General Interest > Tacitus' Realm
The Muslim Hijacking of Ground Zero
ajax13:
http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comi ... dern_world
IslamIsViolent:
--- Quote from: "Antigen" ---Withdraw from foreign entanglements, including Israel, Saudi Arabia, So. America and all the other 200+ foreign nations in which we are inappropriately, unconstitutionally involved.
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That would make us safe. For a while. See. Israel is the only western democracy in the region. Women have full equality. They serve in the military. Even gays have full equality and serve in the military. Muslims hate this. It's like putting a gay bar up next to a church (or a mosque). Well. You let the churchgoers burn down that gay bar, gain strength, and sooner or later they're going to expand and start burning down gay bars all over the world. Israel is that persistent little gay bar. Israel is the cork in the bottle. Without Israel, Muslim fundamentalists would turn their full and undivided attention towards the west. It's a lot cheaper in the long run to defend Israel than it is to deal with a worldwide Jihad. Israel is a battleground in a proxy war between the west and Islam. It's not a war we started but it's a war we can't afford to ignore or lose.
Ps: there is little if all in the constitution about foreign policy and even Jefferson refused to negotiate with Islam. Jefferson himself thought very very little of Islam. He owned a Qur'an not because he admired the religion but because he wanted to understand his enemy (at the time Jizya (tribute) was being demanded of the United States, justified in the Qur'an)
--- Quote ---As Jefferson later reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:
The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.
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(basically condensing and paraphrasing Sura 9 of the Qur'an)
Appeasement was too expensive as they just kept asking more and more. Our ultimate answer was to bomb the fuck out of them until they decided to neglect adhering to that part of the Qur'an. Problem solved.
ajax13:
--- Quote from: "IslamIsViolent" --- Our ultimate answer was to bomb the fuck out of them until they decided to neglect adhering to that part of the Qur'an. Problem solved.
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"Our ultimate answer"? Hasbaranik at work. No posts related to the TTI, just propaganda related to Israel and the War on Terror. The War on Terror, brought to you by the folks who gave you the War on Drugs.
IslamIsViolent:
--- Quote from: "ajax13" ---
--- Quote from: "IslamIsViolent" --- Our ultimate answer was to bomb the fuck out of them until they decided to neglect adhering to that part of the Qur'an. Problem solved.
--- End quote ---
"Our ultimate answer"? Hasbaranik at work. No posts related to the TTI, just propaganda related to Israel and the War on Terror. The War on Terror, brought to you by the folks who gave you the War on Drugs.
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I am not a "Hasbaranik", not that it matters. Quiz me on program knowledge and you'll find i'm a regular reader here. This isn't a political issue. I'm not a republican. I am not a Christian. I don't support the war on terror as it's being waged and I never supported the war in Iraq. Atheist liberals have more to fear than 'conservative' christians. Atheists don't get the choice to become Dhimmi second class citizens. For them it's the gallows or the mosque.
From where i'm standing you're acting like an Aarcolite program apologist. Programs will spread if not opposed. So will Islam. Synanon was a fucked up cul that became a religion. So was Islam. Pretending either isn't a threat and treating the situation with half-measures and political correctness is what allows both ideologies to spread.
ajax13:
Nobody alleged that you were a Christian. You're a propagandist. Hasbaranik is a suitable term inasmuch as your propaganda is anti-Muslim and pro-Israeli. You clearly read my posts, as borne out by your stereotypical comment about me being Canadian and Canadian hate speech policy. A Hasbaranik by any other name would smell as sweet. Here's an example of folks doing the same kind of work:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... lavon.html
This article is entertaining as it presents a whole lot of information about a variety of subjects but never succinctly states the nature of the operation, which was to blow up US and British facilities and lay the blame on other people, all for the strategic benefit of Israel:
"These operations were to "make it clear to the whole world that Egypt's new rulers were nothing but a group of foolhardy extremists, unreliable and unworthy of taking charge of an asset as important as the Suez Canal. Furthermore, it was to be demonstrated that their grasp on power was uncertain, that they faced powerful internal opposition, and, consequently, they were unworthy of being counted upon as a dependable ally."
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