Valley View School Abuse

[Whooter]

You took that out of context Whootius Maximus, reading comprehention was never your strong suit.
You even earned your own damn Icon  
Hey you are missing the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox right now>

If I felt you would be rattled and stand up and speak out when others (here on fornits) took comments out of context I would apologize.  But people seem to only get upset when “I” take things out of context.  Why is that?

Why is it okay to say, for example:  “Programs fail miserably”

But when I say:  “Programs are highly successful” Everyone wants to review the study?  Lol

If we all were able to speak on level ground then I would accept your rebuttal.



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[DannyB II]

Just one of many sick and twisted "Learning Experience's" the Directors at Elan dreamed up to frighten us into compliance.
It worked for most and what still amazes me to this day is that these places like Elan and Valley View Farm/School are allowed to opperate with absolutely no real oversite.

Maybe a good lead off in the Valley View Wiki would be that they drag kids around the parking lot for a few hours prior to admittance. This will raise the credibility of the site quite a bit.  Parents would love it!!

Hey and thanks for that "oil accident" it's not enough to care only about money and material things, you have to pollute the whole planet with your your GREED.

Wow, your insight is amazing.  I cant believe you caught on to their plan.  The Trouble Teen industry caused the oil spill in the gulf, like you said, as a diversion so that the government will not have enough resources to focus on all the abuse going on in programs so they can continue to perform mind control on these kids and further their cult endeavors.  This must had been funded by Romney and those others in Utah.  I hope you don’t tell anyone about this.  It could cause trouble for the industry.




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You took that out of context Whootius Maximus, reading comprehention was never your strong suit.
You even earned your own damn Icon :wall:
Hey you are missing the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox right now>

 :shamrock:  :shamrock:

Felice, please you are not cut out for this type of banter get back to the sideline, before I start the truck. RRRRMMmm
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"Pile of Shit", last thing I heard on you is you may have some ghosts in your closet that have to do with violence committed upon others, in your young past life.  The  pontification by windbags here always surprises me especially when there checkered past smells worse then the persons there attacking.

Danny

[elanasshole]

Felice, please you are not cut out for this type of banter get back to the sideline, before I start the truck. RRRRMMmm
RRRMMMM.
"Pile of Shit", last thing I heard on you is you may have some ghosts in your closet that have to do with violence committed upon others, in your young past life. The pontification by windbags here always surprises me especially when there checkered past smells worse then the persons there attacking.

Danny

Page taken out of the ELAN staffer playbook by Danny Bennison.  Did anyone notice Danny trying to avoid tough questions about crimes he committed against children?  Derail a thread and avoid tough questions.  Derail a thread and avoid tough questions. This is his MO people.

[Eliscu2]

Felice, please you are not cut out for this type of banter get back to the sideline, before I start the truck. RRRRMMmm
RRRMMMM.
"Pile of Shit", last thing I heard on you is you may have some ghosts in your closet that have to do with violence committed upon others, in your young past life. The pontification by windbags here always surprises me especially when there checkered past smells worse then the persons there attacking.

Danny

Page taken out of the ELAN staffer playbook by Danny Bennison.  Did anyone notice Danny trying to avoid tough questions about crimes he committed against children?  Derail a thread and avoid tough questions.  Derail a thread and avoid tough questions. This is his MO people.

This tactic can be found on page 2 of the Elan Assistant Directors ABUSERS HANDBOOK..................
Notice the skillful use of the DOUBLE-BIND peppered with empty threats and indimidation.
All we have missing here is a drag around the parking lot tied to your delivery van and a bare bottom spanking with a wooden paddle in front of 100's of my peers. (Danny drilled holes in that paddle so it would hurt more and cause permanent scars.)

[Eliscu2]

You took that out of context Whootius Maximus, reading comprehention was never your strong suit.
You even earned your own damn Icon  
Hey you are missing the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox right now>

If I felt you would be rattled and stand up and speak out when others (here on fornits) took comments out of context I would apologize.  But people seem to only get upset when “I” take things out of context.  Why is that?

