AARC supporting hypocrite busted for DUI and Cocaine

[ajax13]

If you weren't so lazy, you could read where they're from, Reuben.
So, vandalism and public intoxication according to the above poster.  I'm still dubious.  I think you've got some fraud in the closet, Johnny.  I'm not sure about a history of cocaine use, but I do think it likely that you've got that in your background too, Johnny.  Did Correlsense run an extensive background check on you when you were hired or not?  If they do look at your expenses once this blows up in your face, are they going to find severe enough irregularities that you might end up in jail?  Are you a card player, Johnny?  You'll get lots of time for that if they put you away.

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John Reuben, of STICC, posted here under the username "TheWho" for many years and then later under the username "Whooter."  But over 90% of the "anonymous" pro-program posts are also him just not logged in.  You must be new here or something. :roflmao:

@Ajax - Whooter has already admitted to having been arrested for vandalism.  I ran a cheapo $9.99 background check on John Reuben, and guess what?  Arrested for destruction of public property and public intoxication.  Whooter denying he is Reuben doesn't float anymore because he's already been definitively identified.

Notice how Whooter didn't want to talk about this.  Too bad he posted that he was arrested for vandalism and then gave up his username so now he can't go back and change it.  What are the chances that both Whooter and John Reuben were arrested at the same time in the same place for the same crime?  Nil.  Sorry, Reuben, but you've been exposed and everyone knows you and Whooter and TheWho are all one in the same.  He also talks a lot about how he loves to smoke pot.  I wonder if the good people at Correlsense know Whooter is toking up?  I think it's time to place a call to the management there and let them know that they have a criminal and pothead working there and that he glorifies his drug use and criminality on the internet.

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Here you go:

Of course you did not find anything. As stated previously the entire thread is gone. This has happened to a lot of data in the 2 moved which have just occured. The who deleted his post claiming that he repaid his debt to society but the entire thread has been removed.
Th Anne bonney, unfortunately you are wrong. I wish that you were not. I am not the who. I genuinely recall seeing this post. it is extremely frustrating that it appears to no longer exist as it is information that any parent should be aware of when reading this bastard's posts.

Hey, I'm not saying it did or didn't happen and that is damned frustrating. He's the only one who can do that.  I was just presenting a theory.   I wish there was some way to retrieve it.  Have you contacted Ginger or anyone else through PMs to see if there is any chance?  There must at least be a Google 'cached' page??  I have no idea what I'm talking about so someone tell me if that's not possible.  

Hey. Let's try this.

The Who.....have you ever been charged with lewd and lascivious behavior or child molestation or anything similar?  Anything in that realm?  This is your chance to state, unequivocally one way or the other what your side of the story is.  Or do you not want to 'go on record' so to speak, denying it in case you're proven wrong later?  I really have no fucking clue.

Hi Anne, seems I am on the hot seat:

Actually I do have a record.  The last time I was arrested was in college.  I was arrested several times in Boston (for various protests and acts of civil disobedience) and once in Ann Arbor Michigan (when a protest got out of hand).  I was underage, skipped school and scored a plane ticket from my sisters boyfriend when my parents were in Europe and went to the campus of Univ of Michigan in Ann arbor, myself and several people were arrested for digging these huge craters on the Diag which were meant to simulate bomb holes left by the US in Vietnam, by far my best arrest (like 40 or 50 of us were arrested).  Thought I was going to be sent away when my folks cut their trip short to come home to get me, anyway, that one is probably sealed because I was underaged.  I will never forget they separated me from the others for some reason and I ended up in a cell with 5 other people.  This one hue black guy who was obviously drunk out of his mind kept falling asleep and then falling off his bench...he would then wake up and look right at me and say something like : if you push me again white boy I will "F" you up so much even your mother will not love you.....  I was so scared that after a couple of times I waited for him to fall asleep and then I took my shoes off and wedged them underneath him so he wouldnt roll off the bench again.   Definitely good memories, but I have not been arrested since the age of 22.

What were you arrested for at the age of 22?

I parked my car in front of the main entrance to the cafeteria blocking the doors and started handing out flyers showing workers salaries and how the school was underpaying their cafeteria workers and not providing health benefits for only this group of workers.  I lasted almost an hour, distributed 500 fliers and they did a story about it in the “Boston Phoenixâ€

Interesting how John Reuben and TheWho have the same arrest record, huh?  Run a criminal background check on John D. Reuben and you'll see the same results I did.  He's just upset at Ajax13 for pointing out that he is John Reuben, but it has already been pointed out and proven before.

