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Offline Anonymous

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« on: September 16, 2003, 12:58:00 AM »
So, in reading the post from Antigen regarding legal action for defamation - I have some observations.
 
Karen - I was on the BBS when you were on there.  You were kicked off around Thanksgiving last year for your attacks on Mormons.  Up until that time you were very PRO WWASP.  I really wonder if you are not going to be held responsible in some way for your attacks disguised as experience.    You're up to the same crap here.

Deborah and Antigen - you have NO experience personally of WWASPS.  Both of you had a bad experience of your individual programs and are basing your statements on those, not wwasps.  It's based on what you choose to believe.

Spots - your gripe has always been with your daughter and her new husband.  Casa By The Sea was your excuse.  You began to believe your granddaughter was being abused.  Would you ever publically admit she wasn't, or are you going to do everything you can to twist what she tells you into a lawsuit?  You're on a mission - hope it bites you in your horse's ass.   :wink:

Jeff, Lee, Anon Purists - the wwasp vs pure court document says all I ever want to know.  As does your website.  Helping? Who...You?

Carey had a different experience.  I won't go into her issues with her ex. She didn't agree with the  restraints - and neither do I if they were used in the wrong way.  Don't know, wasn't there, but I would never support that either.  She has since seen the "agenda" of those that cry beatings, etc.  She was burned, not by wwasps, but by others.

Ryan - a HERO?  Is he going to share the monetary rewards from his movie participation with you - I'd believe the movie "Thirteen" WAY more than anything Hollywood comes up with regarding his stay at Casa.  

Melissa - I see your issues are more with your parents, not Spring Creek.  You were emotionally hurt, but I really REALLY don't see this being about Spring Creek.  They, too, may be your excuse for what your parents wanted to give you. I know Adam Wolfe's mother personally, and there is a lot of pain, however she was so proud of her young man and there is no "dirt" to dig up.  I know for you it has to be hard to know he's gone.  It was not his choice to drink the drugs that took his life.  Out of respect, please drop it.

For those of you that choose to believe the stories in the newspapers, that's okay.  I know way too much more that was left out or twisted. I will say that nothing is perfect, people aren't perfect. Call us a "cult" if you wish.  We're just parents like most of you.  We were/are in a breakdown situation and did what our communities, State or health organizations were not equipped to handle. Jail was an alternative - but not for me.  My son deserved more. He deserved more than me just letting him self-destruct and "hope" that he didn't kill himself in the learning process or worse.    

No, he's no longer there.  It's been a couple of years since he came home. He thanks me for believing in him, believing in our family and never giving up.  Will his "tune" change in the years to come?  Who knows. What's important is right NOW.  We changed our futures and it wasn't from drinking Kool-Aid!

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2003, 01:15:00 AM »
What the hell are you talking about....? Have I once, in my postings, ever mentioned the situation with my parents? Absolutely not! Hell no! My dad resisted the program to the very end, he tried to pull me almost every week! It was those Family Reps that kept *lying* and *manipulating* my father into keeping me in the program. They did WHATEVER they could to make him happy and keep the checks rolling in! I got phone calls when I wasn't supposed to, I got pinched when I talked about going home, they didn't make him attend seminars, they were going to reccommend me home in 4 months after I got level 5, and on my homepass he FIGURED IT OUT! They took advantage of a very *depressed* man who had recently lost his wife. He wanted to do whatever he could to try and "repair" his family... but WWASP knew what I needed WAS NOT A PROGRAM.... They played on every emotion he had.......they tricked and beguiled him, and he feels IMMENSE guilt about the decision he made and feels like a COMPLETE ASS for ruining my high school experience. I know because I get EVERYTHING I COULD POSSIBLY WANT...he does it because he feels sooo horrible for subjecting me to that mistreatment. I respect your opinion but I would like to see some hard evidence that led you to this observation. (....pile of pro-wwasp cow dung imported straight from thompson falls, MIGHT I ADD....lol!!)
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2003, 01:34:00 AM »
Nicee. lol, a joke worth laughing about wwasp. Keep up the posts mellissa, I dig it-
Probably one person who does deserve my respect is you, you went through what i did and only we know the truth. Fuk the trailor trash, life goes on without pro-wwasps who deny there own selves and are so worthless that they have to beat kids to make a few mill. Theres a legate way to become successful without beating us teens in the name of "treatment".
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2003, 10:49:00 AM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-18 13:41 ]
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2003, 11:48:00 AM »
Karen, This is my first post on Fornits. It sounds like you had a child in the program and decided to pull your child based on your observations of the program.  I can relate to that.

My question is: When you pulled your child from the program, prior to the end of the 12 month contract did your child receive his/her school transcript for all the classes "completed" in the program?  Did you give the required early termination notice, now 120 days, or just show up and pull your child?  

I would appreciate your input on the above.  Thank you.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2003, 12:03:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-18 13:41 ]
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2003, 12:05:00 PM »
Karen ,

Well said!  It's true.

What we parents find out after the fact would make your blood run cold.

I too was immediately booted from the BBS for posting an observation that maybe it is the Program who is manipulating the parents oppose to the kids manipulating.

It was just an observation. My observation,our truth.

The BBS Kool aide drinkers went nuts!! They definately are not open to an additional idea out side of the Task seminars input.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2003, 12:23:00 PM »
Anon,

Your amature physic 101 is inaccurate.

You may have had a thankful experience.

Some of us parents went into the Program with high hopes. Positive expectations.

This is not about people being perfect.This is about the choice people/staff make to deliberately  hurt kids.deliberately lie to parents.

My child was hurt.  That is our reality.

Consider yourself lucky.It could easily have been you on this side of the fence.

Do not try to take away,dismiss other people's experience with your Seminar brainwashing nonsense. Been there done that. Its a bunch of crap!
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2003, 04:35:00 PM »
Melissa R wrote on the Can WWASPS Be Rehabilitated Thread:

Of course it's very difficult to forgive your parents after you trust them your whole life and suddenly you wake up and your being dragged out of your house in handcuffs because they "loved you enough to get help" (that's WWASP jargon, by the way) WWASP takes advantage of parents that are busy, sometimes workaholics, and parents that don't really get vulnerable with their kids or whatever... that's what kind of parents I have, except for some personal facts like my mom died 3 month before I was sent there and my dad almost married this woman who set up me going to the program. She was like "the evil stepmother" type and wanted to get rid of me. My dad is the type that he won't do any of the legwork, if you hand him papers to sign he'll sign them, he doesn't do research, he has employees to do that for him, he has no idea how to operate a computer, so pretty much this woman got nailed by the spammdex, handed the papers over to my dad, which he signed and forked over the cash, and poof, I was gone.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2003, 08:11:00 PM »
I'm still confused...how does that have anything to do with my parents? I was just fine having accepted my parents work hard, and make money.... I didn't need WWASPS...... they practically come to parents and TELL them their family is in a crisis.... in most unfortunate situations such as mine....
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2004, 01:14:00 PM »
Melissa...you out there?  :???:
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