Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Facility Question and Answers
Glenhaven Academy or Walden Street School
sad:
I came onto this site because I am aware of the cruelty that many children have sadly and unfortunately experienced at certain facilities. It is a crime of immeasurable proportions! And the criminals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! I am here to find out which places to stay far away from. I am not easily pursuaded into anything, i take my time researching and researching and speaking with graduates of these programs.
My kid's situation is quite different, it's not that I am sending her anywhere; she has conflict of loyalty betweeen her dad and myself. complicated situation. Dad hospitalized her cuz she was so deperessed living with him (this is what she stated to docs), and she doesnt want to come home to me cuz then she will 'lose' dad's 'love'. complicated indeed.
Dad hospitalized her and she wanted to remain in the hospital; she wanted to live there. This kid does no drugs, no crime, no addictions, but an innocent child victim.
The hospital referred her to the wilderness place so she can work through this loyalty issue. she also feels she's at fault, that because of her 'misbehavior' dad and mom split up. Of course it's not true, but she's living with this nightmarish guilt and conflict of loyalty and has been abused physically and psychologically. dear her.
She's had multiple traumas and I certainly don't want her to be in a 'tough love' program. she needs a lot of nurturance and empathy, not tough love.
Thanks all for your input; i will sort things out and tease things apart and hope for a successful outcome.
Pile of Dead Kids:
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Oh holy crap you do not want a girl that innocent involved in any of this shit at all. A hospital referred her to a wilderness program?!
*shakes head in disbelief*
Maybe that's why they did it- because they knew of a place she'd definitely want to come home from...
Bring her home, put her in front of the computer, and get your damn stopwatch, because I can get some friends together and we can teach this girl self-interest at speeds usually reserved for certain Hispanic mice and blue hedgehogs. Teaching a teenage girl self-interest- Christ I have a hard time even typing that, that's like teaching fish how to swim.
But even if you don't trust me, get her the hell out of there anyway, because a wilderness program that makes money on keeping her there + her problem being not wanting to come home = THINGS WILL GET WORSE.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "sad" ---I came onto this site because I am aware of the cruelty that many children have sadly and unfortunately experienced at certain facilities. It is a crime of immeasurable proportions! And the criminals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! I am here to find out which places to stay far away from. I am not easily pursuaded into anything, i take my time researching and researching and speaking with graduates of these programs.
My kid's situation is quite different, it's not that I am sending her anywhere; she has conflict of loyalty betweeen her dad and myself. complicated situation. Dad hospitalized her cuz she was so deperessed living with him (this is what she stated to docs), and she doesnt want to come home to me cuz then she will 'lose' dad's 'love'. complicated indeed.
Dad hospitalized her and she wanted to remain in the hospital; she wanted to live there. This kid does no drugs, no crime, no addictions, but an innocent child victim.
The hospital referred her to the wilderness place so she can work through this loyalty issue. she also feels she's at fault, that because of her 'misbehavior' dad and mom split up. Of course it's not true, but she's living with this nightmarish guilt and conflict of loyalty and has been abused physically and psychologically. dear her.
She's had multiple traumas and I certainly don't want her to be in a 'tough love' program. she needs a lot of nurturance and empathy, not tough love.
Thanks all for your input; i will sort things out and tease things apart and hope for a successful outcome.
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Look, Sad, Clearly your daughter would not do well in a program environment. She seems sensitive and is reaching out for help and needs family right now, not some strangers to straighten her out and whip her into shape. As far as you have stated your daughter hasn’t done anything to indicate she is at-risk. She is depressed and doesn’t want to be around you or her father right now.
You and your husband should gather yourselves up and bring your daughter into family therapy (with a good therapist) to see what would be best for her (not the family). You are only seeing (reporting)what is going on on the surface.
Wilderness is great for taking a child out of their toxic environment for a few weeks to discover what is going on and is fairly benign, but there is no long term healing that takes place there. (maybe a quick recalibration for those kids who need it and/or redirection).
If you are truly sincere in your posts you should consider telling us more of what led up to you posting here, otherwise your story doesn’t really add up. Something isn’t right, in my opinion.
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sad:
her depression led to a suicide attempt. and she stopped eating and drinking for days. Clearly she is in acute pain but she does not have the communication skills, instead she acts out, in depressive catatonic situations. and in suicide attempts. she would not sit in the same room as me, so family therapy is out for now. she will protect dad at all costs.
Pile of Dead Kids:
--- Quote from: "sad" ---her depression led to a suicide attempt. and she stopped eating and drinking for days. Clearly she is in acute pain but she does not have the communication skills, instead she acts out, in depressive catatonic situations. and in suicide attempts. she would not sit in the same room as me, so family therapy is out for now. she will protect dad at all costs.
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You really, REALLY do not want your suicidal daughter in a wilderness program.
Cliffs are.. how should I put this..? A popular choice.
Similarly, a depressive catatonic who stops fluid intake in an environment with heat exposure and dehydration? I'll just let you visualize what can go wrong there.
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