Hidden Lake Academy - ORS Reports

[TheWho]

5% of 320 pages equals 16 pages.  So there have been 304 pages of incident reports over the past 2 years compared with 3,000 pages over the previous 2 years.
Either way you cut it there is some evidence that the place is coming around.  Maybe they will go under but at least we can see that the incidences have dropped off tremendously and they are starting to put an effort in to reduce them.

Noooooo....no, no, no.  This staement is 100% false.  Inspection reports are what you looked at, Whooter, not INCIDENT reports.  You haven't seen a single incident report.  Stop trying to say inspection reports are incident reports.  It's an obvious lie used as a premise by which anyone can invalidate your conclusion.

What happened to keeping it honest??  You are not honest, by any stretch.

Again,  Guest wrote: "Let me clue you in on something: what is posted on the ORS website for public viewing is only +/- 5% of the total documents about HLA.

The discussion was total documents....  The ORS has 3,000 pages from 2005 to 2007.  The ORS has 320 pages from 2005 thru last Friday.  There is a huge decrease there.

[Troll Control]

Not true.  Tell me, do you have a copy of HLA's case file, 2007-2009?  No, you don't.  So you are talking out of your ass on all topics, including the "number of pages" of ORS reports.

Not very honest, Who.  Your credibility is getting worse and worse.  You called "inspection reports" "incident reports" which is a lie.  You then went on to calculate a figure based on your lie.  You look really weak here.  

Anybody can click the link you provided and read that none of the docs are incident reports.  Try again.

The sole investigation report shows HLA acting illegally in every single random sample case.  Every single sample had from 15% to 100% failure rate for legally required reporting and child safety measures, including offering no staff training, unsafe environment, missing records and on and on and on.  They didn't pass a single investigation item, not ONE.

HLA is a shit-hole, based on the records you provided, Who.  Thanks!

[Troll Control]

Based on record review and staff interview, the agency failed to provide documentation of a
completed service and room, board and watchful oversight plan in six of six files.

Findings include:

Review of resident file #1, file #2, file #3, file #4 and file #5 on December 3, 2008 revealed the
agency failed to provide a service and room, board and watchful oversight plan.

Review of resident file #6 on December 3, 2008 revealed the agency provided documentation of a
service and room, board and watchful plan dated September 23, 2008 however, failed to
document activities by the staff towards the goals, goals and preliminary plans for discharge and
restrictions of communication and visitation.

Interview with staff E on December 3, 2008 at 12:30pm acknowledged the findings.

Wow, failure in 100% of cases to comply with the law.  But, surely, this is an improvement, right?

This was previously cited December 5, 2007.

Ohhhhhh...I guess not.  :heartbreak:

[Troll Control]

Based on record review and staff interview, the agency failed to provide documentation of a
completed service and room, board and watchful oversight plan in six of six files.

Findings include:

Review of resident file #1, file #2, file #3, file #4 and file #5 on December 3, 2008 revealed the
agency failed to provide a service and room, board and watchful oversight plan.

Review of resident file #6 on December 3, 2008 revealed the agency provided documentation of a
service and room, board and watchful plan dated September 23, 2008 however, failed to
document activities by the staff towards the goals, goals and preliminary plans for discharge and
restrictions of communication and visitation.

Interview with staff E on December 3, 2008 at 12:30pm acknowledged the findings.

Wow, failure in 100% of cases to comply with the law.  But, surely, this is an improvement, right?

This was previously cited December 5, 2007.

Ohhhhhh...I guess not.  :heartbreak:

This looks very bad for the "HLA is improving" crowd.  It looks like they keep breaking the same laws over and over.

[Troll Control]

The ORS has 3,000 pages from 2005 to 2007. The ORS has 320 pages from 2005 thru last Friday. There is a huge decrease there.

So what you want people to believe is that from 2005 to 2007 there were 3000 pages but from 2005 to last Friday there were only 320?  Did they retract the other 2,680?

See, Who, this is why you have no credibility.  Ha, ha, ha.  Nice try at covering up for HLA, but you'll have to do better thab that!  This is just a blatant lie and you seem to be getting caught in more than a few of them today.  

Why would you expect people to believe someone who claims ORS retracted over 2500 pages of HLA violations?  You'll have to show some proof of these numbers.

[Anonymous]

Actually, this is looking even worse for the ORS and the state of Georgia, who by their complete negligence in failure to act on their own findings are making themselves legally liable.

[TheWho]

Not true.  Tell me, do you have a copy of HLA's case file, 2007-2009?  No, you don't.  So you are talking out of your ass on all topics, including the "number of pages" of ORS reports.

Not very honest, Who.  Your credibility is getting worse and worse.  You called "inspection reports" "incident reports" which is a lie.  You then went on to calculate a figure based on your lie.  You look really weak here.  

Anybody can click the link you provided and read that none of the docs are incident reports.  Try again.

The sole investigation report shows HLA acting illegally in every single random sample case.  Every single sample had from 15% to 100% failure rate for legally required reporting and child safety measures, including offering no staff training, unsafe environment, missing records and on and on and on.  They didn't pass a single investigation item, not ONE.

HLA is a shit-hole, based on the records you provided, Who.  Thanks!

