Little did i know

[Anonymous]

On 2003-08-28 21:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I appreciate the wise word.



My comment "everything is secondary to that fact" was referring to Pure's referral to schools.  Parents helping parents is what Pure is all about.



Not referral fees......



When my son was born it was the most profound ,important thing that ever happened in my life.Everything i have ever done was to assist him in his growth.Beause I love him.



As a parent we make mistakes. There's no doubt in my mind my purpose in life.It is to my children,to my family.





"whole and healthy families :smile:   What a crock of shit that is!!!!  BIG Scam!  sounds pretty."

Okay, here we go with PURE again, but what I see is that PURE is helping parents, not the kids.  WWASPS helps the whole family..FACT.

What DOES tiny little PURE do to help the whole family, with support, tuition, aftercare, personal growth and family seminars, etc.?  I don't see them helping parents, but poisoning their minds with opinions, not facts, to get business. PERIOD.  

I wonder what would happen if PURe actually divulged the schools they refer to...could THEY pass the microscope that wwasps has been under?

What about it...can we get that list and do some investigations of our own?

[Anonymous]

Fact : WWASP  does more damage to the family than when they started.

That was our experiece.

The seminars are all about brainwashing.  To continue committment to keep the money rolling in.

The lies are endless.


Fact: Afer care,tuition support etc etc etc is bullshit.


Pure helps parents. Everything else is secondary.

I know what I have experienced. You continually  ignore that FACT.

You are so busy harping on Pure from you percieve to be an issue, and you are chossing to ignore the truth you are being told about WWASP.

What's up with that?

Why do you ignore the truth about wwasp.Truth , what the peole have shared as their experiences??

Where's the integrity , accountabilty?

The Pure bashing is boring and off base.
You do not have your facts correct.

[Anonymous]

WWASP Supporters, your only defense is acting like all the posts are coming from PURE. There are thousands of us out there who have been emotionally and physically damaged by WWASP!

[Deborah]

Here's some interesting excerpts from the Siblings Manual. I thought it was interesting that they addressed the issue of brainwashing: http://www2.netdoor.com/~ssl/~ssl/Sibling%20Manual.htm


How does the program work? Are they brain washing my brother/sister?
The program works by encouraging, reinforcing and rewarding positive choices. Poor behavior and negative choices result in immediate consequences such as CATs. It is not brainwashing because the kids get to make their own choices.

4. Why can?t I see them? Why can?t I talk to them on the phone?
No one from home can see them or talk on the phone to them for a long time, including your parents. This is a time for them to look at what they were doing and learn to make changes. Seeing or hearing you or your parents just makes it harder for them to change. They learn how much they really do care about you and your parents by not being allowed to talk to or see you guys and that helps them change.

How could my parents send my brother/sister to some place they never even seen?
It is likely your parents wanted to find a safe place for your brother/sister so badly that they could actually make a decision like this, as crazy as it may seem to you. They may have not had time to visit the facility, but they certainly reviewed information about the facility, talked with other parents who have faced similar situations, or obtained a referral from someone prior to making this difficult decision.

Are these seminars brainwashing my parents?
It may seem like aliens have turned your parents' brains to jello when they come home after the seminars, but they have NOT been brainwashed. The classes are really long, so for one thing, your parents have not had much sleep, and you know how that can make you act. (Ever walk into a wall or trip over your shoes when you were really tired?) The big thing is that the seminars teach your parents new ways to look at their own thoughts and actions and to learn things about themselves.

Why are my parents so tired after these seminars?
Can you say ?slumber party?? Well, it?s lots more work, but your parents really don?t get much sleep. And they even have homework every night! AND?they get ?in trouble? if they don?t do their homework! (It?s only fair, you know!) Besides, they?re not as young as they used to be! Ha!


Will I be sent away?
No. Your parents aren't through torturing you, yet. Kidding. Actually, if you think about it, your brother/sister made choices that weren't good for them or for your family. This isn't a punishment for them (or for you). It is meant to save their lives. Yeah, that sounds scary! Whether you knew it or not, your brother/sister was living very dangerously and this program is a way to keep them safe that your parents couldn't provide at home.

I feel lonely because my parents are too busy with the Program.
Yes, program parents are the worst, huh? Tell them that you feel lonely. Let your parents know that you want to spend more time with them and help them out by telling them what makes you feel the best.

[Anonymous]

On 2003-08-30 02:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"WWASP Supporters, your only defense is acting like all the posts are coming from PURE. There are thousands of us out there who have been emotionally and physically damaged by WWASP!"

1000's?  Really?  Not all the posts are coming from PURE, but, it seems very likely, from those associated in some way with PURE.  This particular post fits right into the smoke screen PURE uses, whether or not it came from a PURE supporter.  Sure looks like it!  :wink:

[Anonymous]

Not gonna look up "cult" or "brainwashing" in the dictionary, but just share my own view / or what it means to me personally.

Cult - a group of people that have strong beliefs that are different from another's beliefs.

