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What Bullies know about Bullying
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Curious George" ---It's funny how many experts have opinions on how to handle bullies, none of them seem to get that this psycho-babble doesn't work in the real world.
Teddy Roosevelt had a theory too. Walk softly and carry a big stick. After all, how does our military handle bullies. This seems to be the only thing that really works.
CG
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One of the biggest bullies at Hyde School would appear to be the jokester who started the whole fracas: Joe Gauld. Here's another one: former Hyde headmaster Ed Legg, now apparently a member of Maine's House of Representatives.
:clown:
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "try another castle" ---Im with teddy. I personally think that the only way to handle a bully is to beat the crap out of them, or at least try to. They normally back down. (that was my experience anyway) theyll be pissed, but theyll back down.
Even this isnt necessarily a guarantee that theyll leave you alone, though. If they are thugs as well as cowards, theyll sic their faggoty homie friends on you.. or, theyll just blow your head off.
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I wonder just how many kids Joe Gauld has smacked around? Seems to have become a more frequent occurrence once Hyde School started enrolling girls, his preferred target. I guess he must have felt the likelihood of retaliation was probably somewhat reduced.
Ursus:
Lon Woodbury, whose site was the source link of Malcolm's essay in the OP, has also gotten on the bandwagon with the bullying issue. Here's his version of resolving the problem, from his Parent Empowerment blog. Unbelievably (or, perhaps unfortunately, believably, as the case may be), he comes right out and loads blame on the victim:
...The first flawed premise is that the bully is the whole problem, and the victim is totally innocent. It ignores the possibility that the victim might act in a way to encourage bullying, and thus perversely contributes to their own suffering.[/list]
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Solving Bullying In School
by Lon Woodbury on September 16, 2009
A major issue in schools nationally is the issue of bullying. Most states have initiated legislation in an attempt to curb bullying, through providing consequences against the bully.
This issue of bullying resonates to the staff at private residential emotional growth and therapeutic boarding schools and programs because so many of the students enrolled have either been bullies or their victims, and sometimes both. The issue is so common that having to deal with it in these schools and programs is almost routine. It is so common that it can almost be taken as a given that virtually every student in some way acts in unhealthy ways as either a bully or victim. The basis for dealing with it in these schools and programs is to build a tight structure or environment based on familiar staff involvement that allows consequences to be immediate and appropriate. In addition, the consequences are not punishment, but are treated as a lesson. For example the bully is helped to understand how his/her actions might make them more lonely and isolated and untrusted. In addition, the victim is helped to understand how his/her behaviors might encourage a bully to target them and thus subtly contribute to the problem.
The better known approach utilized by legislatures and school districts around the country was surveyed recently by the Associated Press. The results were reported in the Atlanta-Constitution that concluded that the legislative attempt to curb bullying give scant protection. The reasons given for failure were varied, but in instance after instance the survey found that anti-bullying laws did not help. From my experience it is obvious that this common public approach to this problem is based on some flawed premises. The first flawed premise is that the bully is the whole problem, and the victim is totally innocent. It ignores the possibility that the victim might act in a way to encourage bullying, and thus perversely contributes to their own suffering.
The other premise is that the solution is to simply punish the perpetrator. We all know that straight forward punishment often backfires and is as likely to create resentment as compliance, and the compliance often is simply an act with no lasting positive impact.
I think the lesson we can take from this is that no matter how well intended legislators might be, they do not have the power to directly, in a command and control manner, solve the problem, and the odds are that their actions might make things worse. The way to solve the problem of bullying has been learned in many places. The ones I am most familiar with are in the network of private emotional growth/therapeutic residential schools and programs. That approach is to work with each child as an individual, intervention done by those adults who know that child well, and have earned the child's trust. This is the way both bullies and victims can learn to address their attitudes and fears causing the problem, and help them to find a way of healthier behaviors.
This is the lesson schools and parents can take away from this and start doing something that actually helps children, instead of just demanding legislators pass a law.
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Curious George:
Yea,
You can't legistlate morality. "The only answer to a violent attack is a more viscious and violent counter-attack"...Richard Marcinkco...commander... SEAL team Six, an acutal living breathing hero. Not like Michael Jordan, who I respect for his sports ability, but without them would be flipping burgers at Mc
Donald's.
Most semi-educated non-liberal, know this, the rest are just cake-eaters. The only thing a violent criminal fears most is not the police....it's an armed citizen.
Didn't your parents teach you the way to handle a bully is to punch him/her out??? I know many of you are the product of Clinton's public school system. Yea, you're all butt monkeys, right? Grow some balls or smoke a cigar. I think most of you have some intelligence though. Some of you need an education in real life.
Try growing up in a Catholic environment. After all, for all you religion or anti-religion touting parasites...didn't you read the bilble...Christ didn't come here to unite...he came here to divide..the wheat from the chaff....anyone touting peace and love are known to be usurpers, liars, whitch doctors and possible anti-Christs's and will suffer a fools fate.
Christ came here to divide...not unite. Fools touting peace will burn. We are here to divide too...the wheat from the chaff. Choose your side.
"The only way to survive in this life is to manipulate....and then you will get what you want.....there are life lessons in every situation....look for them and you will gain alot of knowledge and wisdom...to figure out life is impossible, but to manipulate is easy.".......aka, unknown asshole profit with his head up his ass.
Contact soon.
CG
Anonymous:
What the hell happened to you whining about how you think RAD kids are manipulators?
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