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Open Sky Wilderness in Colorado
Oz girl:
Open sky is run by Emily Demong her bio said she got her start at aspen acheivement academy. The admissions counsellor Lauren Lollini also worked at aac at the time british brat camp was filmed. This place has a long history of disturbing incidents. One boy tried to hang himself. Another incident involved some boys running away and wandering alone in the utah desert in the dangerously hot summer months for days.
The british version of brat camp also depicted one girl getting into a an argument with her admissions counsellors and throwing her shoe at them in temper. The response was for 2 women twice her size to wrestle her to the ground. When she cried out in pain one woman pushed her arm further up her back to show her what "real pain" was. The same series also showed another uncooperative girl being subjected to their "pain compliance technique" which consisted of giving her Chinese burns till she became obedient. This girl was obviously pretty stubborn because they said it went on for a couple of hours. This was the stuff they were willing to be open about. I cant imagine what they do to kids behind closed doors. You say your daughter is acting out due to trauma. Some of the more confronting therapies may exacerbate this. This could potentially lead to physical abuse. Ask the staff a lot of questions about what their time at aspen achievement academy taught them as professionals. Then ask why they condoned the practices of a place that uses pain compliance and see what they say.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Oz girl" ---Open sky is run by Emily Demong her bio said she got her start at aspen acheivement academy. The admissions counsellor Lauren Lollini also worked at aac at the time british brat camp was filmed. This place has a long history of disturbing incidents. One boy tried to hang himself. Another incident involved some boys running away and wandering alone in the utah desert in the dangerously hot summer months for days.
The british version of brat camp also depicted one girl getting into a an argument with her admissions counsellors and throwing her shoe at them in temper. The response was for 2 women twice her size to wrestle her to the ground. When she cried out in pain one woman pushed her arm further up her back to show her what "real pain" was. The same series also showed another uncooperative girl being subjected to their "pain compliance technique" which consisted of giving her Chinese burns till she became obedient. This girl was obviously pretty stubborn because they said it went on for a couple of hours. This was the stuff they were willing to be open about. I cant imagine what they do to kids behind closed doors. You say your daughter is acting out due to trauma. Some of the more confronting therapies may exacerbate this. This could potentially lead to physical abuse. Ask the staff a lot of questions about what their time at aspen achievement academy taught them as professionals. Then ask why they condoned the practices of a place that uses pain compliance and see what they say.
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Just to be clear all those events have nothing to do with “Open sky Wilderness”. They occurred someplace else.
It is Just like describing the events that occurred at Columbine High School and implying they occur at every high school. They don’t.
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Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Just to be clear all those events have nothing to do with “Open sky Wilderness”. They occurred someplace else.
It is Just like describing the events that occurred at Columbine High School and implying they occur at every high school. They don’t.
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Just to be clear, regular high schools do not employ the same emotional tactics that RTCs, Wilderness Camps and the like to. Most of these places utilize the same methods, which is why they're all so similar. Columbine was a couple of truly disturbed kids. The programs' damages are usually done either by staff or at the direction thereof. Big difference, but you knew that already. Get some new material.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Just to be clear all those events have nothing to do with “Open sky Wilderness”. They occurred someplace else.
It is Just like describing the events that occurred at Columbine High School and implying they occur at every high school. They don’t.
--- End quote ---
Just to be clear, regular high schools do not employ the same emotional tactics that RTCs, Wilderness Camps and the like to. Most of these places utilize the same methods, which is why they're all so similar. Columbine was a couple of truly disturbed kids. The programs' damages are usually done either by staff or at the direction thereof. Big difference, but you knew that already. Get some new material.
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You may not agree with the comparison I made and that is a different issue. But the events that Oz Girl described did not occur at "Open Sky Wilderness". Its important for the readers to be aware of that. If you feel all wilderness programs are the same that is okay and is your opinion. But we need to be clear on the facts.
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Pile of Dead Kids:
And just to be more clear, we're talking about things that the exact same people (Emily Demong and Laura Lollini) working at one facility were involved in, before moving to another facility. Exact same people, exact same environment, exact same "therapy"; the only difference is the name.
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