[ajax13]

That's not what got his dander up.  Before I knew who he was, I noticed that he was posting in the TTI forum.  At that time I knew virtually nothing about Aspen, and I just thought he was a jerk, so I posted in the thread about the best ways to kill theWho.  Although I knew nothing about Reuben, what I described was actually very close to the reality of his situation, and he flipped out.  Since then he's attempted, in his impotent fashion, to shut down any discussion of AARC.  I'm still convinced he's got a history of cocaine use, but he's being coy.

[Whooter]

That's not what got his dander up.  Before I knew who he was, I noticed that he was posting in the TTI forum.  At that time I knew virtually nothing about Aspen, and I just thought he was a jerk, so I posted in the thread about the best ways to kill theWho.  Although I knew nothing about Reuben, what I described was actually very close to the reality of his situation, and he flipped out.  Since then he's attempted, in his impotent fashion, to shut down any discussion of AARC.  I'm still convinced he's got a history of cocaine use, but he's being coy.

He is failing miserably.  We can all tell that he doesnt get to you at all,Ajax.  You handled the Heather and the 4 stages great.  You were able to keep your cool and get your point across very well.  We could tell he was losing the argument when he started resorting to name calling and trying to switch the topic over to personal issues.  It seems to be his MO.  Keep up the posting we are enjoying it.

[ajax13]

Johnny, like I said, I don't need sock-puppets to bolster me.  Did Correlsense do a criminal background check on you?  If not, is a thorough search going to turn up criminal activity related to fraud?  There are a number of possible scenarios that can play out:  Correlsense gets wind of what you're doing here, and you're fired;  STICC gets sued , Correlsense figures out you used them to promote your end of the Aspen fraud, and you're fired;  STICC gets sued, Correlsense fires you and sues you for involving them in the promotion of your scam; Correlsense finds out what you're doing here, you're fired, they sue you, they look into what you've done while you were employed there, and charges are laid against you and you go to jail.
The world is your oyster, Reuben.

[Whooter]

When you post your five pseudoscientific levels of substance use and falsely allege them to be four stages of addiction as quoted by Heather Forsyth, you aren't speaking to the five abstract concepts, you're trying to "speak to" the readers here.

That post was actually mine and yes I was speaking to the readers. ( You seem to really have it bad for this Reuben &Johnny guy).  I think what we can agree on is that Heather was speaking about the 4 Stages of addiction.  If you speak to her directly or to her assistant you may be able to get the answer you want.  If you are asking the question out here on the forum then I think I can help you out.  I am not trying to answer for someone else.

This is what some mental health professionals use in the States, developed by the National Center on Addiction and Substance abuse.
They came out with a list of stages in the 1990’s which categorized the stages of addiction.  If Heather were referring to these (which it appears she is) then they would be the following:

Stage One:  Experimentation
Stage Two:  Regular Use
Stage Three:  Risky Use
Stage Four:  Dependence
Stage Five:  Addiction
(These were increased from 4 stages to 5 stages when they added “Risky Use”)

The kids who were in Stages I and II were going to AADAC and kids who were more severely affected with dependence and addiction Stages were sent to AARC for treatment.

It will be interesting to see how closely the Stages that Heather posts are to the ones we use in the US.  It appears they had not added the “Risky Use” stage at that time.

The above info is from the National Center on Addiction and Substance abuse.

I hope this helps to clear up some of the confusion.
  If you do get a hold of her list you should toss it up here and we can compare to see if there is any differences with the Canadian version.

[Whooter]

Characteristics of dependence include: Repeated use of alcohol or other drugs that leads
to failure to fulfill major responsibilities related to work, family, school or other roles. Or,
repeatedly drinking or using drugs in situations that are physically hazardous, such as
driving while intoxicated or using heavy machinery when intoxicated. Or repeated legal
problems. Or any combination of these.

Many dependent people are able to work, maintain family relationships and friendships,
and limit their use of alcohol or other drugs to certain time periods, such as evenings
or weekends.

So this is the stage just prior to addiction if I am reading them correctly. Dropping out of school or failure at school would be a "red flag". These are the kids who would be attending AARC.  If they were exhibiting "Risky" Behavior they would be recommended to go to AADAC for a milder form of treatment.

