So much for that whole unmoderated fornits experiment, huh?

[Anonymous]

It's interesting that the administrator of this forum views the unmoderated, free speech forums as throwaway and useless. I wonder why the moderated forums on fornits get so little traffic, yet the admins continue to try to get people to post in them?

Fornits sure ain't what it used to be.

[psy]

It's interesting that the administrator of this forum views the unmoderated, free speech forums as throwaway and useless. I wonder why the moderated forums on fornits get so little traffic, yet the admins continue to try to get people to post in them?

Fornits sure ain't what it used to be.

Every time I sticky a fucking announcement I get this thread.  Give it a rest.  This place is already less moderated than 4chan for chrissakes.  You're free to post in the new forum but If you start going "KILL HIM/HER" you'll likely have your post deleted (Che's/Ursus's discretion).  If you want your forum with your own rules, ask Antigen and she might very well comply if you can demonstrate there will be sufficient demand (..and starting the CALO subforum was ultimately her decision.  I just work here.).

Think of it this way.  90% of the board is "public property".  The few moderated sub-forums are "private property".  While the government guarantees the rights of people to speak what they will on "public property", the government also guarantees the right of private establishments to run their "businesses/homes" as they see fit, making their own rules and throwing out troublemakers if they deem it necessary.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting that the administrator of this forum views the unmoderated, free speech forums as throwaway and useless. I wonder why the moderated forums on fornits get so little traffic, yet the admins continue to try to get people to post in them?

Fornits sure ain't what it used to be.

Every time I sticky a fucking announcement I get this thread.  Give it a rest.  This place is already less moderated than 4chan for chrissakes.  You're free to post in the new forum but If you start going "KILL HIM/HER" you'll likely have your post deleted.  If you want your forum with your own rules, ask Antigen and she might very well comply if you can demonstrate there will be sufficient demand (..and starting the CALO subforum was ultimately her decision.  I just work here.).  Think of it this way.  90% of the board is "public property".  The few moderated sub-forums are "private property".  While the government guarantees the rights of people to speak what they will on "public property", the government also guarantees the right of private establishments to run their "businesses/homes" as they see fit, making their own rules and throwing out troublemakers if they deem it necessary.

Nice excuse, but your hypocrisy is showing. You just outlined the same belief that Bush maintained, Free speech zones. Remember those? That's what you support. I hope you give Bush some credit for your censoring and free speech policy. Fornits was way better before you made it your pet project.

[Che Gookin]

hey, he told me the same thing when I asked him for a CALO forum a few days. He's being consistent and reasonable considering the sheer number of barely used forums.

In fact.. Psy.. demod me for melting pot and merge that forum with the open forum will you?

[Anonymous]

It's interesting that the administrator of this forum views the unmoderated, free speech forums as throwaway and useless. I wonder why the moderated forums on fornits get so little traffic, yet the admins continue to try to get people to post in them?

Fornits sure ain't what it used to be.

Norma Stiff (Psy)  :cry:  will start deleting posts if you push him over the edge.  I want to moderate my own forum.  It would be Dave Letterman's top 10 list why fornits members bitch and moan.

[psy]

Nice excuse, but your hypocrisy is showing. You just outlined the same belief that Bush maintained, Free speech zones.

And he tried to do that on public property which was disgusting.  Private establishments, on the other hand, should be able to throw somebody out for any reason or no reason at all.  If you can't abide by the rules of a private establishment, they'll likely throw you out.

What you're talking about is hardly limited to Bush, though.  Both parties have done it.  Read the history of the issue before spouting partisan dogma.  And just for the record I couldn't stand Bush.  Don't much like Obama either.  Furthermore, those "free speech" zones were fenced off.  Nothing is preventing speech here from reaching the same audience it did before.

Remember those? That's what you support. I hope you give Bush some credit for your censoring and free speech policy. Fornits was way better before you made it your pet project.[/quote]
Moderated forums on this board existed before I got here and this was ultimately Antigen's decision.

This has been discussed and debated to death before.  I have no interest in rehashing it again. I'm done with this thread.

[Anonymous]

Unregulated speech produces the best results, in the same way that a free market will produce the best results. Here I thought this place was run by Libertarians?? You take a thread from the TTI and move it to a moderated forum, and watch it die within a couple days. How many times is this experiment in coddling parents going to happen? It fails every time, and it will this time as well.

[psy]

Norma Stiff (Psy)  :cry:  will start deleting posts if you push him over the edge.  I want to moderate my own forum.  It would be Dave Letterman's top 10 list why fornits members bitch and moan.

Sounds like a decent idea.  Send me/antigen an email.

/thread

[psy]

Unregulated speech produces the best results, in the same way that a free market will produce the best results. Here I thought this place was run by Libertarians?

Libertarians also belive in private property ownership.  See analogy in first post.

You take a thread from the TTI and move it to a moderated forum

Not going to happen.

[Anonymous]

It's not like fornits doesn't have enough useless empty forums one is forced to scroll through to find the one or two useful ones. For some reason the busiest forums are the unmoderated ones, fancy that. Better create more moderated forums then, that makes sense.

Remember when you all thought your secret hidden moderated forum would put an end to the TTI? That was funny.

[Anonymous]

Unregulated speech produces the best results, in the same way that a free market will produce the best results. Here I thought this place was run by Libertarians?

Libertarians also belive in private property ownership.  See analogy in first post.

You take a thread from the TTI and move it to a moderated forum

Not going to happen.

You all can do whatever it is you want with your forum. I'm not claiming I have some God endowed right to post here. I'm am pointing out your hypocrisy. You maintain an unhealthy level of smugness for being the only unmoderated forum in the industry, and make fun of Lon and others for using moderators. You put  the term open, unmoderated discussion as a badge of honor at the top of the page. While in reality 90% of the forums underneath this banner are moderated. Do you really expect people to ignore this type of hypocrisy? Thats not even getting into the whole "fornits philosophy" about free speech, which you conveniently use when a survivor asks for information to be taken down that threatens them or something.