Author Topic: My son at Aspen Ranch  (Read 113639 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Whooter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5513
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #360 on: October 10, 2009, 06:55:05 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Roger Glasdco"
finally the parents catch wind
And just what were the parents doing for all those years before they "caught wind".

They are busy raising a family.  Seems all the other kids in the family respect their parents' trust and are doing fine except that little crapper who sneaks out at night and drinks the cool-aid from his friends, lies to his parents and school counsellor, getting caught skipping school and writing false notes... always asking for one more chance and getting his therapist to intercede for him.. until the parents finally get wind of the inevitability that local options are just not working.. so the little snot  needs to be shipped off to “programs are us” to try a new flavor of cool-aid which will get him back on track.  We all know and seem to agree that the kid did not become out of control over night so it will take time for the new cool-aid to take effect.  That is why the program length is set the way it is.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Whooter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5513
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #361 on: October 10, 2009, 07:17:39 PM »
Quote from: "Mark Rosen"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Roger Glasdco"
finally the parents catch wind
And just what were the parents doing for all those years before they "caught wind".

They are busy raising a family.  Seems all the other kids in the family respect their parents' trust and are doing fine except that little crapper who sneaks out at night and drinks the cool-aid from his friends, lies to his parents and school counsellor, getting caught skipping school and writing false notes... always asking for one more chance and getting his therapist to intercede for him.. until the parents finally get wind of the inevitability that local options are just not working.. so the little snot  needs to be shipped off to “programs are us” to try a new flavor of cool-aid which will get him back on track.  We all know and seem to agree that the kid did not become out of control over night so it will take time for the new cool-aid to take effect.  That is why the program length is set the way it is.

I hear ya!!  It just pisses me off that kids like this play the victim the rest of their lives.  Wa,Wa I was sent to a program and never did anything wrong, its all my parents fault that I turned out this way,  society owes me a free ride,  I was abused in the program ,they forced me to study and clean my own clothes and my room against my will.... I never even had a trial or due process.  All my brothers and sisters are doing fine except me, why was I singled out to be the failure in the family?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #362 on: October 10, 2009, 11:02:11 PM »
Quote from: "Mark Rosen"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Roger Glasdco"
finally the parents catch wind
And just what were the parents doing for all those years before they "caught wind".

They are busy raising a family. Seems all the other kids in the family respect their parents' trust and are doing fine except that little crapper who sneaks out at night and drinks the cool-aid from his friends, lies to his parents and school counsellor, getting caught skipping school and writing false notes... always asking for one more chance and getting his therapist to intercede for him.. until the parents finally get wind of the inevitability that local options are just not working.. so the little snot needs to be shipped off to “programs are us” to try a new flavor of cool-aid which will get him back on track. We all know and seem to agree that the kid did not become out of control over night so it will take time for the new cool-aid to take effect. That is why the program length is set the way it is.

Nice try...no cigar.  "Busy raising a family"...exactly: too busy to notice there is one "little crapper" who needs some extra vigilance.  An attentive parent will figure out sooner rather thal later that the kid is sneaking out etc.  Being in constant contact with the school and teachers will nip the false note writing in the bud.  With my kid it happened ONE TIME  and that was it.  After that it was regular checking in with the teachers, monitoring homework etc.  I did not let it get out of hand.  Its very telling that you keep referencing "parents" who "finally get wind". :rofl:  

Let me guess: you ignored your kid, were too busy to notice what was going on until one day you "got
wind" that things were a little out of control so  when the shrink couldn't fix it you shipped the little crapper off hoping a program would have the right flavor of Kool-Aid since he wasn't having any of yours.  Now the kid is rightously pissed for being shipped off; you're pissed at him ( or her)  for not being grateful for all the money you spent. And you are still mad at the little crapper for what he did before you sent him away and pissed as hell that anyone would try to make you feel guilty for  :nods: it.   :nods:
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Whooter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5513
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #363 on: October 11, 2009, 07:04:50 AM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Nice try...no cigar. "Busy raising a family"...exactly: too busy to notice there is one "little crapper" who needs some extra vigilance. An attentive parent will figure out sooner rather thal later that the kid is sneaking out etc. Being in constant contact with the school and teachers will nip the false note writing in the bud. With my kid it happened ONE TIME and that was it. After that it was regular checking in with the teachers, monitoring homework etc. I did not let it get out of hand. Its very telling that you keep referencing "parents" who "finally get wind".