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Here you go:

Hi Anne, seems I am on the hot seat:

Actually I do have a record.  The last time I was arrested was in college.  I was arrested several times in Boston (for various protests and acts of civil disobedience) and once in Ann Arbor Michigan (when a protest got out of hand).  I was underage, skipped school and scored a plane ticket from my sisters boyfriend when my parents were in Europe and went to the campus of Univ of Michigan in Ann arbor, myself and several people were arrested for digging these huge craters on the Diag which were meant to simulate bomb holes left by the US in Vietnam, by far my best arrest (like 40 or 50 of us were arrested).  Thought I was going to be sent away when my folks cut their trip short to come home to get me, anyway, that one is probably sealed because I was underaged.  I will never forget they separated me from the others for some reason and I ended up in a cell with 5 other people.  This one hue black guy who was obviously drunk out of his mind kept falling asleep and then falling off his bench...he would then wake up and look right at me and say something like : if you push me again white boy I will "F" you up so much even your mother will not love you.....  I was so scared that after a couple of times I waited for him to fall asleep and then I took my shoes off and wedged them underneath him so he wouldnt roll off the bench again.   Definitely good memories, but I have not been arrested since the age of 22.

What were you arrested for at the age of 22?

I parked my car in front of the main entrance to the cafeteria blocking the doors and started handing out flyers showing workers salaries and how the school was underpaying their cafeteria workers and not providing health benefits for only this group of workers.  I lasted almost an hour, distributed 500 fliers and they did a story about it in the “Boston Phoenixâ€[/quote]

Interesting how John Reuben and TheWho have the same arrest record, huh?  Run a criminal background check on John D. Reuben and you'll see the same results I did.  He's just upset at Ajax13 for pointing out that he is John Reuben, but it has already been pointed out and proven before.[/quote]

Yes, it has.  People here need to know that Reuben, aka TheWho, is a bonafide criminal.  He has a fairly extensive arrest record which means he's not trustworthy and that laws don't stand in the way of his behavior.  Why trust a proven criminal's advice on what to do with your kid?  Makes no sense at all.  Just another example of how Aspen relies on criminals and employs them to work with kids.  It's disgusting.

[ajax13]

Again, thanks to John D. Reuben of STICC and temporarily of Correlsense for demonstrating that many of the vocal supporters of TTI, particularly those who are benefitting financially from the illegal practises of the TTI, are desperate to quash any critical observations of the processes that result in children being placed in unregulated, unlicensed facilities like AARC.  The inherent appeal of these institutions to psychopaths is amply demonstrated by the bizarre behaviour of folks like Reuben.    
So, one is left to examine and question these processes.  In the case of Heather Forsyth, we have an elected official from Alberta describing a completely unscientific method of assessing addiction, and alleging that it is an official policy to send the most severly addicted children in Calgary to an unlicensed, unregulated religious sect (at tax-payer's expense according to Forsyth) to a committee representing the province of Saskatchewan.  How did this practise arise, who had the authority to do this, and where did Forsyth and whomever else was making these decisions arrive at any official policy involving AARC?

[Anonymous]

 The inherent appeal of these institutions to psychopaths is amply demonstrated by the bizarre behaviour of folks like Reuben.    

That pretty much says it.

Parents, would you trust your children's well-being to people like John Reuben?  Or how about serial child abusers like Miller Newton/Father Cassian Newton?  Or one of Newton's proteges, such as AARC's "Dr" Vause?   If you answered 'yes', then you are an unfit parent and complicit in child abuse.

[Whooter]

I parked my car in front of the main entrance to the cafeteria blocking the doors and started handing out flyers showing workers salaries and how the school was underpaying their cafeteria workers and not providing health benefits for only this group of workers.  I lasted almost an hour, distributed 500 fliers and they did a story about it in the “Boston Phoenixâ€

Hey, cant be such a bad guy trying to get health benefits and higher salaries for the cafeteria workers.

[ajax13]

On the contrary Johnny, you're a psychopath who devotes countless hours trying to taunt people who would like to put an end to the harmful and illegal practices of the TTI.  In addition to your efforts on Fornits, you operate STICC, which refers people into Aspen programs of the sort which subjected your own son to abuse and quackery before he took his own life.

[Whooter]

Cant believe thewho has got Ajax trolling and derailing his own thread.  Hey GTFO "who" go back to the TTI forum!!!
This thread is a mess.

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I was arrested several times in Boston...

Funny, so was John Reuben.  He was arrested several times in Boston as well.  On the same dates TheWho was arrested.  Coincidence?  Hardly.

Anyway, why would any parent entrust their child's welfare to John Reuben, an admitted criminal with an extensive arrest record including public intoxication and destruction of property, who openly refers to the most abusive family of programs, Aspen Education, who had half of their programs in Oregon forcibly shut down by state investigators for murdering, abusing and neglecting children in their care, including sexualized humiliation by forcing little girls to give lap dances to and perform simulated felatio on their unlicensed, uneducated couselors?

Think about this, parents, before you make the biggest mistake of your and your kid's life.