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« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2003, 07:51:00 PM »
Well, this thread certainly has taken on a life of its own.  Too bad there's so much heat and so little light.  FYI people, WWASP did not add me to their complaint until some time AFTER they sued Sue Scheff.  Previously they claimed that Sue posted under my name, which is laughable considering that I was active in this cause before Sue ever heard of WWASP.  I'm fairly certain that I first posted this thread BEFORE I was served process, so I was not doing it to obtain witnesses for my own use.  My purpose was to obtain witness to help persuade government officials to do something about WWASP.    

I was going to respond to some of the anonymous postings I saw here, and then decided not to dignify them with an answer.  

One thing I will say:  I do not work for Sue Scheff, or anyone else in this movement.  The only compensation I have ever received was a magazine subscription in payment for an article I wrote for a trade publication.  Aside from that I have never received one copper penny of payment or compensation from anyone, not in cash, nor in kind, nor in favors returned, nor any good or valuable consideration of any kind, ever.  I am prepared to repeat this statement under the penalties of perjury in any court in the land.  Certainly, WWASP has yet to prove to the contrary.  I don't think they have a case, and I think the Judge is going to agree before much more time passes.
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« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2003, 09:35:00 PM »
Hey Jeff,
I've known about you for some time, even communicated with you, but know little about your personal interest in this effort.
I would love to hear what brought you to this and keeps you involved.
If your "bio" or story is posted somewhere, just provide a link, or email me privately.
Thanks,
Deborah
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« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2003, 11:57:00 PM »
I beleive there was an inquiry as to who attended the seminar? Let me state that I attended the seminar and was blown away by Rick Ross and Wes Fager.  I met Straight survivors and heard their horrendous testimonies and my heart went out to each and every one of them.  I commend them for speaking out and trying to shut these places down.  

To the anon's who seem to have some personal vendetta against Sue Scheff & Jeff Berryman:  Why don't you take all this wasted energy and put it to some good use?  ::bangin::

I'm telling you, the ignorance is unbelieveable!

Nancy Colburn
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« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2003, 12:46:00 AM »
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On 2002-10-31 20:42:00, Jeff_Berryman wrote:

"One of my associates is in contact with government officials who are ready to close down Tranquility Bay. We need to keep them interested and keep the evidence coming. Everyone with first hand knowledge of TB

who is willing to make a sworn statement please E-mail me at Jeff_Berryman@excite.com. I will forward your E-mail to my associate and she will get back to you with the particulars.  



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« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2003, 01:03:00 AM »
Good one Nancy - Jeff is part of the court documents as a multiple poster bashing WWASPS programs on sites just like this one.  Of course you would defend him - he's one of you   :rofl:
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« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2003, 01:47:00 AM »
Here's an idea.  Put the court record online and charge people $25.00 to read it with all monies collected to be donated to next year's conference.

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« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2003, 12:33:00 PM »
Is anybody really on the side of the kids?  No, this is all about a small group of big-mouthed ego-maniacs.
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« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2003, 05:47:00 PM »
Would you anon poster be so considerate as to identify who or what you are referring to when you use
It, they, we, us, anybody, small group, all ya'll...

Most of us don't know who "they,we,us, or them", are half the time.
Naming the person or group you are referring to would make your comments easier to understand.

This is a public forum. Don't expect people to read your mind or search through the archives to figure out who the hell you MIGHT be referring to.
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« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2003, 07:58:00 AM »
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On 2003-08-12 18:35:00, Deborah wrote:

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Hey Jeff,

I've known about you for some time, even communicated with you, but know little about your personal interest in this effort.

I would love to hear what brought you to this and keeps you involved.

If your "bio" or story is posted somewhere, just provide a link, or email me privately.

Thanks,

Deborah"


Deborah -

Obviously you know about Berryman, since he is a member of your private listserve.

 :roll:
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« Reply #54 on: September 01, 2003, 10:18:00 AM »
Deborah,
You see the previous post...these are the kinds of games people get so tired of.  You pretend not to know Jeff, why?  Is this why it upset you so bad that I posted your connection?
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« Reply #55 on: September 01, 2003, 12:19:00 PM »
You pretend not to know Jeff, why? Is this why it upset you so bad that I posted your connection?

Are you calling me a liar Carey? Upset that you posted "my connection"?
How I know Jeff and how he came to be on my listserve was explained in another thread. I'm not making any apologizes for not knowing everything about Jeff- membership to a listserve does not require that one divulge everything about themselves. My previous post was an honest request, no pretense involved.

In your quest against Pure you've lost all objectivity. Had I known Jeff/Sue, there would be no need for him to "monitor" my list?

I have no affiliation with Pure, directly or via Jeff. I will continue to share information with who I choose to- and it will probably happen that I don't always have a person's complete bio before I do so.

Like I said Carey, you'll just have to sit with your distressed imaginings.
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« Reply #56 on: September 01, 2003, 12:25:00 PM »
Deborah, I could have sworn you said in a previous post that those who are on your listserv are highly screened.  Well, if that statement is true, and Jeff were on your listserv, then why would you not already know alot about Jeff.  Why the need for pretending?

If I were calling you a liar, I would say Deborah your a liar.  I have not done that, have I?
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« Reply #57 on: September 01, 2003, 12:43:00 PM »
Cerey,
Go back and read how Jeff came to be a member.
What I know about Jeff/Sue I have learned here. If he wants to post actions against WWASP to the membership, as he does here, he is still welcomed to do so- which has actually been the extent of his particpation. Nothing more, nothing less. If he runs any other agenda- promoting alternative programs, etc; he'll be unsubscribed.

And no Carey, you don't have the guts to come out and directly accuse me of lying because you're working with your imaginings, which you aren't sure of. You make indirect accusations so you can weasle your ass out of the crack if your wrong, by denying what you absolutely imply.

Deborah

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