Bye Bye Mount Bachelor Academy

[Whooter]

If MBA is not shut down, then where are the children now?

I believe the State of Oregon shut it down based on results from an investigation, I think it is posted on the first or second page.  It will be interesting to see where this leads to and if the state was correct or not in shutting them down.

[psy]

If MBA is not shut down, then where are the children now?

Probably being transferred to another Aspen run facility.

[Whooter]

If MBA is not shut down, then where are the children now?

Probably being transferred to another Aspen run facility.

Pulling a kid out midway is worse than the kid not ever going at all.  Parents are highly encouraged to continue until the kids have finished and I agree with you that most of them have already been placed.  Fortunately in this economy there are open beds in other Aspen facilities.  Plus the relocation expenses are tax deductable because it was caused by the State of Oregon (not Aspen), which helps with the transitional costs.

[Anonymous]

No, parents are highly encouraged to ignore the fucking troll.

Seriously, do you honestly think you're going to get any sales or retentions posting anything on page 7 of a thread featuring an Aspen program getting shut down for abuse?

[Inculcated]

If MBA is not shut down, then where are the children now?

Some were taken home, some are being placed in other programs as per arrangements facilitated by their parents. I imagine that Academy at Swift River, Mount Bachelor's sister school, is experiencing an increase in their enrollment numbers.

Probably being transferred to another Aspen run facility.

Twisted, those kids have been dealt a cruel twist. Will this Aspen program be addressing and “treating” the abuses incurred by the transferred students from MBA at ASR? Or will the obvious conflict of Aspen self- interest cause call for an application of some silencing “treatment”.
“Scream in this theatre of pain, but when it comes to what we’ve done to you…STFU.”
Oh, there’s a song in my head on repeat. The transferred kids are out of the pan and into the fire.

 re: an earlier post on Lifesteps by Ursus.

Mount Bachelor's own sister school Academy at Swift Rivertheir own version of Lifestep

So, the step away from the encounter/marathon methods for ASR was an embrace of the psychodramatic methods of a Dr. Moreno who married the sister of one of his patients and incorporated his wife into her sister’s treatment plan…and (his wife) Zerka Toeman  who heard voices and believed herself to be psychically connected to certain individuals? That’s the Zerka of the quintessential Zerka…?

[Anonymous]

If MBA is not shut down, then where are the children now?

Some were taken home, some are being placed in other programs as per arrangements facilitated by their parents. I imagine that Academy at Swift River, Mount Bachelor's sister school, is experiencing an increase in their enrollment numbers.

I bet Whooter is happy about that!  

no wonder he keeps posting "It'll be interesting to see how this turns out!"

[AuntieEm2]

Plus the relocation expenses are tax deductable because it was caused by the State of Oregon (not Aspen), which helps with the transitional costs.

The GAO investigation--the forensic investigation of programs conducted by the United States Government Accountability Office--documented programs giving out false and deceptive information to parents about tax deductibility of tuition and program expenses. Those cases were referred to the IRS for prosecution.  

Auntie Em

[Whooter]

Plus the relocation expenses are tax deductable because it was caused by the State of Oregon (not Aspen), which helps with the transitional costs.

The GAO investigation--the forensic investigation of programs conducted by the United States Government Accountability Office--documented programs giving out false and deceptive information to parents about tax deductibility of tuition and program expenses. Those cases were referred to the IRS for prosecution.  

Auntie Em

Most of the parents dont do their own taxes.  They have an accountant do them.

[Ursus]

So, the step away from the encounter/marathon methods for ASR was an embrace of the psychodramatic methods of a Dr. Moreno who married the sister of one of his patients and incorporated his wife into her sister’s treatment plan…and (his wife) Zerka Toeman  who heard voices and believed herself to be psychically connected to certain individuals? That’s the Zerka of the quintessential Zerka…?

We don't know if Academy of Swift River actually "stepped away," just that they were considering modifications.

Dr. Jacob Moreno, of course, was the founder of psychodrama, which figures heavily in the actual foundation of Lifesteps. Some of those workshops were designed to be marathon psychodramas. And yes, we are talking about the same Zerka Moreno.

Co-editor of The Quintessential Zerka: Writings by Zerka T. Moreno on Psychodrama, Sociometry and Group Psychotherapy is none other than Edward J. Schreiber, who was also the co-host (along with ASR's Frank Bartolomeo) of that aforementioned 2006 workshop addressing/suggesting a "more judicious application of expressive therapies." Schreiber is also co-director of Moreno Institute East, located in Hadley or Northampton, Massachusetts, in ASR's backyard, more or less.

