torching of the church is one of the fruits of the bloody coup that Hamas staged in the Gaza Strip,' he said.

Several Christian institutions in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank have been targeted by masked gunmen over the past few months.

Sources:

Gaza's Christians fear for their lives, The Jerusalem Post, June 18, 2007, http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 1813061916 (Christians, Muslims, Islam, Palestine, Hamas, Israel, Terror, Terrorism, Jihad, Gaza)

Catholic compound ransacked in Gaza, The Associated Press, June 18, 2007, http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/internat ... ernational (Christians, Muslims, Islam, Palestine, Hamas, Israel, Terror, Terrorism, Jihad, Gaza)

Israel Today, Hamas turns on Gaza Christians, June 18, 2007, http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.as ... &nid=13149 (Christians, Muslims, Islam, Palestine, Hamas, Israel, Terror, Terrorism, Jihad, Gaza)

Christians in Gaza Strip express concern about their future, Catholic News Service, June 18, 2007, http://www.catholic.org/international/i ... p?id=24422 (Christians, Muslims, Islam, Palestine, Hamas, Israel, Terror, Terrorism, Jihad, Gaza)

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=9

 :jamin:


That was in 2007... Of course we all remember it. That was when Americans protested Islam in the streets and some of us exploded?

Oh wait, that's right... that never happened.

American's don't act that way... we just excuse those who do.

Luckily we don't have an Islamic Celebration Day, we might have to strap bombs to ourselves.
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Re: Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses...
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 06:44:24 PM »
Desecration seems to be all the rage over there, Stony:
Israeli forces desecrate 200 graves in Muslim cemetery; injure Sheikh with bulldozer
http://www.imemc.org/article/59264

Jewish settlers protesting against an official Israeli eviction order have desecrated Muslim buildings in the flashpoint West Bank town of Hebron.

They sprayed "Death to Arabs" and an insult to the Prophet Muhammad on a mosque wall and vandalised a cemetery.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7739433.stm
Virgin Mary Statue Desecrated by Israeli Occupation by Saira W. Soufan
 
In a predawn raid on March 14, Israeli tank shells slammed into the Church of the Nativity,

the holy site of the birthplace of Jesus Christ, slicing off the hands and nose of the Virgin

Mary statue.  

 The church, which also houses a hospital and orphanage, sustained a barrage of bullets

and artillery including a tank shell, which punched a bowling ball-sized hole from Israeli

tanks, stationed less than 50 meters away.  Sister Sophie, the nun in charge of the

compound, moved patients within the church hospital to a safer locale.  These included

maternity patients in labor and just delivered.
http://www.jerusalemites.org/crimes/cri ... ity/34.htm
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Re: Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses...
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 06:46:19 PM »
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Desecration seems to be all the rage over there, Stony:
Israeli forces desecrate 200 graves in Muslim cemetery; injure Sheikh with bulldozer
http://www.imemc.org/article/59264

Jewish settlers protesting against an official Israeli eviction order have desecrated Muslim buildings in the flashpoint West Bank town of Hebron.

They sprayed "Death to Arabs" and an insult to the Prophet Muhammad on a mosque wall and vandalised a cemetery.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7739433.stm
Virgin Mary Statue Desecrated by Israeli Occupation by Saira W. Soufan
 
In a predawn raid on March 14, Israeli tank shells slammed into the Church of the Nativity,

the holy site of the birthplace of Jesus Christ, slicing off the hands and nose of the Virgin

Mary statue.  

 The church, which also houses a hospital and orphanage, sustained a barrage of bullets

and artillery including a tank shell, which punched a bowling ball-sized hole from Israeli

tanks, stationed less than 50 meters away.  Sister Sophie, the nun in charge of the

compound, moved patients within the church hospital to a safer locale.  These included

maternity patients in labor and just delivered.
http://www.jerusalemites.org/crimes/cri ... ity/34.htm


Now you attack Jews...

I guess that is what you have to do if you defend Islam.

Next up, those Hindu's really suck.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 06:55:50 PM »
Stony, you are right over the top with that Hasbaranik character.  Nobody attacked anybody.  The subject of the thread was the desecration of religious icons by middle-eastern folks.  I posted a couple of references just like you.  But your character took the typical low-road of the sensationalizing propagandist and created a false scenario by making a baseless accusation.  Wonderful performance, as always Stony.
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Re: Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses...
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 07:27:49 PM »
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Stony, you are right over the top with that Hasbaranik character.  Nobody attacked anybody.  The subject of the thread was the desecration of religious icons by middle-eastern folks.  I posted a couple of references just like you.  But your character took the typical low-road of the sensationalizing propagandist and created a false scenario by making a baseless accusation.  Wonderful performance, as always Stony.


