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[Che Gookin]

What kind of pussy gets scared or intimidated by a mod?

pbbbbbbbbbtttttttt..... Mod means one thing, "Troll me more."

seriously, fail argument is fail.

[DannyB II]

What kind of pussy gets scared or intimidated by a mod?

pbbbbbbbbbtttttttt..... Mod means one thing, "Troll me more."

seriously, fail argument is fail.

 :shamrock:  :shamrock:
I was actually trying to be serious for once, Che.
What I was saying is I think Sekto feels intimadated by
his position of Moderator so as a consequence exerts more
control then need be on his Forum. Also he has shared a great
deal about himself on that forum personally, which I don't know
was wise but never the less he did, I would feel vulnerable with
that much info out there.
Danny

[DannyB II]

Moreover, I do think those "rules" are more or less unenforceable, for all practical purposes.

Why are the rules unenforceable?  

To me, it's very simple, very black and white: somebody reads the forum rules.  If a person can follow the rules, then they can participate.  If they cannot, then they get a few warnings, and if they STILL cannot follow the rules, then they get banned.  

We're trying to have an intelligent conversation about the TPI here, at least most of us are.  This is not the online equivalent of The Jerry Springer Show.

You might find the ongoing fracas really amusing, and maybe even entertaining, Ursus.  

But most of the rest of us find it really annoying, and at this point more and more participants (actual and potential) are choosing to "tune out."

Fornits loses a lot of people for the simple reason that it's so poorly monitored and moderated.

I'd be willing to bet you that for every one new and legitimate poster who comes here looking for discussion, networking with other program survivors, and support (after all, that's why I started posting to fornits) there are ten who look at the melee and trolling and choose not to post at all.  And then the whole purpose of this place has been defeated.  

Let's change a couple of words in that original quote, and maybe then you'll see my point more clearly.

When people pretty much completely stop posting because of the excesses of a certain belligerent Irish bully, what is effectively happening is that he (the bully) is moderating the ability of others to post. This is hardly in the spirit of the forum.

:jawdrop:  I dont see were the conversation on this or any other thread stops any of you from posting, I am responding to your post.as a matter of fact. I agree that some of the arguments get loud, but they do burn them selfs out without any help from the peanut gallery.The thing I have had with the Seymours burned itself out.I think and can see from thier last post Joel and AAron are done fighting. Who won ?? Well it wasnt a competition no one did, Just some views got shot around.But all of us are ok and maybe grew from the experience. Everyone here is an adult and dont need a den mother to watch us.The views on this thread are at 5600.and post are 421.page has been around since Jan 17th 2010 and all of the threads we post on have unbelievable numbers and posts.Thats almost 1900 views a month  63 per day. You folks need a math class.Its called open free for all, and that what it is.The free for all. get all 3 of your attention and posts.Even your view points are listen too.There are plenty of pages on this site to go and hug trees and talk about stuff that doesnt concern any of you . And run around talking about changing the mental health world,etc. we all have our dreams and hopes.But arguments are real and deal with real changeable things.I think that if someone doesnt like what they read move the fuck on .Dont try and sensor or direct.,you wouldnt want anyone to do that to you when your posting bull-shit to bull-shit, Talking about thing that will never change or something that has no pertinence to the topic. No one follows any of you around  judging or criticizing your posts. Because no one cares what any of you post, the adults here relies and respect thats your opinion. Maybe not agree but non the less dont throw their two cents in. Perhaps thats something you persecutors of free speech should look at and do. After all your doing the complaining on a thread that has more views  and actively than most of anything going on here.No Free For All is a huge success, and draws the numbers. Trolls go both ways, read the definition   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet). And your posting stop the fighting on a basic fight page AKA Free For All your trolling. What you are posting is off topic on this page.This page and the free for all pages are for saying whats on your mind, There are plenty of spots on this fourm to behave yourself, thats why some of us come here , because we want to. Thats why the numbers are off the chart. it causes entertainment and great info about Elan and our goals to shut it down.There is infinite space on the internet,So these few threads dont take up much room in the big picture, nor are any of the complainers forced to read them or given no choice because its the only thing to read.So If some body doesnt like the post move on,but I know from the proof of numbers you will still tune in to see whats next .A person cant help it it is fun and entertaining. and in the middle are some good lessons and info about Elan and life.Your just reading the highlights not everything in the tread, but thats why all  of you are  for, are the highlights, they are the most fun I agree. :rocker:  :rocker:  :rocker:

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 :shamrock:  :shamrock:  :shamrock:  :shamrock:  :shamrock:  :shamrock:  :shamrock:  
Here is the Math.
The Elan Forum has always been it's very own "Open Free For All".
This is how Elan Residents "relate" to each other.
They were programmed to "Get thier feelings off" in the most crude and hate/hurtfull ways.
The Elan Forum has pretty much been "Moderated" by Matt and I.
Matt deleted "Tub Girl" once. and I acted like a Dictator twice.
Besides removing hurtful posts for someone who requested it once I had never previously deleted anything.
We all know I lost it one day and posted someone's IP address and was removed as Moderator.
I also mistakenly took out a few old threads while being angry dictator of the Elan Forum.
Luckily and with hours and hours of hard work that data has been recovered. Thank You URSUS!
NORTH KOREA TAKES OVER ELAN FORUM-NEW ELAN RULES
Now that the Elan forum has been turned into "Occupied Territory" it seems the natives have fled to ....well right here.
...........and the usual Elan Lovin Trolls right with them.
If all of this Attention were over in the Elan Forum, then when you Google "Elan School" it would be seen.
However it gives no attention to shutting down Elan over in this forum.
What is a freedom loving person and their merry band of trolls to do?
I say we return the "Occupied Territory" back to it's original state of Freedom.
Tell NORTH KOREA AND THEIR DAYTOPIAN DICTATORS RULES TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR CESSPOOL!
3 RULES
1. ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK
2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
3. ONLY SPAM AND TUB GIRL WILL BE DELETED

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Felice,
I will probably get kicked in the teeth for this but this happens to be one of the longest and most articulate posts concerning the essence of what you stand for, that I have ever read on this site.  I Thank You.....
 Danny

[karen p]

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[Ursus]

The original context of the quote specifically addressed flooding, and flooding alone.

Moreover, I do think those "rules" are more or less unenforceable, for all practical purposes.

I'm thinking that too. The main problem with declaring a rule against things like personal attacks is that perception of a personal attack is extremely subjective. Especially in this context because there are so many inside references going back to traumatic events of the past.

Folks do have their triggers!  

[Jeffery]

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[Jeffery]

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[Jeffery]

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[Jeffery]

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[karen p]

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[Jeffery]

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[Jeffery]

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[Jeffery]

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[Jeffery]

:peace:  :jamin:  :peace:

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