So, with that, wouldn't PURE and their supporters be considered a "cult?"  

To take it beyond that:  Isn't it the view of most "wwaspies" that their strong beliefs in personal growth and family healing is "different" from what didn't work in their family prior to enrolling their child?  

Are they being brainwashed?? Yes!  - They're being brainwashed into taking a stand for their family and living their personal values.  We should be so lucky!  :wink:

[Anonymous]

On 2003-08-30 02:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"WWASP Supporters, your only defense is acting like all the posts are coming from PURE. There are thousands of us out there who have been emotionally and physically damaged by WWASP!"

PURE supports, your only defense is acting like the court document doesn't exists, that it's old news, and you are not posting as mulitiple personalities.  There are thousands of families that are healed or healing because of WWASPS.  Speak your thousands of "damaged" families - aren't you the ones damaging them by making them think what you say is true, just so you can reel them in and pretend to help them by offering something, possibly less effective, so you can have a paycheck? (Just a question that comes to mind.)

[MelissaR]

Shut the fuck up you lunatic, you people drive me goddamn crazy. Are you out of your fucking gourd? What are you thinking? Yay we're brainwashed? You psycho fuck, you'll rot in hell you god damn shitburger. I can't even begin to respond to the ludicris shit you wrote. It's awful, but with the insane amount of intelligence and patience I have, all I want to do is strangle you, no joke. You are absolutely retarded, it boggles my mind how ignorant you are.


With great love,

Melissa

[Carey]

MelissaR you need help. I mean that with all sincerity.  

How old are you?

[MelissaR]

Ahahahahahahahah I need help? I've already been through WWASP, thanks babe... from what I hear you're  not all there either! Tee Hee! :smile: I'm 17, sweet pea. How old are you? You kill me! I need help! OH my godddddddddddddddd.... you need to turn off your trusty computer and go outside and chill out, smoke a bowl, ya know, get faded, something because you're living in a delusional world, you, CAREY, you're nuts too. I'm a teenager, yah, a teenager, just like your "loser" boys whom I guarantee are totally mortified to have you as their mom.... oh my lord, I am about to go party with my friends, ya know, live my life... I came to this board to take WWASP down, not get psychoanalyzed by the psychos... (aka you...) does that make sense? Yo peace! UGH!

[Anonymous]

Melissa is an excellent young lady, who can be make really intelligent comments when she wants to.  She can also come unglued when you all fart off.  Carey, Melissa doesn't need any help you can give or direct her to.  Her story is here on this board, and it is touching and believable.  Take time to find it.

It has been said that the very best way to overcome the brainwashing and humiliation that months and months of WWASP put you through is to become a survivor with a mission.  Melissa is doing just fine in that regard.  Leave her alone.  

Don't you have a vendetta waiting?

[MelissaR]

Carey is just a meddlin' bitch. Enough said. She's a two-timin, lying through her teeth schoundrel, and it's people like her and Sue that are getting in the way of my conquest. Is is of great inportance to me to do whatever I can to keep other kids from experiencing the hell I did in the WWASP programs. I have never had such a conviction in my life. My support for this cause is better than my faith in my religion. I think about it every day, I try to do something to help every day, it's like those die hard mormons. I have such a committment within myself it's incredibly important to make a difference.

[Carey]

Surely Melissa won't be testifing in court.  If she thinks she is helping anybody with what spews out of her mouth, she is dead wrong.

Melissa, you attack my boys, why?  What have they ever done to you?

[MelissaR]

Oh you stupid bitch. Yes, I WILL be testifying in court, sweet thang. You need to look before you leap. Either that, or think long and hard before that trap door of yours opens and bullshit flies out. You have nooooooooo idea what you are talking about! Absolutely none! Do you realize why your kids were smoking pot? Do you know how funny it is when you're high as can be and your parents are squaking at you, similar as how you've done to me in this thread.....? YAH it's freaking hillarious! I'm not attacking your boys, I feel sorry for them... You are too much.... jeez I hope for gods sakes their father goes to the PTA meetings, because you are like a Jehova's Witness, peddlin' nonsense around and whatnot! And you don't stop! You keep ringin' my doorbell, tryin to get in through my garage, peepin in my windows so you can make your point! But what point? You say I spew... aha, I have not heard one sensible statement from that face of yours since I joined the site.  Well from what it sounds like to me, your boys need to get laid, and from what I've seen they're decently cute... have them give me a call! Ahahahahaha..... Oh my, you kill me...

[Carey]

Melissa is an excellent young lady, who can be make really intelligent comments when she wants to. She can also come unglued when you all fart off. Carey, Melissa doesn't need any help you can give or direct her to. Her story is here on this board, and it is touching and believable. Take time to find it.

It has been said that the very best way to overcome the brainwashing and humiliation that months and months of WWASP put you through is to become a survivor with a mission. Melissa is doing just fine in that regard. Leave her alone.

Well, anon after reading Melissa's last post, do you still think she is not in need of help?