Academy at Sisters

[Paul St. John]

I know I'll make it through, and do what is necessary,

That is what is most is important.

but I haven't yet excepted that this is what I've gotten myself into.

This whole thing(the program) is all part of something bigger.  It has to do with your parent's orientation of life.

It's just a bit tough to fathom.

LOL!  I know... Be strong.. I say that to you.. a thousand times over.  Whatever strategy you end up adopting, be strong.  Don't forget that.  There are things far stronger then any program, even though it will not seem like it a lot of the time.  Be strong, and give yourself credit, Morgan.
It's just an experience.  It is not you.

Paul

[Paul St. John]

I thank you for your kind words

You're welcome.

Paul

[Whooter]

No. She cannot ‘choose to work on her personal self and issues.’ This is coming under explicit, forced direction with the threat of punishment. This situation robs her of that possibility.

Awake, my daughter was able to resolve many issues at ASR (that she had been working on at home with her therapist).  I believe I read that AAS has individual therapy available to the children there which will allow Morgan to work on the issues that she chooses to work on.  I may be wrong, I will check the details on their site again.



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[MorganMDC]

No. She cannot ‘choose to work on her personal self and issues.’ This is coming under explicit, forced direction with the threat of punishment. This situation robs her of that possibility.

Awake, my daughter was able to resolve many issues at ASR (that she had been working on at home with her therapist).  I believe I read that AAS has individual therapy available to the children there which will allow Morgan to work on the issues that she chooses to work on.  I may be wrong, I will check the details on their site again.



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It's group therapy, or so I understand it to be.
It's the issues they chose.

[Whooter]

No. She cannot ‘choose to work on her personal self and issues.’ This is coming under explicit, forced direction with the threat of punishment. This situation robs her of that possibility.

Awake, my daughter was able to resolve many issues at ASR (that she had been working on at home with her therapist).  I believe I read that AAS has individual therapy available to the children there which will allow Morgan to work on the issues that she chooses to work on.  I may be wrong, I will check the details on their site again.



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It's group therapy, or so I understand it to be.
It's the issues they chose.

You are right, Morgan, they do offer group therapy.  But I also thought that they offered individual therapy at AAS.  That is what I was referring to.



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[MorganMDC]

No. She cannot ‘choose to work on her personal self and issues.’ This is coming under explicit, forced direction with the threat of punishment. This situation robs her of that possibility.

Awake, my daughter was able to resolve many issues at ASR (that she had been working on at home with her therapist).  I believe I read that AAS has individual therapy available to the children there which will allow Morgan to work on the issues that she chooses to work on.  I may be wrong, I will check the details on their site again.



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It's group therapy, or so I understand it to be.
It's the issues they chose.

You are right, Morgan, they do offer group therapy.  But I also thought that they offered individual therapy at AAS.  That is what I was referring to.



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Not that I've seen.

[Pile of Dead Kids]

And in case you think that anyone's talking about therapy as it is understood by the actual psychological world, take a good look at the CEDU forum.

[Paul St. John]

There is never any resolution in group therapy.. I sat through so many hours of it, everyday for half a year.  It is not directed towards resolution.

[Whooter]

And in case you think that anyone's talking about therapy as it is understood by the actual psychological world, take a good look at the CEDU forum.

Why should anyone look at the CEDU forum?  I believe CEDU closed.  You should check the thread title, Pile.  This is Academy at Sisters.



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[Whooter]

There is never any resolution in group therapy.. I sat through so many hours of it, everyday for half a year.  It is not directed towards resolution.

Group therapy is okay and helps but hopefully they offer her individual therapy as well.



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[Paul St. John]

I have to disagree with you Whooter.  You are revealing your inner-most self to a large group of random people.  It is ego(self) diminsihing, and it never seemed to me, that there was even any intention to resolve only issues.  It seemed like it's only purpose was to bring everyone down to the same level.

Again, I am only talking from my experiences, but all people ever talked about was one bad thing after another.  All they ever gave attention to was their most vulnerable parts, over and over.  One of the most fundamental lessons of learning is you- you get more of what you reinforce.  I watched these people convince themselves, that they were nothing more then their problems.... that their problem and weaknesses were their TRUE identity, and so they took on behaviors accordingly.  Now, if you talked say a little bit about the time your cat got ran over, or when your sister died, or when your dad tried to kill you with a baseball bat, or how scared you are, or how miserable you are, but then went on to talk about things such as -

1 what you learned from the experience
2 how to put these things into perspective
3 or identifying reality more clearly to put these things into focus
4 or how other people had overcome similar problems...

or a lot of other useful thing..

then maybe it could be beneficial...

but to just have an orgy of people telling terrible stories.. other people asking questions about... and then someone else saying " I got a similar story", and the whole thing repeating all over again... after many hours of this each day, you just walk away and say..

What was the purpose of all this?


Paul

[Awake]

How do you make her want therapy?


Resistant teens being commonplace in these therapeutic programs I'm quite certain that they are well aware of this commonplace occurence.  So how do they manage to force a resistant person to want therapy from them?

[Paul St. John]

How do you make her want therapy?


Resistant teens being commonplace in these therapeutic programs I'm quite certain that they are well aware of this commonplace occurence.  So how do they manage to force a resistant person to want therapy from them?

With the group therapy, it is not that hard.

A lot of people would like to dwell on their problems, but most of do not, because, while it is a very easy thing to do, we know that it i snot beneficial, and will not help us in life.

But when you see one person after another do it, and all the attention they get as a result, before too long, most people are like...

"ewww  ewww.. My turn...."

and sometimes, it even turns into competitions about who had it worse..

but what the fuck do you get for that an " I had it worse" badge.

In life, it amounts to nothing, but feeling sorry for yourself.

Paul

[Ursus]

And in case you think that anyone's talking about therapy as it is understood by the actual psychological world, take a good look at the CEDU forum.

Why should anyone look at the CEDU forum?  I believe CEDU closed.  You should check the thread title, Pile.  This is Academy at Sisters.

As you well know, the heads of the hydra that is CEDU keep cropping up again and again. For some reason, CEDU philosophy, methodologies and protocols have worked their way into more than just a program or two in the state of Oregon.

Mount Bachelor Academy was, of course, the most infamous one of late ... due, for the most part, to their utilization of the Lifesteps seminars/workshops which were based on CEDU's seminars/workshops. Another Aspen program in Oregon which also uses Lifesteps is NorthStar.

And here, in this very thread, with regard to Academy at Sisters, a number of references and connections to CEDU have already cropped up...

[MorganMDC]

How do you make her want therapy?


Resistant teens being commonplace in these therapeutic programs I'm quite certain that they are well aware of this commonplace occurence.  So how do they manage to force a resistant person to want therapy from them?

I wonder that for others.