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Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
« on: September 15, 2003, 05:55:00 PM »
Ok, here we go again. I've just received another letter of demand from another lawfirm demanding that I act as their agent to abridge your free speech.

Unfortunately, my scanner's not working at the moment and I haven't got the time or money to deal with that today. So I'll just type this in by hand for the moment.

Here's what I received:
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Girvin & Ferlazzo, P.C.
Attorneys at Law

20 Corporate Woods Blvd.
Albany, New York 12211
(518) 462-0300 Fax: (518) 462-5037
http://www.girvinlaw.com

Tanya A. Yatsco
Associate

http://www.fornits.com

Dear Sir or Madam:

  Please be advised that we represent the Academy at Ivy Ridge, located in Ogdensburg, New York.

  It has come to our attention that postings on your website contain false and defamatory statements regarding the Academy at Ivy Ridge and an associated entity, WWASP. I direct your attention to, among other portions of your website,  
  http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... &Forum=9&3.

  Postings alleging that students of Academy at Ivy Ridge are in any way mistreated are utterly false. Accordingly, they are violative of Fornits' Terms of Use. Such postings must immediately be removed from your website and you must cease and desist posting any such items in the future. Failure to do so will result in legal action against Fornits and the infividuals posting these defamatory statements. It is our understanding that a related lawsuit is already pending, and that the judge in that case issued a preliminary injunction against these defamatory postings.

  Again, if the defamatory postings regarding Academy at Ivy Ridge are not immediately removed, we will commense suit against you.

Very truly yours
GRIVIN & FERLAZZO, P.C.
[signature]
by: Tanya A Yatsco

TAY:lmg
cc: Jason Finlinson


Response to follow.

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2003, 09:12:00 PM »
Was wondering when this was going to happen. Freedom of speech is one thing,   Defamation and accusations are ugly things :wink:
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2003, 09:44:00 PM »
Anon,  

What may be defamation ,accusations to you.

May be the experience ,truth to another.

The truth is what it is! They say the truth hurts.

Typical WWASP response. Threats of law suits to silence the experiences of another.

They might want to save their money .There going to need it!
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2003, 12:12:00 AM »
Failure to do so will result in legal action against Fornits and the infividuals posting these defamatory statements -

Hmmm.  Must be why this board is a little quiet right now!
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2003, 10:05:00 AM »
I wonder if it might help calm them down if those of us who have personal statements sent them for their review. . .
Its not the sort of thing I'd imagian they'd want said in open court.
It isn't slander when its the Truth.
If its defamation - then they deserve it.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2003, 01:32:00 PM »
September 16, 2003
Girvin & Ferlazzo, P.C.
20 Corporate Woods Blvd.
Albany, New York 12211
Dear Ms. Yatsco:

Re: your correspondence dated Sept 12, 2003.

Ms. Yatsco, I tried to review the url to which you direct my attention but it seems to have been typed incorrectly. It is a given that some statements made on any unmoderated public forum must be false because, inevitably, some of them contradict each other. I make no effort to identify anonymous posters or to verify or refute the accuracy of their statements. I make absolutely no representation to the contrary either in the terms of use or otherwise.

I am neither party to nor defendant in any lawsuit and, therefore, not subject to any injunction. To the best of my knowledge, neither are any of the people who post to the forum in question. If they are, as stated in the terms of use, it?s their responsibility, not mine.

I believe your letter is an attempt to intimidate me and to discourage public participation and that any suit against me seeking to prevent free speech on any topic would be frivolous and malicious. You may well ?win? on behalf of your client if they have enough money and the will to harass me. But you will not succeed in keeping anything quiet. In fact I will do everything in my power to ensure that anything you do to me you will do right out in the open in a most public way.

Finally, please inform Mr. Finlinson and any other interested parties that they are just as welcome as anyone to post to this forum and to refute any statements they feel are inaccurate or unkind.


Sincerely,
Ginger Warbis

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2003, 01:56:00 PM »
You Go Ginger!
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2003, 02:02:00 PM »
Thanks! And I swear the end quote is random.

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2003, 02:55:00 PM »
Proverb:  The Truth will never die, but it often lives a pretty miserable life.
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am an angry, wrathful man,  put here to step on the toes of those who dance around the truth (ex WWASPers may acknowledge the sarcasm)

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2003, 04:40:00 PM »
Here's the thing, though, though I'm happily married with 3 beautiful children, a cool dog and a nice cozy home in the hills and generally happy, the truth of this matter just nagged and gnawed at my insides. For a long time, I'd given up trying to discuss what's so messed up about DARE or to explain what's so deranged about someone like Art Barker being regarded as a kindly old philanthropist in the local Ft. Lauderdale area papers. But it still bugged me, more and more and so my happiness was always a little disturbed and incomplete.

After doing the research and finding out how successful these synanon believers of various stripe have been at garnering public funding, power, protection and acceptance, I've come to the conclusion that there's literally nothing they can do to me now that's worse than what they may be able to do to my grandkids if we all don't do what we can to change their plans. So do your damndest, WWASPies, to frighten all of us into silence. I, for one, and likely a whole lot of others will continue to do our damndest to make it backfire. It's a whole lot easier to make noise than to stop it, ya' know?

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2003, 09:28:00 PM »
Ginger,

What this attorney apparenty isnt aware of,and that the Pure rebuttal doesnt share,is that the Judge in the wwasp vs Pure case recently ruled, Pure may keep the stories from the parents and survivors up on the Pure website honoring freedom of speech.

This attorney threatening because of the so called defamation of Ivy Ridge is full of shit.

If what we know about Ivy Ridge was really shared,posted all hell would break out.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2003, 09:41:00 PM »
Nah, I gotta give them more credit than that. At least the wording was relatively civil and polite and they addressed the letter to an entity that did legally exist at one time, rather than to Ginger and Bill Fornit (who never existed or even pretended to). By way of comparison, take a look at the letter sent to me awhile back by Englander & Fischer  http://fornits.com/anonanon/#fay

(Englander & Fischer, btw, is the same firm that's currently suing my friend, Richard Bradbury, on behalf of Calvina's friend, Mel Sembler. Click the "Pump-Gate" link above for details and breaking news.)

I think what this lawyer didn't know is how much I hate bullies; what's at stake for me (far more valuable than all of my posessions) and that I'd immediately recognize that they haven't got a case and that I have more than enough resources and wherewithall to make something like this backfire very badly for them.


So how come ya'll haven't posted everything you know about Academy at Ivy Ridge? Please do.

We must create an atmosphere where the crooked cop fears the honest cop, and not the other way around.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2003, 10:49:00 PM »
Ginger,

The Ivy Ridge dirt is'nt my story to tell.

I had the displeasure to read the documentation written by a family member who had a student there. I have spoken  with a parent whose daughetr was neglected at Ivy Ridge.

I know many kids who are familiar with Jason the director. I ahve heard the horror stories about theat guy. Different kids, same stories.

It goes on and on.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2003, 08:23:00 AM »
not sure but i heard the incident of a staff member being fired for a female student giving sexual favors in exchange for cigarettes?  maybe the lawyers know about it.  it is hearsay but i heard it has a lot of credence.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2003, 04:53:00 PM »
ya i heard a girl was being raped at the academy at ivy ridge by on of there staff members. Not sure but i think they fired the guy.

I guess the abuse is normal at all wwasp facility's!
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