Trolling Mom wrote:
"They've answered my questions, both positive and negative and told me what I need to know, not what I need to hear. Why else would I be here. I've seen that most of this is NOT about abuse, but about issues with a spouse, a parent, an organization, but not about what really matters.
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Uuhhh...issues with an organization? Bet your booties! You are incorrect in stating that this board is about issues with a spouse, etc. This board is about what happens when issues with a spouse, etc., are handed over to a money-hungry corporation who promises to return a cookie-cutter child whose self and self-esteem have been pummeled into submission. You are also incorrect in that this corporation DOES in fact tell you exactly what you want to hear, not what you need to know.
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Trolling Mom says further:
"Melissa, I really don't see anything you've written that would convince me that your "abuse" was with this program, but with your issues with your dad and his girlfriend."
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You have read postings by Melissa, and you have made a statement that puts the blame on the trauma that Melissa has lived through entirely on her shoulders. You expect her to understand, according to your logic, that if she didn't "have issues" with her dad and his girlfriend, she wouldn't have had the horrific experience of WWASPS. How dare you trivialize another's live-changing experience by saying, "It's your own fault". You, madam, are the quintessential WWASPS parent, and you exhibit the mentality of one who will search high and low to find validation for your own kid's problems: "It's your own fault".
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She continues:
"The kids I've talked to explained to me about restraints and when they're used - the levels and when they get certain priviledges, the parent seminars which i'm really excited about and hanging in there during the next year or two while we're bringing our family to a healthier place."
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How many times a year in a high school of 2500 rampant-hormone, slipping-and-sliding-toward-adulthood kids is "restraint" necessary? I would venture to say NEVER. How many times a year in a booking room of a local jail is restraint necessary? Occasionally, but even with criminals entering jail, restraint beyond the required handcuffs is almost unheard-of. How many times in a year at a WWASPS facility is restraint "necessary"? Judging from survivors' reports, it's an everyday occurrence. Why?
And, if intense weekend seminars away from home and the family at a hotel, receiving validation that it is, indeed, THE KID's OWN FAULT, you are a WWASPS dream-come-true. There are no facts which will change your mind. You have come to this board to validate your already-formed conclusion. Someone else has to fix this problem for you, because it's your kid's own fault and you need a lot of rah-rah time to drown out his calls for help.
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To finish, Troll Mom said:
"So, bring it on, tell me what a bad parent I am for doing this, tell me how terrible wwasp is and quote newspaper articles, I've read them all. I've read all the bickering and attacks here and it shows me that this is not where I want to get my info from."
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Why so defensive? Aren't you strongly convinced that you are doing the right thing? Should we on this board really care enough to respond to you? Do you need fuel for your indignation that lying survivors are supposed to provide? Unfortunately, your child is doomed. I have a child out of WWASPS (my grandaughter), and I can say with some certainty that you, Mom, will never again receive that open love from your child. Maybe you don't want it. But your life as a parent (which should go on until you die) will never be a good one. But then, Tony Robbins and his tapes might make a good substitute.
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"I have the most respect for Carey and what she has shared. I guess that makes me crazy too."
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...probably makes Carey puke. She hates WWASPS and what it did to her children. She has taken a path many of us don't understand and has veered off into her own vendetta, but, no mistake, Carey hates WWASPS.
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FWIW, my log-in is Spots, and you might consider searching some of my posts. I tend to contribute anecdotes of everyday life at WWASPS Casa by the Sea (recently demised), and you can consider whether you want your child to live this life for the next couple of years.