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Re: Michael R. made the choice to kill himself.
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2009, 04:58:25 PM »
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Quote from: "He would have killed himself sooner or later."
Michael R was mentally ill.  He would have killed himself sooner or later.

Michael was "labeled" with a "mental Illness".
The label itself carries a huge social stigma.
Labels come from the DSM-IV and are the Bible of Pill Pushing Shrinks and Big Pharma.
There are no medical tests that prove "a chemical imbalance in the brain"
What Micheal was actually disturbed about we might never know.
It is far too easy to get yourself diagnosed with a Mental Illness and be medicated for it.
These legal "drugs" mess you up worse than the problem that was causing you anxiety or depression in the first place.
When we help people solve their problems with compassion and practical solutions to stress, we will see a big decrease in suicide.



Nice post.  Just to add to your thoughts.  I have observed that the more successful kids that graduate from programs are the ones who have been successfully removed from all substances i.e. medications, cigarettes, alcohol etc.

Many of the programs tend to try to remove the kids from the medications they were on, if they can,  and move  away from labels as you mentioned and move towards a token economy.  Children with depression tend to benefit from general cognitive therapy and merely just increasing their daily activity which is a programs strength.

Evidence shows that very few students take their own lives during their stay at a program which plays against the view of the very staunch anti-program groups so they need to try to dirty up programs by tagging them with the deaths of graduates 3,4 or even decades after graduation which really speaks to just how successful and safe these places really are and is viewed as a tribute by some.
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Re: Michael R. made the choice to kill himself.
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2009, 05:23:31 PM »
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It is probably harder to kill yourself in a program due to access of guns ,poison or ropes and pills.
It is also true that you are being constantly monitored if you even have a history of self-injury or suicide attempt.
I think where programs are concerned in my own experience they drive you absolutely bonkers!
There is a lot of thought reform and mind control and straight up brainwashing and torture done in programs.
Branwashed people don't know that they are brainwashed!
A lot of damage done in programs may not even be evident for years to come.
What program did you attend?
have you experienced any of the abusive programs?
All these things are mentally unhealthy, and can not be cured by a pill.

Did you attempt suicide or experiment with cocaine?  Your grammatical errors are indicative you did.
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Re: Michael R. made the choice to kill himself.
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2009, 06:00:57 PM »
Quote from: "Eliscu2"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Eliscu2"
Quote from: "He would have killed himself sooner or later."
Michael R was mentally ill.  He would have killed himself sooner or later.

Michael was "labeled" with a "mental Illness".
The label itself carries a huge social stigma.
Labels come from the DSM-IV and are the Bible of Pill Pushing Shrinks and Big Pharma.
There are no medical tests that prove "a chemical imbalance in the brain"
What Micheal was actually disturbed about we might never know.
It is far too easy to get yourself diagnosed with a Mental Illness and be medicated for it.
These legal "drugs" mess you up worse than the problem that was causing you anxiety or depression in the first place.
When we help people solve their problems with compassion and practical solutions to stress, we will see a big decrease in suicide.

Nice post.  Just to add to your thoughts.  I have observed that the more successful kids that graduate from programs are the ones who have been successfully removed from all substances i.e. medications, cigarettes, alcohol etc.

Many of the programs tend to try to remove the kids from the medications they were on, if they can,  and move  away from labels as you mentioned and move towards a token economy.  Children with depression tend to benefit from general cognitive therapy and merely just increasing their daily activity which is a programs strength.

Evidence shows that very few students take their own lives during their stay at a program which plays against the view of the very staunch anti-program groups so they need to try to dirty up programs by tagging them with the deaths of graduates 3,4 or even decades after graduation which really speaks to just how successful and safe these places really are and is viewed as a tribute by some.


It is probably harder to kill yourself in a program due to access of guns ,poison or ropes and pills.
It is also true that you are being constantly monitored if you even have a history of self-injury or suicide attempt.
I think where programs are concerned in my own experience they drive you absolutely bonkers!
There is a lot of thought reform and mind control and straight up brainwashing and torture done in programs.
Branwashed people don't know that they are brainwashed!
A lot of damage done in programs may not even be evident for years to come.
What program did you attend?
have you experienced any of the abusive programs?
All these things are mentally unhealthy, and can not be cured by a pill.

No, I am a parent who had a daughter in a program and fortunately it wasnt abusive and was able to help her.  I think the part that help her the most was the structure and therapy she received there.  she was able to concentrate on herself and get back to her school work and by the time she got out she was back on track.
She was on 2 different anti depressants and a bipolar med when she went in and wasnt taking anything when she graduated.  Her home therapist had her on a bipolar med also which the program took her off immediately.  Subsequent testing after graduation proved she wasnt bipolar.  She presently is using eastern medicine and acupuncture to deal with some minor discomforts but that is the extent of it.
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Re: Michael R. made the choice to kill himself.
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2009, 06:05:12 PM »
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She presently is using eastern medicine and acupuncture to deal with some minor discomforts but that is the extent of it.

Eastern medicine from China otherwise known as a placebo.  :roflmao:
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