Interestingly enough, Moreno Institute East was founded in 2004, right around the same time Frank Bartolomeo left McLean for ASR.

It is no accident that ASR is Mount Bachelor's "sister school." It goes way beyond MBA giving ASR a helping hand in the latter's founding days.

[AuntieEm2]

Plus the relocation expenses are tax deductable because it was caused by the State of Oregon (not Aspen), which helps with the transitional costs.

The GAO investigation--the forensic investigation of programs conducted by the United States Government Accountability Office--documented programs giving out false and deceptive information to parents about tax deductibility of tuition and program expenses. Those cases were referred to the IRS for prosecution.  

Auntie Em

Most of the parents dont do their own taxes.  They have an accountant do them.

Doesn't matter who does the taxes, the taxpayer is responsible. But we digress.

Here is the link to the GAO report, entitled "Residential Programs: Selected Cases of Death, Abuse, and Deceptive Marketing," from the GAO Office of Forensic Audits and Special Investigations: http://http://edlabor.house.gov/testimony/2008-04-24-GregKutz.pdf.

Auntie Em

[psy]

Plus the relocation expenses are tax deductable because it was caused by the State of Oregon (not Aspen), which helps with the transitional costs.

The GAO investigation--the forensic investigation of programs conducted by the United States Government Accountability Office--documented programs giving out false and deceptive information to parents about tax deductibility of tuition and program expenses. Those cases were referred to the IRS for prosecution.  

Auntie Em

Most of the parents dont do their own taxes.  They have an accountant do them.

Doesn't matter who does the taxes, the taxpayer is responsible. But we digress.

Here is the link to the GAO report, entitled "Residential Programs: Selected Cases of Death, Abuse, and Deceptive Marketing," from the GAO Office of Forensic Audits and Special Investigations: http://http://edlabor.house.gov/testimony/2008-04-24-GregKutz.pdf.

Auntie Em

Just for posterity...

The full report is here:
http://www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?GAO-08-713T

The video of the second hearing is here:
http://edwork.edgeboss.net/wmedia/edwor ... 042408.wvx
(includes Kat Whitehead's testimony about MBA).

The first hearing's report is here (primarily regarding wilderness deaths):
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08146t.pdf

First hearing video here:
http://edwork.edgeboss.net/wmedia/edwor ... 101007.asx

[Whooter]

Plus the relocation expenses are tax deductable because it was caused by the State of Oregon (not Aspen), which helps with the transitional costs.

The GAO investigation--the forensic investigation of programs conducted by the United States Government Accountability Office--documented programs giving out false and deceptive information to parents about tax deductibility of tuition and program expenses. Those cases were referred to the IRS for prosecution.  

Auntie Em

Most of the parents dont do their own taxes.  They have an accountant do them.

Doesn't matter who does the taxes, the taxpayer is responsible. But we digress.

Here is the link to the GAO report, entitled "Residential Programs: Selected Cases of Death, Abuse, and Deceptive Marketing," from the GAO Office of Forensic Audits and Special Investigations: http://http://edlabor.house.gov/testimony/2008-04-24-GregKutz.pdf.

Auntie Em

Ultimately The tax payer is responsible to the government, but the accountant is on the hook for missing it in the tax code so the difference would be recoverable from them.  Most accountants make up the difference when it is their mistake, unless you are using someone like h&R Block, then you might be out of luck.

[Anonymous]

Just for posterity...

The full report is here:
http://www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?GAO-08-713T

The video of the second hearing is here:
http://edwork.edgeboss.net/wmedia/edwor ... 042408.wvx
(includes Kat Whitehead's testimony about MBA).

The first hearing's report is here (primarily regarding wilderness deaths):
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08146t.pdf

First hearing video here:
http://edwork.edgeboss.net/wmedia/edwor ... 101007.asx

Thank you Psy.

[Troll Control]

:bump:

Aspen Education's pedophile employees sexually exploit children for fun and profit.  Disgusting animals!

[Whooter]

:bump: These people devised the master plan to take down the Twin Towers.  Wait for the trial to begin and I will show you all I am right.  Their time is coming.

Aspen Education's pedophile employees sexually exploit children for fun and profit.  Disgusting animals!



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