The subject was Muslims burning Bibles, destroying Crosses, and Killing Christians.

OK Pumpkin?
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 08:08:29 PM »
"American's don't act that way... we just excuse those who do."

Again, Stony the subject was people desecrating religious icons in the middle east.  It would seem that it's only excused by Americans when certain middle-easterners do it.  
But back to that bald-faced lie that I attacked jews.  Your character is really doing some edgy stuff.  Entertaining, and highly provocative evocation of a propagandizing liar, Stony.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 08:34:12 PM »
Ajax.  You just don't get it.  Westerners do such things in spite of what they're taught.  Muslims do it because of what they're taught.  You think they blew up the Buddha statues in Afghanistan just because they felt like it?
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2010, 11:06:05 PM »
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38906
Victimizers Play the Victim
by Pamela Geller

09/09/2010
The Associated Press ran a piece recently with this headline: For U.S. Muslims, a 9/11 anniversary like no other. It mimics a press release from Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), and it is, of course, utter nonsense. But it is far more serious than that.

Here again we have the victimizers playing the victim, with the complicity of their shills in the press.

The story said: “American Muslims are boosting security at mosques, seeking help from leaders of other faiths and airing ads underscoring their loyalty to the United States — all ahead of a 9/11 anniversary they fear could bring more trouble for their communities.”

It told readers that the Hamas-linked Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)—an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror funding trial— “will hold a summit of Christian, Muslim and Jewish leaders in Washington ‘to address the growing tide of fear and intolerance’ in the furor over the planned New York mosque.”

We have reached the point where Islamic supremacists and Muslim Brotherhood proxies are virtually dictating their propaganda and fallacious narrative to big media and scribes, who take it down word for word, lie for lie, and report it as fact.

Unindicted co-conspirator, Hamas-linked, Muslim Brotherhood-front CAIR is the go-to guy for all things Islam. Never are they identified for the subversives that they are. Never are their jihadist connections or convicted leadership mentioned.

They’re presented as moderate, objective authorities, just as Anwar Awlaki was the go-to imam for the big media right after 9/11. Awlaki was imam to several of the 9/11 Muslim terrorists, as well as the Fort Hood jihadi, the Christmas day bomber, the Times Square bomber, et al).

The willing dupes in the mainstream media lather, rinse, repeat. They hit bottom and just keep digging. They still don’t get it. In the information battle space, it’s a game, and they are being played. But could the stakes be higher?

Muslims in the U.S. are not the ones living under death threat. People who are standing up to jihad activity and Islamic supremacism are. They are not the ones targeted. We are. They are not getting death threats. We are. They don’t have to live with 24/7/365 heavy duty security, Geert Wilders does. Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Robert Spencer, Ibn Warraq, Salman Rushdie, the producers from Comedy Central, and accidental counter-jihad tourists like Molly Norris live under death threat. As do I.

Good, decent souls speaking out against a radical ideology, gender apartheid and supremacism are demonized and marginalized.

But the media blacks that out. They never report on that. Their narrative of Muslims “living in fear,” and worse still, living in fear on the anniversary of 9/11, is the ultimate insult.

The AP is alleging that Muslims are in fear of 911. Why? We were attacked by Muslim terrorists. What has the Muslim community, the ummah, done to eradicate the ideology that inspired those attacks? Or the Fort Hood jihad, the Fort Dix Six, the Christmas day bomber, the Times Square bomber?

We have waited patiently, have we not? What efforts, in the past nine years, have been made to expunge the Koran of its genocidal prescriptions? With the exception of dawah (proselytizing) camouflaged as “interfaith dialogue,” nothing has been done. The West, meanwhile, has bent over backwards in “outreach,” “mutual understanding,” and “mutual respect.” Where is the reciprocity? And where has it gotten us, except further down the rabbit hole?

Real fear is living as a non-Muslim in Muslim countries under the Sharia. Real fear is living as a Coptic Christian in Egypt. Real fear is living as a Christian in Indonesia. Real fear is a girl going to school in Afghanistan, real fear is being an Israeli awaiting the Islamic nuke, real fear is being a Jew in Europe, or a pro-Israel Jew on many U.S. college campuses. And on and on and on.

