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IBM's new foretelling software to be used by Florida DOC
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "CHICAGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)" -----SPSS, an IBM (NYSE: IBM - News) Company, today announced that the Florida State Department of Juvenile Justice selected IBM predictive analytics software to reduce recidivism by determining which juveniles are likely to reoffend. Identified at-risk youth can then be placed in programs specific to the best course of treatment to ensure offenders do not re-enter the juvenile justice system.
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More than 85,000 youth enter the juvenile justice system in Florida each year for varying degrees of offenses – from drug abuse to robbery or property crimes. As each youth enters the system for a different reason and with varying backgrounds, the best program for positive rehabilitation is very specific – what may work for one juvenile may not work for another.
Antigen, The kids will be profiled as they enter the system. An appropriate rehabilitation program will be identified at that point. These kids have already committed a crime. There is no intent on driving around and plucking kids off the streets and putting them in programs.
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psy:
I see what you're arguing, Whooter... That this system will result in fewer and more appropriate program placements. Maybe, Maybe not. But the fact remains that these kids are being sentenced not on what they have done, but what they are likely do do in the future (according to the computer based on god knows who's programming and data). England is using it on adults, apparently. I don't care what a computer says is the most likely outcome. While punishment is certainly appropriate if the kids have caused harm to others, changing a person's way of thinking against one's will is unethical. Using the system you propose, justice would possibly be more practical, but it would also be a lot less fair.
Whooter, would you support a system where criminals were implanted with computer chips in their brain removing their free will but creating productive members of society? It sounds sci-fy but I'm going somewhere. Answer the question.
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: psy ---I see what you're arguing, Whooter... That this system will result in fewer and more appropriate program placements. Maybe, Maybe not. But the fact remains that these kids are being sentenced not on what they have done, but what they are likely do do in the future (according to the computer based on god knows who's programming and data). England is using it on adults, apparently. I don't care what a computer says is the most likely outcome. While punishment is certainly appropriate if the kids have caused harm to others, changing a person's way of thinking against one's will is unethical. Using the system you propose, justice would possibly be more practical, but it would also be a lot less fair.
Whooter, would you support a system where criminals were implanted with computer chips in their brain removing their free will but creating productive members of society? It sounds sci-fy but I'm going somewhere. Answer the question.[/quote
:shamrock: :shamrock:
Are we reading the same thing, these kids are being screened for crimes they have already committed, are committing. The data will show what type of treatment method was used in other circumstances involving kids with similar crimes. 80,000 kids will go into the judicial system in Florida and that is just Florida, lets get the statistics for the rest of the country. This total will be staggering, how do you suggest they go about this ongoing problem. Yes there will be profiling, this is common practice in determining what criminals will do next. It helps keep your neighborhoods safe and keep these derelicts off the streets, while at the same time trying to get them help.
Man you folks can take a subject and travel to a universe that only exists in your mind. Micro-chips in minds is that what we got out of this article, Adolf Hilter, sci-fy channel, FBI/CIA, water-boarding.
They are trying to stem the constant drip of adolescence crimes that are being committed on a level that is overwhelming at times.
Lets see where this goes.
Danny
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---Yes there will be profiling, this is common practice in determining what criminals will do next. It helps keep your neighborhoods safe and keep these derelicts off the streets, while at the same time trying to get them help.
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Uh . . . "derelicts?" Sounds like you have a certain amount of prejudgment as to the character of those in question here, eh?
Moreover, can you offer proof that profiling has had an actual long term effect on crime?
wdtony:
If Whooter's interpretation of the article were true, why would Florida need a computer model at all. Seems like a waste of money on the part of the state when anyone, say a case worker, could look at the offense a child has committed and decide the best course of action.
For example:
Case worker: "This kid doesn't need to be locked up, marijuana use doesn't necessarily equal an addiction", Family counseling.......next!
Compared to:
12+ million dollar computer model: pi r squared to the 10th power, criteria, basis, factoring ......computing......output....best alternative to lockup = Family counseling.
How is this cost effective?
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