"Your questions were leading. Example: "Every anti-program project, protest or idea has failed. Why?" and "Do they realize their efforts are fruitless?" and "Why is it that every attempt to organize an anti-program movement, in any way, has resulted in complete and utter failure?". They're more statements than questions. They presuppose failure. If "every anti-program project" had actually been a failure. You might have a valid question there. I'm not going to even bother quoting your original post."
I read through the bottom forum on this website dedicated to projects and protests. Nothing came of any of those, my question is valid. I clicked on the websites in your signature, that forum looks empty to me. I heard you protested, yet your targeted programs stands. I want to know, from your perspective, why you think that is. If you can't answer these simple questions without feeling intimidated by them, then it proves how faulty your ideas really are.
"thought provoking" is extremely relative, as is "garbage". The reason this site is unmoderated is because a reader should be the one to decide that."
You accused me of trying to keep people from posting. I'm asking you, if that were true why wouldn't I just hire someone to post spam all day long on your website? Instead I ask relevant, to the point questions and you somehow interpret it as a threat. Paranoid? Nervous your ideas don't hold water against a common sense question?
"Again, you're claiming that nothing has been achieved, which is false."
You haven't achieved anything. Parents can still choose to send their kids wherever they want. No regulation has been passed, which means, at best, you are asking parents to pwitty pwease don't send your kid to the mean progwam that hurt me. What has worked, is the free market. Parents don't pay money to have their kids treated badly, they want them to be helped, treated and saved. Better programs attract these parents, and older programs fall. You are attributing the natural evolution of the industry as your own personal achievement. I'm calling bullshit on that.
"Show me those 20 for every 1. Statements written inside the program don't count. Show me 20 people who have been out of a program discussed here for several years who still think it saved their lives. "
Show me 20 kids that say Benchmark abused them.
"There is nothing preventing those people from posting here. "
Yet there are only a small number of you claiming abuse. If the majority of the tens or hundreds of thousands of kids that have been in some sort of treatment were abused, I'm sure fornits would be a bit busier, don't you think?
"The only reason why most of the stories on this site are negative in regards to a specific program is because most of the experiences were negative. "
If you start an anti-whatever site the people who show up are all going to post stories to reinforce your belief. You claim this site is open to everyone, but you are hardly welcoming to those who feel programs had a positive impact on them. The silent majority disagrees with your incorrect assertion.
"There is nobody moderating the dialogue here and preventing positive experiences from being talked about. If over 95% of people had positive experiences in the programs discussed here as you claim, this site would be overflowing with praise."
They don't spend their time, years after getting out of the program, talking to the damaged individuals who never quite moved on with their life. Do you spend your time googling, say, anti-automobile forums? Because people die in car accidents, so there's probably a small minority of people who want all cars banned to prevent the auto holocaust from continuing. When's the last time you googled that? You have to get some perspective. While this occupies your thoughts, it's just a memory to most people.
"If you say so. Me? I think you're logic is based on so many false assumptions it's not even worth my time to point them all out. I'll leave it up to the reader to decide."
How brave of you to leave it up to the reader. Are you sure you don't want to interpret our conversation for them, and tell them what to think? I'm sure that bright red name of yours carries some weight around here with enough suckers.
Think about what compelled you to post such a lengthy explanation to this thread. Common sense is dangerous to faulty ideas.