I dont think you should have had it happen the first time.  You should have cut back on your job or quit and spent more time at home instead of farming your "problem child" out to teachers to do your job for you.  If you had raised your child right he/she would not feel the need to lie to you or the teachers and write false notes.  This was a red flag that you should not have ignored and should not have brushed it off as a “onetime” occurrence, as you called it, ignoring the underlying problem which caused him to lie in the first place.  Oviously this problem was there for awhile, manifesting, before it surfaced in the form of lying to you and his teachers which showed a lack of trust.  This is why you had problems with him later on and wasn’t motivated to move on to attend college.  Most parents raise kids to be respectful and dont need to keep checking in with teachers every day.  If you spent more time with them when they were young then you would not have had those problems.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #364 on: October 11, 2009, 03:03:23 PM »
I can see I touched a sore spot and my assumptions were correct.  Having some anger issues are we?  Point scoring.     I can see you feel like such a failure as a parent you need to do a little "swift-boating".  If this is how you communicated with the little crapper I can see why he refused to drink your Kool-Aid.   Developing some real communication skills might help in dealing with the little crapper when he gets paroled.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Whooter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5513
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #365 on: October 11, 2009, 03:14:27 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
I can see I touched a sore spot and my assumptions were correct.  Having some anger issues are we?  Point scoring.     I can see you feel like such a failure as a parent you need to do a little "swift-boating".  If this is how you communicated with the little crapper I can see why he refused to drink your Kool-Aid.   Developing some real communication skills might help in dealing with the little crapper when he gets paroled.

You toned down a little when the shoe was placed on the other foot lol.  So you see your parenting skills where not what you thought they were and that is okay, there is a lot of help and support out there.  Try to hang in there and dont dwell on your past failures as much, just try to focus on what you can do today to salvage your relationship with your child.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline NIGEL

  • Posts: 66
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #366 on: October 13, 2009, 10:42:29 AM »
I just got back from visiting my son.  I picked him up on Sunday and took him out for dinner.  I brought some of his favorite CD's so we could listen to music on the drive.  We had a great evening.  He said he didn't want to talk about The Aspen Ranch.  He only wanted to talk about his families and friends.  He talked about what he wants to do when he comes home---he wants to finish High School so he can attend college.  His goal is to take classes that will enable him to work in the music business, whether it be as a musician or in production.  We took a short hike after dinner (there are some buffalo nearby at a place called The Lodge).  
On Monday, I visited him at the Ranch.  I got to meet two more of his teachers.  We went down to look at the horses and we talked to the Equine Therapist.  My son loves his horse (Smarty).  He says that Smarty is a little "head strong" so they are a perfect fit.  I got to see his dorm and his room (both were clean and organized).  We took a hike to the top of a nearby mountain and had a long talk.  I asked him about all of the staff and he claims that his teachers are "the best" and that his therapist is "pretty good."  His only complaint was with one of the night staff (they watch the kids at night).  We talked about the kids.  He says he has made some great friends.  He has made plans with one of the boys to take a "roadtrip" up and down the west coast when they get out.  He also spoke of some kids that he didn't like.  He told me that he is really working hard at advancing to the next level, as he wants to go snowboarding with me in December/January.  He is also working hard at his studies.  I told him that I really see a change in his attitude and I asked him what he attributed it to.  He says he definitely has had a change in the way he thinks and that it is because he has had a lot of time to think.  He claims that talks he has had with some of the staff (the unlicensed ones) about their struggles and how they turned their lives around has really inspired him.  I asked him if these staff ever lead any of the group therapy sessions and he said that his therpist leads the sessions, but the staff are easy to talk to when they are just hanging around the dorm. He did tell me that he wants to come home and he wanted to make sure that I was going to make the decision on when to bring him home and I wasn't going to soley rely on The Aspen Ranch to make that decision.  I told him that I was going to make the decision and that I was very proud of his efforts and that I wanted to see him continue in this manner.  
As you can read, my son has really turned it around.  Whether it is because he really is changing for all the right reasons or just because he wants to come home, I don't know for sure, but at least he is "jumping through some hoops."  He looked healthy and strong (he has been working out in PE).  Our next visit is in early November.  I will keep you posted.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Whooter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5513
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #367 on: October 13, 2009, 11:15:04 AM »
Nigel, I am so glad your visit went well.  Your son is progressing beautifully, you must be on cloud nine.
Thanks for posting, I enjoy reading your updates.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Troll Control

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7391
  • Karma: +1/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #368 on: October 13, 2009, 11:24:51 AM »
NIGEL Outed as Who's Sock Puppet:

In TheWho's desire to create the perfect fictional success story, he has slipped up and gave away the fact that he is also NIGEL.  He's also "Dot MacKinnon" and several other posters.

Pathetic, laughable.

NIGEL, what color was the paint on the exterior of your son's dorm building?

Why did you leave out that your son's complaint against the "night staff" was that they had a sexual encounter?  Don't want that bad publicity getting out??

TheWho is such a weak sock-puppeteer...
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
The Linchpin Link

Whooter - The Most Prolific Troll Fornits Has Ever Seen - The Definitive Links
**********************************************************************************************************
"Looks like a nasty aspentrolius sticci whooterensis infestation you got there, Ms. Fornits.  I\'ll get right to work."