First, the concrete facts. Hate crimes directed against Muslims remain relatively rare, according to the latest FBI report. So all this push back by the bullies is a tactic.

We are now being clubbed with two reports of mosque incidents in Tennessee and California. Mind you, many recent mosque incidents have been discovered to have been faked by Muslims, so let’s wait to see who is arrested. And no matter who is responsible, Muslims or non-Muslims, they should prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Synagogues have been desecrated and attacked in record numbers, but no one talks about that. Real attacks. Anti-semitism is at record highs worldwide, the highest since World War II. But only this relentless nonexistent “Islamophobia” gets played on an endless loop, a psy-op on the American psyche—and we are tired of it.

Defense against Islamic jihad is a healthy response to a mortal enemy.

The 9/11 Koran burning in Florida is a dumb idea. I don’t support such acts. Book burnings are always a bad idea. But Muslims have nothing to fear from those Christians. It is insensitive for that church to burn the Koran, but it is still a free country, is it not?

Islamic supremacists can’t whine about “insensitivity” while planning to erect a 15-story mega mosque on Ground Zero.

It is Muslims who should be ripping out the violent passages in the Koran that have inspired 1,400 years of jihadi wars, land appropriations, cultural annihilations and enslavements that resulted in the slaughter of 270 million souls, Muslims among them. Only the Muslim world can reform Islam. What is being done?

This AP article takes the cake. Basically it is saying that if Muslims get violent, it’s our fault.

Responsible journalism is dead.



http://www.persecution.com/

 “You can follow Pope Benedict XVI and his followers who have disfigured humanity and Islam,” the letter said. “There’s no more room for you, infidels, among the Iraqi Muslims. Our swords shall be placed upon your necks and the necks of your followers and other Christians residing in Mosul.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7166932.stm

 
Kenyans burned to death in church
Thirty Kenyans including many children have been burned to death in a church, after seeking refuge from the mounting violence over last week's elections.
A mob set fire to the church in Eldoret where many people from President Mwai Kibaki's Kikuyu tribe were sheltering.

The Kenyan government has accused supporters of opposition leader Raila Odinga of carrying out "ethnic cleansing" against the Kikuyu.

Both President Kibaki and Mr Odinga have called for the killing to stop.

An estimated 250 people have died in the violence that erupted following the controversial re-election of President Kibaki, according to police and journalists across the country.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... ng_fields/

Sharia was signed into law today, a victory for the Obama-backed Odinga putsch. Obama campaigned as far back as 2006 and $upported Islamist Raila Odinga in Kenya, and today, the poisonous fruit of that dangerous liaison became law.

Present at the signing of the new sharia constitution in Kenya was Sudanese President Umar al- Bashir, who is wanted by the International Criminal Court for genocide, and is responsible for the death of millions in a jihad against the people of Darfur and Sudan.

Islamic governments have targeted Kenya as a key element in the spread of Islam in Horn of Africa and ultimately the world. The Kenyan Diaspora including Presidential candidate Sen. Barack Hussein Obama has also played a part. [Atlas Shrugs quoting David Jonsson, February, 2008]


I am sure it was Obama-backed Odinga who invited Bashir. When Obama-backed Odinga lost the election last year, he unleashed a wave of unspeakable violence. Back in January 2008, I first posted on Obama's disturbing and unqualified support of violent inciter, Raila Odinga. He was aligned with Kenyan Muslim leaders who urged the Kenyan government to cut off diplomatic ties with the United States. Kenya's first truly free and fair democratic election was in December 2002, won by Mwai Kibaki and a multi-ethnic coalition party, NARC (National Rainbow Coalition). One of the leaders of that coalition was Raila Odinga.  


Kibaki didn't give him positions in the new government that he felt were important enough, so Odinga formed an opposition party, ODM (Orange Democratic Movement, orange the symbol color of opposition).