Why is it okay to say, for example:  “Programs fail miserably”

But when I say:  “Programs are highly successful” Everyone wants to review the study?  Lol

If we all were able to speak on level ground then I would accept your rebuttal.



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Whooty, you are a troll. I can not speak for all programs and I do not.
You being the troll that you are seem to defend them all.
You even defend the "treatment" at JRC.............................THE WORST HELLHOLE.
Perhaps you need a little trip to GITMO to get yourself some empathy.

[Anti-Troll]

the Benkrugnadlick has posted on 4nits 541 times
     posts on 4nits.
2 have slightly exposed elan yet Bennison still revels in the GLORY of being an abuser in those 2 posts and relishes his role in the elan scheme of things
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all of   of AA Bennisons posts are are in direct contradiction of the AA twelve steps and 12 traditions  If Bennison wipes his ass like he works AA THEN he most certainly have oozing piles around the  hole that the  Krugly covets  maybe next time Bennison is recieving the Krugly he will ask the Krugly to use a lube that has antibiotics in it  
     posts on 4nits
oooooo that smell  can you not smell that smell the smell  of death that is all around you  because of you
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Most of Bennison's posts are attacks on other suvivors Bennison doesn't know the Benkrugnadlick does not care  which program the survivors was in he attacks he  siddles  up  like a crab to the suvivor plays buddy suckie and  THEN attacks with the viciousiness of a program trained abuser  and he still tries to seeks his GLORY in all of this
     posts on4 nits
Bennison is a pathological drama queen that loves gossip and hearsay he is incapable of standing on his own 2legs and being an honest human being because he likes getting on all 4s while the Krugly with his huge fuckin swollen hands double fists the vomit out of him Bennison beggs for a reach around but the Krugly says maybe next time as he thrusts his meaty mits into the place where Bennison poops.
    posts on 4nits
when Bennison farts it sounds like 2 pieces of cardboard flappin in the breeze
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Bennisons other posts ARE such nonsense that nobodee responds or replies to his lunacy  bBnkrugnadlick it is a GIVEN that Women should not die in childbirth but Bennison can not give you a reason one reason why
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Bennison is so stupid that if his brains were cotton he would not have enough to make a rag for an ANT   butta bing butta bang  butta up bennisons butt says the Krugly
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all his other posts he tries to explore his abusive training and futher his education in being an abuser by cuddling up to the whoot on the jrc thread looking for new ways to abuse former survivors
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he is a misogynist as evidenced by some of his very disrespectful posts to the various women on 4nits he will not know what that word means
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Bennison shits on this forum like he is the program director of 4nits as evidenced by his many posts out of the 541 posts of his where he angrily tells former survivors of other programs what to do
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he is so deluded that he does not see what he posts is his tell     he is a violent sociopath with severe borderline personality traits combined with exteme reaction formation mechanisms all can be found in his 541 posts
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Benkrugnadlick enjoys his position in his mind    he has no compunction ability at all    no conscience to speak of is throughly IN DRIVEN  that he can not respect other opinions also evidenced by his 541 posts
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is very angry all the time 541 posts represents this anger all because he is a true sick fuck that imprinted on the Krugly in a fashion that only birds  could understand and the Krugly will not give him the release that only TCK can give the sick fuck
    posts on 4nits
he plays childish games posting private messages in his mind he thinks it will explain something but it simply makes him out to be the untrusworthy shithaed that his 541 posts represent
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everyone on 4nits is so humbly greatful that we are not Danny Bennison and every one agrees probably even the whoot  Bennison we are so greatful we are not you
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is so deluded that he has actully posted with in his 451 posts that he has helped 4nits in exposing programs hahahahahah
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Danny Bennison tub girl called she wanted to know if you wanted a drink  go on Danny take a big ole swig you know you want to you stupid fuckin sicko
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all the survivors on 4 nits  are so fuckin happy we ARE not you and that we have love in OUR lives THAN to be an abusive program supporter like your 541 posts in 3 months prove.
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THEN to be stuck in in a time that you can not escape because you are not a SURVIVOR   so happy we all ARE that we are not you in any way shape or form you stupid sick deluded  fuck  
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tub girl is waiting she wants to know if you want a little sip go a haed Bennison have a little drink you know you want it
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[DannyB II]

:shamrock:  :shamrock:

Can we please get back to the topic.