For the 3rd time I dont have the copy!!  Another poster stated that the ORS reports are a reflection of the total (approx.5%).  I was just doing the math and posting the results.  If you disagree jump on the guest post...

Here it is:
Guest Post

Ha,Ha,Ha  this how thing like this get started.. after awhile I will be quoted as saying "Thewho says there are 320 pages from HLA from 2007 thru 2009".

Based on information posted on fornits I am saying that HLA has improved over the past few years.  That is what the information speaks to.  I have no personal knowledge of this.

[Troll Control]

Actually, this is looking even worse for the ORS and the state of Georgia, who by their complete negligence in failure to act on their own findings are making themselves legally liable.

I completely agree with this.  In my view their negligence is criminal.  Imagine how long ago HLA would have been shuttered for illegal practices if ORS actually did their job.  

The ORS has 3,000 pages from 2005 to 2007. The ORS has 320 pages from 2005 thru last Friday. There is a huge decrease there.

So what you want people to believe is that from 2005 to 2007 there were 3000 pages but from 2005 to last Friday there were only 320? Did they retract the other 2,680?

Whootie stepped in it again I see.  I guess we're now supposed to take TheWho quoting an anonymous guest as "evidence."  That just doesn't pass the smell test.  

"I didn't read the file, but this anonymous guy said 5%, so it's a fact."  You have to do better than this, buddy.  Is this where you're at now?  Quoting anons as gospel?  You admitted you never read the file, so why are you posting as if you know something?  You don't.  BTW, you always used to brag about how rich you were, so why don't you just pony up the fee and get the file?  Afraid of what you might have to admit to if you did?  I think so.

This guy doesn't even put up a fight anymore.

[TheWho]

The ORS has 3,000 pages from 2005 to 2007. The ORS has 320 pages from 2005 thru last Friday. There is a huge decrease there.

So what you want people to believe is that from 2005 to 2007 there were 3000 pages but from 2005 to last Friday there were only 320?  Did they retract the other 2,680?

See, Who, this is why you have no credibility.  Ha, ha, ha.  Nice try at covering up for HLA, but you'll have to do better thab that!  This is just a blatant lie and you seem to be getting caught in more than a few of them today.  

Why would you expect people to believe someone who claims ORS retracted over 2500 pages of HLA violations?  You'll have to show some proof of these numbers.

Ahhhh, I see why everyone is so confused...typo...  meant to write from 2007 to present  (not 2005)

So there has been a significant decrease from 3,000 pages in the 2005 to 2007 time frame down to 320 pages in the 2007 to present time frame...

Hope that clears it up.

[TheWho]

Whootie stepped in it again I see. I guess we're now supposed to take TheWho quoting an anonymous guest as "evidence." That just doesn't pass the smell test.

So what you are saying is if a guest states they were abused in a program we can safely disregard the post?

"I didn't read the file, but this anonymous guy said 5%, so it's a fact." You have to do better than this, buddy. Is this where you're at now? Quoting anons as gospel?

Quoting anons?  So only those people who have a login name can be counted as being truthful?  So anyone who says they went to a program and were abused can be eliminated because they dont have a login name and therefore are not creible...Hmmm

You admitted you never read the file, so why are you posting as if you know something? You don't. BTW, you always used to brag about how rich you were, so why don't you just pony up the fee and get the file? Afraid of what you might have to admit to if you did? I think so.

This guy doesn't even put up a fight anymore.

I dont think you could find a post of me bragging about being rich.  It would be interesting to read it if you found a link.  Oh, wait you are a guest!!!  Ha,Ha,Ha

[Anonymous]

DJ, less arguing with the twit and more OCR'd, redacted (with the staff names UNredacted, if you can) dox.

[Troll Control]

Classic Who.

Before: "You can't believe anyone on Fornits!"

Now:  "My source is an anonymous Fornits poster."

You'll say anything.

DJ, less arguing with the twit and more OCR'd, redacted (with the staff names UNredacted, if you can) dox.

I hear ya.  I'm working on it, but I could also use some help.

[TheWho]

Classic Who.

Before: "You can't believe anyone on Fornits!"

Now:  "My source is an anonymous Fornits poster."

You'll say anything.

DJ, less arguing with the twit and more OCR'd, redacted (with the staff names UNredacted, if you can) dox.

I hear ya.  I'm working on it, but I could also use some help.

I'll take that as you agree the guest post is credible. (I would if I were you).... so with or without the 5% filter... there has been a significate decrease in problems over the last two years at HLA.

[RobertBruce]

Again, what are you basing this on Whooter?

You by your own admission have not seen the report, nor have you seen any incident reports despite your claim to the contrary. How then can you claim there's been an improvement if you have no idea was then or is now?

[TheWho]

Again, what are you basing this on Whooter?

You by your own admission have not seen the report, nor have you seen any incident reports despite your claim to the contrary. How then can you claim there's been an improvement if you have no idea was then or is now?

Bruce, Remember no interaction until you show all of us your guest posts.  Why do you keep avoiding this?  What do you have to hide?  It requires no effort on your part and for someone who claims not to guest post this avoidance is damaging and very curious.  More and More of us are waiting for the big unveiling of your "5 posts".
Let us know when you this will be done.