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is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised?
BuzzKill:
Perhaps to this British citizen a couple of blocks means a few yards - it is a relative term unless one is actually taking a measurement, and a Brit would not use yards so possibly this term has little more precise meaning to him than kilometer does for me.
One thing is for sure he is not lying, but the Islamic cleric IS because this is what his prophet tells him he must do when dealing with infidels'; because Islame is at war with all others and war is deceit. They are Liars and murderers and theives of freedom, prosperity and culture.
I hope every pig farmer in the nation is storing up great buckets of swine blood and refuse to dump all over the threshold of this monstrosity should they ever actually attempt to build it.
ajax13:
A few yards is a false representation of the geographic relationship of the facility to "ground zero". The man is lying to manipulate the viewer. The question remains, what is the purpose of this manipulation?
Anne Bonney:
They have a right to build it where they want. People have a right to tell them they think it's in poor taste and will do nothing to further relations. People don't have a right to attempt to get the government to stop it just because it's "offensive". Just as in the instances of KKK rallies. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are there to protect freedoms. Sometimes that includes people saying or doing things we don't like.
BuzzKill:
No one is disputing they have a right to build. The city counsel did have a right to stop its going up on that spot if they felt the building to be demolished was of historical significance. They said it is not. So, they can build. The governor or mayor or president have no say in the matter. All they can do is express an opinion which they have done, and which I and many others find to be disturbingly ignorant and politically correct to a ridiculous degree.
We have got to get real with regard to what Islam is. We have got to understand this monstrosity is an declaration of Victory; an out-post and command center in the war against the infidel.
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/08/g ... osque.html
Liberal America can not afford to be warm and fuzzy on the issue of Islam. Cold, hard, very unpleasant facts must be faced. They must admit and acknowledge the concept of taqqiya and Abrogation and what these concepts mean for us, the Infidel, when dealing with them - the Islamic faithful.
For you ajax: "THE FACTS: As noted above, it is not unreasonable to characterize the site as being “at” Ground Zero, given that it was one of the buildings damaged in the 9/11 attack, is within the zone over which the remains of the murdered were scattered and has been called by the promoter of the initiative himself “the Ground Zero mosque.”
http://bigjournalism.com/fgaffney/2010/ ... ro-mosque/
see also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQOCcx5V9RI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdX1qpCt ... re=related
and just for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmffgIqlAYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI9GLSGy ... r_embedded
Finely I'd like to suggest: Read the following, and if it seems reasonable to you sign it -
http://www.groundzerodeclaration.org/th ... claration/
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "BuzzKill" ---No one is disputing they have a right to build.
--- End quote ---
Oh yes they are. And many of them are putting pressure on the gov't to stop it. And if it's just about the location, as many of the protesters say, why are Mosques in Tennessee and other states being protested? Hell, the one in Tennessee was just burned down. Why are there Q'uran burnings? How far away is far enough? It's being labeled as the "ground zero" Mosque even though it's a full 2 blocks (and NYC blocks at that) away from 'ground zero'.
And sorry, Christianity isn't so peaceful itself. Crusades? Inquisition? Abortion clinic bombings? Doctor killings? The Murrah building in Oklahoma City? Now we've got Q'uran burning and Mosque destruction.
We have religious freedom in this country. It applies to all religions, not just Christianity or the ones we like.
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