When Raila Odinga lost the presidential election  to Mwai Kibaki, he claimed the vote was rigged, whereupon his tribal followers went on murderous rampages ..........  [be sure to watch the video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6eVVVKF ... _embedded#!



http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp490.htm

However, the reality of Christianity under Islam has often been difficult. "Over the centuries, political Islam has not been too kind to the native Christian communities living under its rule. Anecdotes of tolerance aside, the systematic treatment of Christians...is abusive and discriminatory by any standard....Under Islam, the targeted dhimmi community and each individual in it are made to live in a state of perpetual humiliation in the eyes of the ruling community."3 As described by a Christian Lebanese president, Bashir Gemayil: "a Christian...is not a full citizen and cannot exercise political rights in any of the countries which were once conquered byIslam."4

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30366

While Muslims have responded with deadly outrage to the now-retracted report by Newsweek of alleged Quran desecration by U.S. interrogators, there was little outcry three years ago when Islamic terrorists holed up in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity reportedly used the Bible as toilet paper.

http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/c ... 042402.asp

Christians have long been targeted in the Middle East. Thousands of churches were destroyed during the Arab conquest in the seventh century. Ten thousand Lebanese Christians were massacred in 1860s, while over 100,000 were killed in the Lebanese civil war of 1975-1990. Thousands of women were raped. That war was provoked by Yasser Arafat's PLO.

The story of the village of Dammur, where 500 Lebanese were massacred, primarily boys, and whose population was expelled in an ethnic cleansing, symbolizes treatment of Christians in the Middle East. But instead of an international arrest warrant, of course, Arafat received a Nobel Peace Prize. Nine hundred thousand Lebanese left the once-prosperous country during and after the civil war, altering its character forever. The vast majority of them were Christians.

In other corners of the region, ethnic and religious cleansing is a reality. The hard-line Muslim government of Sudan, which harbored Osama bin Laden in the 1990s, murdered between one and two million Sudanese Christians and animists in the south of the country. Christian Copts of Egypt, the descendants of the pharaohs, Assyrians, and Armenians are persecuted, their churches burned down, their communities scattered from Paris to California. Bethlehem, the site of the current holdup, was 70 percent Christian in the 1970s. Today it is close to 70 percent Muslim. Tensions are rising between Christians and Muslims in Nazareth. It seems that this is the scenario Arafat is preparing for Israel.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Gkh0SCeHI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1b5KOsx ... re=related
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Re: Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses...
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 12:41:34 AM »
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"American's don't act that way... we just excuse those who do."

Again, Stony the subject was people desecrating religious icons in the middle east.  It would seem that it's only excused by Americans when certain middle-easterners do it.  
But back to that bald-faced lie that I attacked jews.  Your character is really doing some edgy stuff.  Entertaining, and highly provocative evocation of a propagandizing liar, Stony.


My character?

Never changes...

You attack me, but you are the offender.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2010, 01:10:15 AM »
Sockpuppet, back again, spouting hateful, illogical  drivel.  Rather than puking up your bigoted propaganda, why not take some time to reflect on why you had to pick another user-name for your hate spiel.  It's propaganda because it's intended to manipulate and influence.  Hence it's entirely subjective content.  It's not based in empricism.  You cannot possibly know what muslims are taught.  In fact, it is abundantly clear that your assessment of what they are taught is entirely wrong.  You and Hasbaranik make a perfect example.  You are attempting to teach your concept that Muslims are to be feared because they interpret the teachings of Muhammed literally and are compelled to explicitly obey every single aspect of this dogma.  This does not reflect reality in any way.  Muslim scholars have, for hundreds of years, debated the relationship of Muslims to their scriptures.  So you can say that they're hypocritical if they don't follow to the letter the teachings of Mohammed, but clearly hundreds of millions of muslims disagree with you.  But you seem to think so highly of yourself and your opinion, in spite of the lack of evidence to back it up, and the ample evidence to nullify it, that you are compelled to emit it on the internet.  
Your argument is garbage.  Many westerners are taught to despise and kill, and for millennia they've done just that.  Clearly, many muslims are taught to behave in a peaceful, respectful manner and they do just that.
A fine example is the tens of thousands of muslims killed by the United States armed forces, who were taught to do just that.  Another example is the continued existence of jews in iran.  The estimated numbers range between 11 and 40 000.  But they've had thirty years to kill them and haven't, so it would seem that the bloodlust for jews and christians isn't quite as rampant as you propagandists seem to believe.
They've had thirty  years to blow this shit up, what gives with those Mooslims?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Stepanos_Monastery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Stepanos_Monastery

They've had a lot longer than that to blow up this stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borobudur_Temple_Compounds
Is it your own inadequacies that makes people like you  bigots?
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2010, 01:14:56 AM »
Stony, that aspect of the zealot resorting to outright lies is great, and I'm sure you'll blow us all away with your routine using that.  Your completely false claim that I had attacked jews was tremendous.  No basis whatsoever, and you just went with it.  It is truly a comprehensive examination of a fundamenally dishonest individual frustrated by his own limitations.  Tremendously funny, and edgy.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2010, 02:02:33 AM »
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Sockpuppet, back again, spouting hateful, illogical  drivel.