Danny

[Che Gookin]

Who did you speak with in my family motherfucker?

[maruska]

I guess I have problems with my English comprehension, but can someone please explain what you mean with: Danny dragged a girl around with his van ?!?

It means he tied one end of a rope to a van, tied the other end to the girl, and drove the van.

I'm not sure if this one's true or not, but judging from what we know of Danny, it's not entirely unlikely.

OMG?!?

Did you really do it , Danny ?

[DannyB II]

Who did you speak with in my family motherfucker?[/quote

 :shamrock:  :shamrock:

You just called me a "motherfucker". Hmmmmmmm...Aaron watch your step buddy your moving from panda's to big boys now. You talk mighty big shit for a little white flabby boy in China. Come to Georgia and call me a motherfucker, please. You have my address and phone #. That was down right rude, dude. The spoke person from your family Che,  if they wanted you to know then they would tell you. Stop asking me.
I will say this worlds are very small people and information is not hard to find. So if you think running around with a avatar and a phony name will keep you hidden think again. Money, yes money makes people do lots of things. Money and hackers.
U and I, ya....I am getting close.

Danny

[Whooter]

Whooty, you are a troll. I can not speak for all programs and I do not.
You being the troll that you are seem to defend them all.
You even defend the "treatment" at JRC.............................THE WORST HELLHOLE.
Perhaps you need a little trip to GITMO to get yourself some empathy.

People with an open mind and an ability to think independently really ruffles your feathers that much, Eliscu2?  I mentioned several times during the discussion that I wasn’t an advocate of Shock Therapy.  I was just trying to understand the facts.  But it seems the facts scare you.  Why is that?  Why do you feel unsafe when people speak openly and examine both sides of the issue or disagree with you?  Why label these people trolls or programmies because they think or act differently?  Does it give you a sense of security putting someone else down?  If I were a graduate of a program speaking this way you would label me brainwashed or indoctrinated.  Why not accept more than one point of view and defend your views openly if you feel strongly about it.  There is nothing wrong with being different and stepping beyond the group think here and being yourself.  No one will punish you for it.  If there are 100 people in the room we should get 100 different perspectives on the same problem.  Its unnatural for everyone to feel the need to think the same way (as they do here on fornits).



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[Eliscu2]

Whooty, you are a troll. I can not speak for all programs and I do not.
You being the troll that you are seem to defend them all.
You even defend the "treatment" at JRC.............................THE WORST HELLHOLE.
Perhaps you need a little trip to GITMO to get yourself some empathy.

People with an open mind and an ability to think independently really ruffles your feathers that much, Eliscu2?  I mentioned several times during the discussion that I wasn’t an advocate of Shock Therapy.  I was just trying to understand the facts.  But it seems the facts scare you.  Why is that?  Why do you feel unsafe when people speak openly and examine both sides of the issue or disagree with you?  Why label these people trolls or programmies because they think or act differently?  Does it give you a sense of security putting someone else down?  If I were a graduate of a program speaking this way you would label me brainwashed or indoctrinated.  Why not accept more than one point of view and defend your views openly if you feel strongly about it.  There is nothing wrong with being different and stepping beyond the group think here and being yourself.  No one will punish you for it.  If there are 100 people in the room we should get 100 different perspectives on the same problem.  Its unnatural for everyone to feel the need to think the same way (as they do here on fornits).



