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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2003, 11:43:00 AM »
Any guess-timates on how much money these programs have contributed to the LDS (Mormon) coffers?  

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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2003, 09:37:00 PM »
the standard tithe is ten percent.  i'm not sure if that's calculated on the gross or the net.
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2003, 10:23:00 PM »
Can we say CASH COW here?
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2003, 10:54:00 PM »
Since when are companies asked for a "tithe" - I thought that was an individual thing given to their church.  Don't Catholics or other churches have donations or love offerings - it doesn't matter what the name for it is, they all do it.  And what difference does it make?  Healing families doesn't come free unless you expect your state to do it for you. LOL!
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2003, 08:05:00 PM »
Incidentals - 400 times $95.00 per month is another how much? My God, how much money does one make off of desperate parents and IMHO abusing kids?
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2003, 08:34:00 PM »
$38,000.00 so what does that pay for?
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2003, 09:09:00 PM »
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"Incidentals - 400 times $95.00 per month is another how much? My God, how much money does one make off of desperate parents and IMHO abusing kids?"


Well, if that's what parents are willing to pay to control their children, so be it.  I mean, this is an industry driven by PARENT DEMAND.  These parents had a choice to JUST SAY NO!!!
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2003, 09:12:00 PM »
Amen.  The parents were very negligent.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2003, 09:16:00 PM »
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"Being afraid to be sent back?  I would think that's a good thing - stay clean, out of trouble, then they wouldn't be sent back.  No one sends their kid back for normal teenage stuff, do they?  "


According to a growing number of former WWASP parents, a lot of them send their kids in there for normal teenaged stuff in the first place. But what's normal? Is criticizing the program not one of the signs of returning to old, manupulative ways? Do you really want your kid to go through life just going through the motions to please you because they're afraid you'll send them off to be tortured? I know you must be pretty emersed in program dogma these days. But to the rest of the world, do you have any idea how utterly sick that is?
 

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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2003, 09:39:00 PM »
Parents are tryng to get the kids help. they were frauded, told that there would be a cultural experience, education, therapy, and we got lies. Dont say we agreed to this abuse, we didnt. We were not told about OP or the truth of.
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2003, 09:44:00 PM »
I don't care how emotional you were when your child was in crisis - each of the schools has a very different version of "OP" - did you think your child would be sent to their room or grounded when they tried to hurt someone or themselves?  Get real! They are "observed" away from their peers for however long it takes.
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2003, 11:16:00 PM »
Being OBSERVED is different from being abused. Being OBSERVED is not having your arms twisted, haveing large people sit on you, having your chin crushed into the concrte floor, having to lay in one position for hours with very brief intervals, Sorry OP was never described for the reality it is. Why do you think that is?
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2003, 11:57:00 PM »
Well, obviously some parents believe the ends justify the means.  How else can you explain such indifference to the safety and well-being of these kids? Second, ignorance is NOT AN EXCUSE but sure seems to be used by parents in lieu of taking the greater responsibility for the care and treatment of their own kids.  

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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2003, 08:23:00 AM »
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Parents are tryng to get the kids help. they were frauded, told that there would be a cultural experience, education, therapy, and we got lies. Dont say we agreed to this abuse, we didnt. We were not told about OP or the truth of.

Yes you were told about OP.  They did not call it OP, but you were told about it.  It is in the contract, you just did not understand what you were signing evidently.  It even states that those who place your child in OP were not trained or qualified in any way to do so...it goes further to say that you could not hold the school liable if something happened to your child because of the untrained staff that placed them in OP.  

Yes the brochure show quite a glossy view of the places, but the contract you signed is quite to the contrary, it says something very different.

 
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Well, obviously some parents believe the ends justify the means. How else can you explain such indifference to the safety and well-being of these kids? Second, ignorance is NOT AN EXCUSE but sure seems to be used by parents in lieu of taking the greater responsibility for the care and treatment of their own kids.


That says it all!
 

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« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2003, 12:24:00 PM »
I'm just curious about how the contract reads regarding OP. Anyone have a copy of a contract and willing to spell it out? How WWASP describes it to parents, that is.
In my situation (not wwasp) there were things mentioned in the parent handbook, but they were implemented very differently. There was no mention of the "restriction diet". It was touched on at the parent workshop before the first visit. The headmaster told parents they would probably hear about it, but not to worry- while "sparse" he had it approved by the health dept.
Months later, and many red flags later I checked with the health dept. They had never talked to anyone at the facility and further stated that it wasn't in their scope to approved any kind of diet.
That wasn't the only discrepency in stated policy and procedure.
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