I'm not a sockpuppet.  Ask Psy to confirm.  If you're right, you can have me banned.  Otherwise you should probably shut up.

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Rather than puking up your bigoted propaganda, why not take some time to reflect on why you had to pick another user-name for your hate spiel.  It's propaganda because it's intended to manipulate and influence.  Hence it's entirely subjective content.  It's not based in empricism.  You cannot possibly know what muslims are taught.

This is not Scientology with secret (leaked) teachings.  The Qur'an and ahadith are quite public.  All you have to do to know what Muslims are taught is to read them.  They're quite explicit in their teachings and very little is up to interpretation.  "strike off their fingers" or "kill" can only be interpreted so many ways.

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In fact, it is abundantly clear that your assessment of what they are taught is entirely wrong.  You and Hasbaranik make a perfect example.  You are attempting to teach your concept that Muslims are to be feared because they interpret the teachings of Muhammed literally and are compelled to explicitly obey every single aspect of this dogma.

Not at all.  Most Muslims are hypocrites and do not follow their religion.

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This does not reflect reality in any way.  Muslim scholars have, for hundreds of years, debated the relationship of Muslims to their scriptures.  So you can say that they're hypocritical if they don't follow to the letter the teachings of Mohammed, but clearly hundreds of millions of muslims disagree with you.

In public.  Try and ask one of them to condemn Hamas or Hisbollah as a terrorist organization, however.  You'll often be shocked at the responses.

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But you seem to think so highly of yourself and your opinion, in spite of the lack of evidence to back it up, and the ample evidence to nullify it, that you are compelled to emit it on the internet.

What evidence to nullify it?  What abrogates Sura 9, which commands the subjugation, conversion, or genocide of unbelievers?  What abrogates the command for husbands to beat their wives if they are disobedient.

Really.  The only thing that differentiates an ideology like Nazism and Islam is age and religious status.  Both divide the world into "us" and "them" categories.  Both have dead charismatic figures who are seen as infallible.  Both teach genocide of the jews.  Did everything Synanon did suddenly become OK when they gained status as a church?  Scientology, the self help philosophy turned "religion"?  All you've learned how to do is to tolerate intolerance because the world around you tells you that you must turn a blind eye to anything deemed a "Religion" -- that you must show tolerance, even to those who are taught to kill you.

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Your argument is garbage.  Many westerners are taught to despise and kill, and for millennia they've done just that.  Clearly, many muslims are taught to behave in a peaceful, respectful manner and they do just that.

Sure, and they should be left alone... Just like neo-nazis who choose to accomplish their goals through peaceful protest and political process.  It would be idiotic to deny that the ideologies are benign, however.

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A fine example is the tens of thousands of muslims killed by the United States armed forces, who were taught to do just that.  Another example is the continued existence of jews in iran.  The estimated numbers range between 11 and 40 000.  But they've had thirty years to kill them and haven't, so it would seem that the bloodlust for jews and christians isn't quite as rampant as you propagandists seem to believe.

Just because they havent' been exterminated doesn't mean they're treated well.
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Re: Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses...
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2010, 01:39:08 PM »
Psy already said you are a Sockpuppet.  There are about 72 million people in Iran.  They live in an oppressive theocracy dominated by fundamenalist muslims, and they have had thirty years to kill their jews, but they have not.  So it would seem that your interpretation of the relationship of muslims to the literal word of the Qu'ran is somewhat lacking.  Us and them?  Where do you suppose Zionism fits on the continuum of inclusiveness?  You're certainly as disnohest and inconsistent as any Hasbaranik I've come across.  Hasbara follow a number of the same patterns as the TTI folks.  Fear-mongering is central to their promotion.  Empirical evidence is ignored and emotion-driven generalities are substituted.  The rights of others are of no consequence to you, only achievement of your agenda matters.   Since you are plainly using emotion-based propaganda rather than reasoned observation and interpretation, one is left to wonder what your agenda is.
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