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I have been brainwashed by the fornits cult.
I am powerless over my own thoughts.
I have found Jesus! (he was under my bed this whole time)
Jesus smelled really bad and the only reason I found him was because of the stench.

Jesus told me I should love everyone ESPECIALLY people like you Whooty.
Jesus said that if I did everything he said and stayed away from  ::evil:: fornits ::evil::  I could go to church tomorrow morning and be part of the second comming.
I told him I was Jewish and he said that's o.k., I'm Jewish too.
I asked him how he could be G-d and just a Jewish guy at the same time.
He changed the subject on me.
He told me everything written in that book was either taken out of context or absolutely false.
I said "I can relate"
I asked him why I had to follow a book that was total bullshit and stay away from fornits.
He said he was testing me.
I asked him why.
He said he likes to play games.
Every time I tried to ask him a direct question he would distract me or cause some kind of diversion.
Jesus and I played all day long and when we were done I killed him.
I just figured it was about time I thought for myself.
My very first thought that I have had all by myself since discovering fornits!
My first real thought of my own was "Kill Jesus".
Now Jesus is dead and will not be saving anybody.
It took me hours to clean up the mess!
This is why I don't listen to my own thoughts.

[Whooter]

Didnt mean to upset you that much, Eliscu2.  Just asking you to keep an open mind and try to step out of the group position here.  Life doesnt have to black and white.  You can be religious or non-religious and still hold (or agree on) the same perspective on many discussions here.  No need to label everyone, thats all I'm saying.



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[Eliscu2]

Didnt mean to upset you that much, Eliscu2.  Just asking you to keep an open mind and try to step out of the group position here.  Life doesnt have to black and white.  You can be religious or non-religious and still hold (or agree on) the same perspective on many discussions here.  No need to label everyone, thats all I'm saying.



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Hey Whooty I think I did agree with you once.
Right here on this very thread.
.....way back when we were talking about Valley View School abuse.
You described my brother Mathew pretty well and I agreed.
I am not upset, killing Jesus made me really happy.
Cleaning his brains off the wall was a real bummer though.
It's hard to have an open mind about something like child abuse.
I do appreciate your attempts to teach me....really I do!
"Programs are like swimming, no child wants to jump in the first time."
I really liked the "Cancer is not pretty but we treat it and the child suffers during treatment, but in the end they are cured."
I think your really creative.....got a picture of yourself?....maybe we could hook up.
I'll show you how I played with Jesus.

[Whooter]

Hey Whooty I think I did agree with you once.
Right here on this very thread.
.....way back when we were talking about Valley View School abuse.
You described my brother Mathew pretty well and I agreed.

I remember that. I do admit that you spoke up and said I was right.  So I take back the group think comment.

I am not upset, killing Jesus made me really happy.

How could we have all been saved if he lived.  He gave his life for us and for that we are all eternally grateful.

Cleaning his brains off the wall was a real bummer though.

Just Details, your soul had already been saved by that point.

It's hard to have an open mind about something like child abuse.

I agree, but what can we do?  Close our eyes to it?  If we have teachers raping our kids in the public school system why spend decades trying to close the schools down while they continue to rape our kids?  What headway have we made… teachers are still raping our children.  Is the school system abusing our kids or are the teachers doing it ?  Hmmmm

I do appreciate your attempts to teach me....really I do!
"Programs are like swimming, no child wants to jump in the first time."
I really liked the "Cancer is not pretty but we treat it and the child suffers during treatment, but in the end they are cured."

I thought it was a good analogy but I couldn’t believe how pissed off people got when I said that.

I think your really creative.....got a picture of yourself?....maybe we could hook up.
I'll show you how I played with Jesus.

I like that thank you, Eliscu2.  I feel we connected a little tonight and have found someone who understands me.  Here is a picture of me.  I tried to take a few of myself with the camera for FB but my arm is so big it blocks the shot coming back at me.  So this is an older picture.  I have lost over 30 lbs since this was taken and wear contacts now which really makes a difference.  I will post some more updated photos soon.





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