- Troll Control

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
A Reuben Shit Sandwich
« Reply #369 on: October 13, 2009, 11:47:39 AM »
Quote from: "NIGEL"
Whether it is because he really is changing for all the right reasons or just because he wants to come home, I don't know for sure, but at least he is "jumping through some hoops."  He looked healthy and strong (he has been working out in PE).  Our next visit is in early November.  I will keep you posted.



Quote from: "Dot MacKinnon"
Nigel, I am so glad your visit went well.  Your son is progressing beautifully, you must be on cloud nine.
Thanks for posting, I enjoy reading your updates.


Substitute the word "dog" for "son" in the above shite and he might as well be talking about his Golden Retriever.  How is his  coat looking Mistah R?  Did they clear up the stank breath?  Once they've modified him they'll return him like a fresh, hot pizza and he won't do drugs, chase cars, piss on the rug or spend his days idly humping neighborhood bitches.  

Good boy.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline NIGEL

  • Posts: 66
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #370 on: October 13, 2009, 01:11:27 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
NIGEL Outed as Who's Sock Puppet:

In TheWho's desire to create the perfect fictional success story, he has slipped up and gave away the fact that he is also NIGEL.  He's also "Dot MacKinnon" and several other posters.

Pathetic, laughable.

NIGEL, what color was the paint on the exterior of your son's dorm building?

Why did you leave out that your son's complaint against the "night staff" was that they had a sexual encounter?  Don't want that bad publicity getting out??

TheWho is such a weak sock-puppeteer...

I figured I would get this kind of response.  I'll answer your questions, even though I'm pretty sure you aren't looking for the answers:  The exterior of the dorm room is brown---it's a wood building (but anyone could have told you this as you can see pictures of it on their website).  The complaint about the one staff member was that my son feels he is a little power hungry.  

I obviously am not going to change your opinions about me, or maybe you just post comments like these to get a response from me (it worked).  Either way, I will continue to post about what is going on with my son.  While things look great right now, I also know that things can change.  I am not posting here to advocate for the Ranch----only to ask questions, get advice, and make sure I am looking at things from all angles.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Troll Control

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7391
  • Karma: +1/-0
    • View Profile
Re: My son at Aspen Ranch
« Reply #371 on: October 13, 2009, 01:47:58 PM »
Sorry, "NIGEL" but your answers are too atock and your common misspellings, phraseology and grammar errors reveal you are nothing more than TheWho's sockpuppet.  Thanks for playing, but you've been around too long to hide your traits from people.

Which licensed therapist is your son seeing "NIGEL"?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
The Linchpin Link

Whooter - The Most Prolific Troll Fornits Has Ever Seen - The Definitive Links
**********************************************************************************************************
"Looks like a nasty aspentrolius sticci whooterensis infestation you got there, Ms. Fornits.  I\'ll get right to work."

- Troll Control

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #372 on: October 13, 2009, 01:52:24 PM »
The avoidance of contractions and difficulty with idioms in the who/Nigel/John D. Reuben/STICC postings indicate English is not the writer's first language.  

Reuben's company:

http://www.correlsense.com/company/team
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline NIGEL

  • Posts: 66
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re:
« Reply #373 on: October 13, 2009, 02:01:36 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
The avoidance of contractions and difficulty with idioms in the who/Nigel/John D. Reuben/STICC postings indicate English is not the writer's first language.  

Reuben's company:

http://www.correlsense.com/company/team

English is my first language, but definitely not my expertise.  I am a math teacher.  I have the day off after traveling to DC with my 8th graders for a week and then heading to Utah as soon as I got back.  I am not going to name my son's therapist at this time because I am not sure how I feel about that.  If that causes you to question my authenticity, so be it.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Re: A Reuben Shit Sandwich
« Reply #374 on: October 13, 2009, 02:04:01 PM »
Quote from: "John Dash MacReuben"
Quote from: "NIGEL"
Whether it is because he really is changing for all the right reasons or just because he wants to come home, I don't know for sure, but at least he is "jumping through some hoops."  He looked healthy and strong (he has been working out in PE).  Our next visit is in early November.  I will keep you posted.



Quote from: "Dot MacKinnon"
Nigel, I am so glad your visit went well.  Your son is progressing beautifully, you must be on cloud nine.
Thanks for posting, I enjoy reading your updates.


Substitute the word "dog" for "son" in the above shite and he might as well be talking about his Golden Retriever.  How is his  coat looking Mistah R?  Did they clear up the stank breath?  Once they've modified him they'll return him like a fresh, hot pizza and he won't do drugs, chase cars, piss on the rug or spend his days idly humping neighborhood bitches.  

Good boy.
shiny coat n' ther' fixin' im'...bahaahahaahhaaahahahahahahaah theheheheheheheehheehehehheehheh baahahaahahahahaha oh ahum, tee heeeheheheheheheeeeee
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »