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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2003, 04:39:00 PM »
maybe you forgot theres a ton of people who support him in his efforts instead of people like you sitting on your ass talking about him.

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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2003, 04:46:00 PM »
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"Why can't (or won't) Ryan promote himself on Fornits instead of relying upon anonymous sources whose posts only make him look less then credible and frankly, shamelessly self-absorbed?



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Nice try.  God, you people are lame.
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2003, 05:18:00 PM »
What's lame is Ryan pretenting to be an anonymous fan of himself.

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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2003, 05:38:00 PM »
k im a mother of 2 and we know a ton of people who support him. Ryan hasnt even been in here, i guess u thought i was him or somethin. No biggie just wanted to clear things up. The kid has done alot of good in this trajic subject.
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2003, 06:59:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-18 13:53 ]
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2003, 07:56:00 PM »
I like Ryan, he's a cool kid, from a peer's point of view. I think you people should think about the fact that he's like 16, dude.  Could you imagine being 16, and waking up one day to find you were about to be a movie star? I think you'd be pretty psyched? That's the vibe I get from him. I do think a lot of him is about the fame and whatnot. I wish it was me in his position because I actually would be in it for the cause. I don't think you guys should be concerned about Ryan himself, it's his story that is going to make waves. He just needs to keep it consistent....
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2003, 09:36:00 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2003, 11:03:00 PM »
Where did the link to the show say Ryan would be promoting his new movie by sensationalizing his story?  I missed it.
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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2003, 12:09:00 AM »
Where can I find the NY Times story about Ryan?  If someone has it, can they cut & paste it here or tell me where to look on Fornits to find it?  Thanks for your trouble!!
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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2003, 12:29:00 AM »
Parents, Shopping for Discipline, Turn to Harsh Programs Abroad
By Tim Weiner, The New York Times
May 9, 2003
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ENSENADA, Mexico - Ryan Fraidenburgh was 14 when he was brought here shackled, kicking and screaming.
Two men carrying handcuffs and leg irons came for him at his mother's home in Sacramento, Calif., shoved him into a van and bound him hand and foot. They drove him 12 hours south, over the Mexican border, into a high-walled compound near here called Casa by the Sea.

"It was nighttime," Ryan recalled. "I look around and I see kids sleeping on cement. I was really, really scared. The big honcho, Mauricio, said, `You don't speak English here.' I didn't know how to speak Spanish."

Ryan quickly learned the rules: stay silent, be compliant, don't look up, don't look out the window, don't speak unless spoken to. The punishments for breaking the rules included solitary confinement, lying on the floor in a small room, nose to the ground, often for days on end.

Ryan was not a criminal. He was only skipping school, his parents said in telephone interviews. But in August 2000, they said, in the middle of a bitter divorce and custody battle, they decided to send him away to Casa by the Sea, which calls itself a "specialty boarding school" for behavior modification.

Like hundreds of other parents, the Fraidenburghs made their choice largely on the basis of a glossy brochure and a call to a toll-free number in Utah. They came to regret their choice.

The idea of sending a child to such a program in Mexico was unheard of a decade ago. But in the United States, behavior-modification programs and boarding schools for troubled youths have faced increasing legal and licensing challenges over the past few years.

More and more are moving abroad - some to Mexico, Central America or the Caribbean - where they operate largely under the regulation radar and where some employ minimum-wage custodians more than teachers or therapists, say government officials, education consultants and clinical psychologists.

The behavior-modification business is booming at Casa by the Sea, on Mexico's Pacific Coast, the largest of 11 affiliated programs with roughly 2,200 youths, about half of them in Mexico, Costa Rica and Jamaica. The programs are run by a small group of businessmen based in St. George, Utah, under the banner of the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools, or Wwasps, and Teen Help, the programs' main marketing arm.

Over the past seven years, local governments and State Department officials have investigated Wwasps-affiliated programs in Mexico, the Czech Republic and Samoa on charges of physical abuse and immigration violations. The Mexican program, in CancĂșn, and the Czech program closed, and their owners left those countries saying they feared unjust charges. The Samoan program cut its affiliation with Wwasps.

Ken Kay, the president of Wwasps, would not allow a reporter to visit Casa by the Sea; Dace Goulding, the program's director, declined to answer any questions. But Mr. Kay, responding to inquiries in writing from his office in Utah, said no charge of abuse had ever been proven against any of the programs in any court.

"We are about getting families back together," he said in a written statement. "We are not for everyone, and there are very few but vociferous critics of not just us but any youth intervention." He described many of the program's critics as parents who feel they have been "manipulated, brainwashed or duped" or who are battling through divorce and taking their anger out "by making us look terrible."

In telephone interviews, eight teenagers who were formerly in Casa by the Sea described a system in which the youths try to ascend six "levels" through a system of rewards and punishments, including being sent to "R and R," a small, bare isolation room, often for days on end. Discipline, not education, was the rule, they said.

For Laura Hamel, 17, of Vienna, Va., who counts herself as a success story, it was a slow two-year ascent to graduation in March. She said she was demoted from Level 3 back to Level 1 after giving a weeping, lonely friend a hug and a kiss on the cheek at Thanksgiving. Affection of that kind is forbidden.

A youth who rises to Levels 4, 5 and 6 can become a "junior staff member" and "participate in the discipline process" against lower-level youths, Casa's contract with parents says.
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2003, 12:34:00 AM »
go to his web site, i think theres links to his storys on the media page.
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2003, 12:48:00 AM »
Thanks to the 2 anons who answered my question about the NY Times article.  Now that I have read it, I will be more knowledgeable about the issues at hand when they are discussed/debated on the Inside Edition show.  

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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2003, 02:23:00 AM »
Its about time wwasps abusive organization is exposed. The parents get more then what they bargained for. Ryan is one of very few who never gave up, as a mother of my own kids its hard to see so many victims out there Most kids never get the chance to be in a a feature film, national interviews, and the front page of the ny times, but i certainly commend this kid for the efforts he has put in.
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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2003, 08:28:00 AM »
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"Its about time wwasps abusive organization is exposed. The parents get more then what they bargained for. Ryan is one of very few who never gave up, as a mother of my own kids its hard to see so many victims out there Most kids never get the chance to be in a a feature film, national interviews, and the front page of the ny times, but i certainly commend this kid for the efforts he has put in. "
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2003, 08:47:00 AM »
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On 2003-09-21 23:23:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Its about time wwasps abusive organization is exposed. The parents get more then what they bargained for. Ryan is one of very few who never gave up, as a mother of my own kids its hard to see so many victims out there Most kids never get the chance to be in a a feature film, national interviews, and the front page of the ny times, but i certainly commend this kid for the efforts he has put in. "


Ryan is NOT the first kid to speak out on national television or in mainstream newspapers and magazines and all this hype surrounding him and his association with a commercial venture is so plainly self-serving, it is disgusting. Tell Ryan he needs to get over himself if he expects to be taken seriously as the spokesperson for "so many other victims out there" ....

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